9800 PRO CRAMPED - NEED NEW CARD $200

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Well, my ATI 9800 Pro is cramping out - after working hard for 3 years. The fan is making weird noises, and I believe it will die out pretty soon.

I want people's advice, on a new card, that will destroy the 9800 at any given angle - and I'm willing to pay $200-$250 CND for this card.

Give me some links, and tell me which card is the best. I could only support AGP cards.
 
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Dude your gonna pay a premium for a agp card $50.00 to $100.00 more for the same card premium over what the pci-express version would cost.
That said if you have amd 754/939/am2 mb for example I would buy a new mb and video card at the same time. Same price or maybe even cheaper and later you can take the video card to a newer system if desired.
If its a much older system and you cant get a pci-express mb for your cpu then your gonna have to pay the premium.

As far as price goes I have no idea how CND compares to US so I could be very off skew here on price :p

My reccomendation is the Radeon X1800 GTO for pci-express
 
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Nope the x800gto for example is about 50% faster then the x1600
the 7800gs is slightly faster then the x800gto.

Btw the 7800 GS is over your budget by about US $75.00 or so.
How does CND compare to US anyway ?

The x800gto or nvidia 7600gs are in your price range however I believe.

Sapphire ATI Radeon X800GTO2 256MB DVI/VGA/TV-out AGP Video Card
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=AT-A8GTO2&c=pw

EVGA 7600 GS 256MB DDR2/AGP-8x/HDTV-Out/DVI-DL (Retail Box)
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=190854&AFFIL=pricewatch&NR=1
 
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Ya, those are very nicely priced.

I'd probably go with the x800gto2 - it looks like a nice card.

CND / US prices is not a huge difference these days - $150 rounds up to about $170, plus taxes, and shipping, I'm looking at spending $200 CND or a little over - but thanks for those sites.

Is ewiz.com a reliable site?

Thanks.
 
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eWiz has an unfortunately high shipping rate - are there good American stores with reasonable shipping. They were going to charge me $50US for that x800gto2.
 
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those prices are nice for a x800 gto2 but there in amarican $ *.* the exchange rate is .907 for 1.00 amarican *.* the shipping will be through the roof and too top it off customs will hold it for a couple days and charge you tax for the item.

so the 160$ video card becomes 230 easy.


this is a shop from calgary alberta. It is very well known and had a good shipping rate.
7600 gs .... 154.95 cnd
http://www.memoryexpress.com/index.php?PageTag=&page=file&memx_menu=EmbedProductDetail.php&DisplayProductID=8789&SID=

or an x1600pro 129.95

http://www.memoryexpress.com/index.php?PageTag=&page=file&memx_menu=EmbedProductDetail.php&DisplayProductID=7255&SID=


the 7600 gs is the faster of the two cards http://xtreview.com/review140.htm



best of luck.
 
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What are your system specs? Processor/speed, memory etc. If you have a fairly modern AGP system you may get a nice performance boost from a new gfx card. If you have major bottlenecks in your computer a new gfx card won't help much :(
 
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P4 2.8GHZ Hyperthreading
512MB Kingston HyperX PC3200 (I'll be getting another 1GB soon)
120GB IDE 7200 Maxtor HD (Getting an SATA 300GB soon)
Asus P4P800 Deluxe Mobo

Those are my main components
 
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Definately get more RAM.
I like the X800GTO as a card to give an old AGP system a last stand.

I have a Pentium 4 w/hyperthreading (Northwood C core) with 1GB of OCZ RAM and an AGP Saphire X800GTO unlocked to 16 pixel pipes. I usually play CS:S when I have time to play. I also occasionally play BF2. Both run decently with nice graphics. I can't use much AA or AF unless I scale down the resolution though.

If you are interested, your CPU should overclock nicely. Do you know if you have the Prescott (90nm) or the Northwood (130nm) core? My Northwood is running at 3.5GHz without any voltage increase.
 
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My buddy went from a 9600 pro to a 7600 GT. The results just weren't worth the price.

I still have a 9800 PRO. You can get a diesel card for CN$250 if you go PCIe. After seeing my freind's comp, I decided to wait as well.

Just save your cash and get a new mobo/ram/vid combo. You won't regret it. At least that way you have an upgrade path.

Seriously, don't get a new vid card you can't move to your new system when you finally upgrade (which will need to be soon the way things are going). You'll be kicking yourself when you get the new system.
 
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Your buddy did something wrong.
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indeed. My old 9700pro is inferior to the 7600gt. the 9800 is more or less a beefed up 9700. the 9600 is inferior to all of them. My buddy just went from a 9600XT (not the lesser pro) to a 7600gs (not the better gt) and saw a nice improvement. The gt is even better.
 
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I respect that you think I should build a new system. But I'm not looking for that, I'm trying to make this system as best as possible. Then i'll be good for another year or two, then I'll buy a new system. I want to keep this one, merely as a server in the future.

So out of ATI or Nvidia - should I get the x800gto, x1600, or 7600 GS or GT?
 
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Your buddy did something wrong.
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indeed. My old 9700pro is inferior to the 7600gt. the 9800 is more or less a beefed up 9700. the 9600 is inferior to all of them. My buddy just went from a 9600XT (not the lesser pro) to a 7600gs (not the better gt) and saw a nice improvement. The gt is even better.

I totally agree. I'm glad someone finally mentioned the 7600GT. If you can find one in your price range CAD, best bang for the AGP buck.
 
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I'm not really sure how the GTO compares, but I have an x800XL AGP card which performs about 2X 9800pro. You can pick those cards up pretty cheap on eBay.

For example:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ATI-AIW-X800XL-...ryZ40158QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Its an All-in wonder.

I'm sure you could find some deals on x800GTO's as well.
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7600gt (remember, not gs) still wins over the 800gto. I think the 800gto is about on par w/ the 7600gs, better on some points but not as good as the 7600gt. plus no sm 3.0 on the 800gto.
 
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