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Robert Redelmeier wrote:
> T. Sean Weintz <strap@hanh-ct.org> wrote:
>> Either the machine is locked and odesn't allow installs,
>> or he simply does not want to leave evidence that he was
>> running the program on the PC - either of which would seem
>> to indicate he is doing something he should not be doing.
>
> Ah, but the usual reason for locking machines is to
> reduce maintenance on fragile MS-Windows systems.
Well, actually the usual reason is to keep users from writing into the
system area. This effectively prevents software installation because
software developers insist on writing to the system areas even when they
have no legitimate need to do so. If you are installing an application on
a default-configured XP or Server 2K3 system from a nonprivileged account,
and it won't install, think very hard about whether you want to let that
developer make changes to the system files before you log in as
administrator to install.
Unix systems are locked down in the same manner for the same reason, however
Unix has had that security model from the start and so the developers have
learned the hard way that there are things that their user applications
will not be allowed to do, and so application installation is not a
problem.
> And to
> facilitate recovery by data-free reimaging.
>
> To answer part of the OP's question, s/he could put Simon
> Tatham's `putty.exe` on a USB stick. I really cannot see
> what harm running it (a terminal emulator) would cause.
>
>> BTW, email snooping is not neccessarily a bad thing. And of
>> course on an employers machine one has no right to expect
>> that it won't be snooped.
>
> I do not believe this is true in the EU, where email
> privacy is supposed to be guaranteed.
I'm curious as to the specific legislation--I haven't been able to find
anything that says that employers in the EU cannot monitor their employees
mail--I have found some references to specific legislation in specific
member countries but nothing that would apply to the EU as a whole.
I'm not disputing you, I would just like to read the legislation.
>> And in fact for public companies, Sarbanes-Oxley REQUIRES
>> them to keep an unaltered arcvhive of every email you send
>> or recieve at your job.
>
> IANAL SOx requires no such thing. It requires that any
> public-trading relevant emails be retained for specified
> periods. Some lazy companies implement it by archiving
> everything. Dangerous for later discovery. My divisiion has
> been told that we are not material for SOx purposes, but need
> to retain anything that might be ourselves. Some companies
> may also run afoul of EU privacy law if they retain/archive
> emails of EU residents that are not from US employees.
>
>> Even in the USA. If I loan someone my car to drive to the
>> store, and they drive accross country instead, you can sure
>> as hell bet they will be arrested for car theft. Even if
>
> Not in the USA. Theft is the taking without authorization.
> Keep overlong or unauthorized use are very different offenses,
> if they exist at all. Some states have recently had to
> add laws to cover car renters who kept the cars past due.
>
> -- Robert
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