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NMDante   09-08-2006 at 06:34:12 PM
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http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34247



Isn't this the same source that claimed that AMD was having issues with it's 65nm process, as well.

I'll believe it when it is actually released, not because of the Inquirer. They just have too many conflicting reports about the same process.

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lordpope   09-08-2006 at 06:37:24 PM
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yeah the INQ reversed themselves pretty quick

now they are saying that AMD has 65um chips done back in june....


i think the INQ has some good sources and some really bad BS sources....

sometimes they get it right

sometime they are flat wrong

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lordpope   09-08-2006 at 06:41:49 PM
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What i found most interesting is that AMD has a 45um prototype already

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NMDante   09-08-2006 at 06:45:33 PM
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Yeah, I take what the Inquirer writes with more than a few grains of salt.

I usually will hold off any comment about any process, until either an engineering sample is shown working (not a static picture) or when the actual product is released. With an ES, you can at least know for sure that there is a viable, working product in production.

Until then, it's all just rumor and speculation.

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mesarectifier   09-08-2006 at 06:54:13 PM
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Not really news. Noone has even a 65nm ES, therefore I don't really care that they're 'on track' for 45nm, 22nm etc...

Perhaps the Inq is trying to create some hype a-la Core 2? But without an ES pretty much only BM and a few other fanboys are getting excited.

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quux   09-08-2006 at 07:11:10 PM
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good i can get a 90nm and save big time

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lordpope   09-08-2006 at 07:15:30 PM
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Booo




horaayyyyyyy beeerrrrrrrrrrrr

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quantumsheep   09-08-2006 at 07:18:00 PM
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Yeah, I take what the Inquirer writes with more than a few grains of salt.



Word.

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quantumsheep   09-08-2006 at 07:38:28 PM
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a respectable link please????????

I am not an inquirer supporter,at all.most of their articles are crud.
as far as i know amd has only produced a dram test wafer at 45nm,and that was months ago;so it could be true,but if this report could be substantiated ,xbit ,anand,and toms would substantiate it.

i dont doubt that 65nm from amd is slated for "as early as possible ",in the face of core2;and amd's silence is a great suspense builder.
they wont leak any news they cant back up.and when 65 is near all the enthusiast sites will be going crazy .



Word.

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big_cheese   09-08-2006 at 07:50:31 PM
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65um? this reminds me of a homework I did in college once, I set the gate length to 18m instead of 18um, that was funny.

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BaronMatrix   09-08-2006 at 07:56:16 PM
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Not really news. Noone has even a 65nm ES, therefore I don't really care that they're 'on track' for 45nm, 22nm etc...

Perhaps the Inq is trying to create some hype a-la Core 2? But without an ES pretty much only BM and a few other fanboys are getting excited.




Are you harboring some kinds of deep feelings for me or something?

Keep my name out of your mouth. I don't get excited by CPU news, only interested.

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exit2dos   09-08-2006 at 07:59:24 PM
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a respectable link please????????



How about one from the most unbiased, knowledgeable sites on the entire web.

Link :wink:

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npilier   09-08-2006 at 08:21:00 PM
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Not really news. Noone has even a 65nm ES, therefore I don't really care that they're 'on track' for 45nm, 22nm etc...

Perhaps the Inq is trying to create some hype a-la Core 2? But without an ES pretty much only BM and a few other fanboys are getting excited.




Are you harboring some kinds of deep feelings for me or something?

Keep my name out of your mouth. I don't get excited by CPU news, only interested.

Did you know that sometimes you play the funny character well?
lol :P

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npilier   09-08-2006 at 08:23:22 PM
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a respectable link please????????



How about one from the most unbiased, knowledgeable sites on the entire web.

Link :wink:

Oh man, you just made reference to the 'holy grail' of computing technology of 'holy grails' on the net! LOL :lol:

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exit2dos   09-08-2006 at 08:58:09 PM
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I'd like to see what evidence there is for 45nm prototypes being done.

I don't even think Sharikou has said that. :?

Anyways, here's a 65nm AMD Brisbane roadmap for those interested:
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2354

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mesarectifier   09-08-2006 at 09:02:44 PM
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I'd like to see what evidence there is for 45nm prototypes being done.

I don't even think Sharikou has said that. Confused



Hey, c'mon, the Inquirer probably used it's usual 'loads of sources' to get it's information. I'm sure that 'plenty of sources' (or the work experience kid, one of the two) is plenty reliable.

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Aids   09-08-2006 at 09:12:19 PM
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Oh come on, the inquirer uses legit sources and we all know it. Myspace and Facebook are very valued sources for information. :-D

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Aids   09-08-2006 at 09:15:08 PM
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Lmao i hate the inquirer.

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exit2dos   09-08-2006 at 09:24:35 PM
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i havent heard of 45nm proto types,but ,they produced 45nm dram 3 months after intel did,and according to daily tech or anand the process was like .07 larger in size than intels.

the amd die is larger at the same process,and that in part ,due to the mem controller.


The SRAM both companies produced are very simple designs when compared to a CPU.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2734&p=2



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if dram tests were successful it would be feasable to have a working 45nm prototype as of now.
wouldnt it?


No, there are a variety of different changes and problem when scaling down to this level. There is an excellent thread by JumpingJack on 65nm here:
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/AMD-65-nm-track-ftopict199210.html

45nm isn't even on AMD's roadmap until 2008.

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AMD also announced that its transition to 45nm technology is accelerating. AMD’s plan is to begin initial volume production of 45nm 18 months after initial 65nm production, currently anticipated to be in the mid-2008 time frame.


http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~109409,00.html

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ltcommander_data   09-13-2006 at 01:15:31 AM
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http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34282

Hopefully, nobody got really excited about 65nm AMD chips in one month, because AMD is telling The Inquirer to change their story:

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"AMD is committed to shipping 65nm products to customers by the end of the year [2006]. Our plans are to be substantially converted to 65nm by mid 2007."

Jan Gutter, PR manager, AMD(EMEA)


This is again back to the original 65nm introduction schedule that we've all known. (ie 65nm chips launching in December. You can say it may be November, but it's not that likely otherwise they'd market it as a strong Q4 introduction rather than a before the year is out one.)

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gOJDO   09-13-2006 at 02:05:32 PM
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LordDope is using AMD(Abusive Morons Drugs). Don't flame him about the FUD-y thread, it is not his fault.

Also I found this image, very educative(credits goes to Jake Barnes):
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/JakeBarnes/trolls2.jpg

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old_times   09-13-2006 at 05:39:29 PM
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m+um= mum; a flower or a parental figure. :P :P :P



:lol:
:lol: :lol:
ROLF!!!

µ (u) ->micro
n->nano

Maybe AMD is beefing up!

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will14   09-13-2006 at 06:59:22 PM
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Oh come on, the inquirer uses legit sources and we all know it. Myspace and Facebook are very valued sources for information. :-D



I thought those were escort sites.
I never understood how none of the girls charged me though.
:P

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Aids   09-14-2006 at 02:08:52 AM
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Hahahaha
You sly devil.
On a serious note, that troll picture was very informative. Everyone should print it out and post it on a window in a store so everyone can see.

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Mike995   09-14-2006 at 02:43:19 AM
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I personally couldnt care less about amds over one year behind intel in processor lithography size. Its not going to change the performance of these processors, and most likely the silicon will be a little less stable then our current 90nm processors.

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Dade_0182   09-14-2006 at 07:02:49 AM
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Are you always this negative???

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Mike995   09-19-2006 at 01:09:35 AM
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If you must know, yes most of the time I am.

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Dade_0182   09-19-2006 at 07:18:01 AM
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It's the best policy. (just had to :wink: )

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Dade_0182   09-19-2006 at 07:29:05 AM
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The only thing he'll adopt is 9nm or some AMD fanboy kid... :wink:

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gOJDO   09-19-2006 at 10:45:35 AM
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If we could just teach Baron to adopt it. :)


LOL! I like your sence of humor Jack :)

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