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Anonymous
August 22, 2005 11:28:48 AM

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We have an Epson R300 printer used for printing of photo's here at
work. They have asked me to see about purchasing a Laser Color to
replace this printer. My question is, in order to save money and have
good quality photo printing, what format of printers is best.
I realize that laser is for volume color printing and ink jet is for
better resolution. Where does dye sub fall into in this scenario.
Thanks in advance.

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Anonymous
August 22, 2005 10:03:54 PM

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"wizof103" <wizof103@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
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> We have an Epson R300 printer used for printing of photo's here at
> work. They have asked me to see about purchasing a Laser Color to
> replace this printer. My question is, in order to save money and have
> good quality photo printing, what format of printers is best.
> I realize that laser is for volume color printing and ink jet is for
> better resolution. Where does dye sub fall into in this scenario.
> Thanks in advance.

Dye sub is very expensive. Don't fall for the high number resolution of
inkjets. Considering the number of dots needed to produce 1 colour it
doesn't match up. Final print resolution even on a fuji frontier is 300dpi.

Dye subs are expensive to buy and run. There are varying opinions on
quality. The ones you get such as those kodak instaprint kiosks in boots is
that they are inferior to proper minilab prints.
August 23, 2005 12:55:33 PM

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In message <1124720928.802354.205180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
wizof103 <wizof103@bellatlantic.net> writes
>We have an Epson R300 printer used for printing of photo's here at
>work. They have asked me to see about purchasing a Laser Color to
>replace this printer. My question is, in order to save money and have
>good quality photo printing, what format of printers is best.
>I realize that laser is for volume color printing and ink jet is for
>better resolution. Where does dye sub fall into in this scenario.
>Thanks in advance.
>
How much printing are you doing, and what are the photos being used for?

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August 23, 2005 1:19:13 PM

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wizof103 wrote:
> We have an Epson R300 printer used for printing of photo's here at
> work. They have asked me to see about purchasing a Laser Color to
> replace this printer. My question is, in order to save money and have
> good quality photo printing, what format of printers is best.
> I realize that laser is for volume color printing and ink jet is for
> better resolution. Where does dye sub fall into in this scenario.
> Thanks in advance.
>
Kodak have a relatively new dye-sub, the 1400 priced at around US$500.
It can do 12 x 8 inch or 10 x 8 prints, photo quality is supposed to be
pretty good.

The upsides are:
Fixed cost - you know exactly how much each print costs in consumables -
and that cost is comparable to inkjets - not a lot more.
Water and mar resistant prints - not achievable with dye inkjet on
papers that provide archival properties.
Probably much better archival properties than low end dye subs, which
have extremely poor fade resistance. Kodak figures for longevity should
be ignored as their test methodology is different - and far less severe
than the methodolgy used by almost every other maker. But, similar
process dye-sub prints from Kodak have rated 26 years, which isn't too bad.
Kodak claim advantages because of continuous tone printing, but this
isn't really an issue as the dots from any recent quality inkjet photo
printer are invisible to the naked eye anyway.
Reasonable speed - a minute and a half per print.
Much better photo quality than a laser printer.
No ink clogs.

Downsides are:
You can't feed small (ie 6x4s) individually, but you could print 4 6x4s
on one 12x8 sheet, and cut them.
Useless for document printing.
Only prints on OEM gloss/semigloss Kodak dye-sub paper.
About 300 dpi, but this won't be as sharp or resolve as much fine detail
as 300dpi from a light-jet or ink-jet - not that most people would notice.
Reduced colour gamut - 3 colour process - compared to higher end ink jet.
Dust can be an issue.
The machine costs about the same as an epson R1800, which will do 13"
width prints which have better archival quality, are also water
resistant, and can print documents as well as photos on a wide range of
media.

I haven't seen one of these in action yet. They seem an ideal
alternative to an inkjet for some circumstances and if only photo
printing is required.

The answer to your question isn't easy - it depends very much on what
you plan to print and your expectation for print quality, print volume
and frequency.
August 23, 2005 1:25:39 PM

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ian lincoln wrote:

> Dye sub is very expensive. Don't fall for the high number resolution of
> inkjets. Considering the number of dots needed to produce 1 colour it
> doesn't match up. Final print resolution even on a fuji frontier is 300dpi.
>
> Dye subs are expensive to buy and run. There are varying opinions on
> quality. The ones you get such as those kodak instaprint kiosks in boots is
> that they are inferior to proper minilab prints.
>
>
See my other post - dye-subs are not necessarily that expensive now.

And although inkjets will not in reality resolve the "headline" figure
printed on the box or brochure (4880/5660 dpi etc), I can assure you
that an epson r800 or 1800 will clearly resolve over 600dpi - more than
twice the resolution of a typical light-jet set at around 300dpi.
Finding practical use for such high resolution is another matter. You
can see the difference between 300dpi and 600dpi if you peer very
closely, but I await an affordable 30mp camera to make use of this on an
A4 sized print.
August 23, 2005 3:46:26 PM

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wizof103 wrote:

> We have an Epson R300 printer used for printing of photo's here at
> work. They have asked me to see about purchasing a Laser Color to
> replace this printer. My question is, in order to save money and have
> good quality photo printing, what format of printers is best.
> I realize that laser is for volume color printing and ink jet is for
> better resolution. Where does dye sub fall into in this scenario.
> Thanks in advance.
>
Someone posted here recently that Epson have released a new Laser
printer. have you checked that out?
!