Anybody using refills for Canon i9900?

[Tom]

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I've had my i9900 for over a year now and recently I've been printing a lot
more of those 13 X 19 posters so the ink costs are starting get expensive. So
far I've only used Canon OEM inks but I'd like to switch to refills to save
some money. I realize that the BCI-6 cartridges are among the easiest to
refill and there are many companies selling refill kits, but because the i9900
uses a different print head with more nozzles and smaller droplets, I'm more
worried about clogging than I would be with a lower-end printer.

Has anybody with an i9900 had any experience (positive or negative) with any
refill kits?

I would only refilling the 6 main colors; the red and green get used so
little that it doesn't make sense to refill them. I've been looking through
all the archived posts on here and so far my list of choices is as follows:

inksupply.com - mostly positive opinions, a 6-color kit with empty cartridges
is $72.45
hobbicolors.com - few opinions, a kit costs $17 but only includes a single
syringe that you have to rinse; smells like trouble
inkgrabber.com or inkjetmaddness.com - no refills; full cartridges only. Price
is either $15 or $20 for a six-pack
alotofthings.com - useless since they won't ship to Canada
weink.com - mostly positive opinions but $200 is outrageous!
inkjetsaver.com - low cost $27 plus $18 for empty cartridges, but I found one
article on here that called this a "disaster"
inkjetgoodies.com - few opinions, a kit costs $71.64
printerfillingstation.com - few opinions, an 8-color kit costs $60 but it
doesn't come with empty cartridges
inkproducts.com - few opinions, a kit costs $64.95
atlanticinkjet.com - apparently they use (or did use) the highly acclaimed
Formulabs ink, a 6-color kit with empty cartridges would be $22+22+18=$62 CAD

Has anybody used any of the above with an i9900?

--Tom.

 

[zakezuke]

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> weink.com - mostly positive opinions but $200 is outrageous!

Keep in mind that the $200 fee includes alot of stuff and 135ml bottles
of ink. The inksupply kit has 1/2 the ink for $72.45 only has 2oz of
ink per color. To be a fair contest add the cost of the bulk ink
(45.95) for a total of $118.40 for 4oz/118ml of ink. And it also
includes a bonus bottle of one color... where the equlivent at
inksupply.com would be $8.00.. so $126.40.

Strickly speaking the bulk 4oz mis ink @ $8.00 is less than the $10.35
price for 135ml of weink.com ink.

Why consider spending $73.60 extra (+$12.27/tank)? Well I didn't but
that doesn't mean there are not things to consider. I have no direct
experence with their ink so I can't speek on that issue, but their kit
includes sponge free tanks. Key advantage is the fact that they will
in all likelyhood last the lifetime on the printer and hold more ink.
The disadvantage is the fact that you must vacuum fill which takes
longer than the sponge type and more prone to foaming in my experence.
The sponge type do have a limited lifespan, and tend to cost $5ish a
pop. I picked the sponge type because I feel they are easier to
refill.

I don't represent either company... I only evaulated these products in
the past.

 

[BURT]

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Tom - I've been refilling my i960 (six color) printer with MIS inks and been
very happy with them. I've used them for almost a year now and had no
clogs. The color match is quite good. I'm in touch with several very
discerning people who are using Formulabs ink from Alotofthings, but I do
understand that they don't ship to Canada. One participant, Stevelee,
posted his successful use of Hobbicolors inks on this NG and I've mentioned
that in my previous posts.

I'd suggest that you go onto Neil Slade's site and read his info and then
sign into the Nifty-Stuff Forum and follow the threads that are of interest
to you. You can ask the same question you posed here and see if you get a
response. Most of the people on that Forum use Canon printers and most also
refill their carts. In a very short time that forum has grown to over 500
participants. There are very helpful people on both this NG and the Nifty
forum, but the forum delves into more detailed issues on refilling carts.

You may have noticed that we have one individual who has no experience with
aftermarket inks but rants and warns people that aftermarket inks are no
good and will clog your printer. On this NG you can read posts from
Taliesyn, drc023, Frank, Tony, Stevelee, Jon O'brien, Zakezuke, and several
others who have had good experience with aftermarket inks. The Nifty Forum
has no such obnoxious behaviour.
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/

http://www.neilslade.com/papers/inkjetstuff.html


"Tom" <tom8192@hotmail.com> wrote in message
newscROe.296330$5V4.128299@pd7tw3no...
> I've had my i9900 for over a year now and recently I've been printing a
> lot
> more of those 13 X 19 posters so the ink costs are starting get expensive.
> So
> far I've only used Canon OEM inks but I'd like to switch to refills to
> save
> some money. I realize that the BCI-6 cartridges are among the easiest to
> refill and there are many companies selling refill kits, but because the
> i9900
> uses a different print head with more nozzles and smaller droplets, I'm
> more
> worried about clogging than I would be with a lower-end printer.
>
> Has anybody with an i9900 had any experience (positive or negative) with
> any
> refill kits?
>
> I would only refilling the 6 main colors; the red and green get used so
> little that it doesn't make sense to refill them. I've been looking
> through
> all the archived posts on here and so far my list of choices is as
> follows:
>
> inksupply.com - mostly positive opinions, a 6-color kit with empty
> cartridges
> is $72.45
> hobbicolors.com - few opinions, a kit costs $17 but only includes a single
> syringe that you have to rinse; smells like trouble
> inkgrabber.com or inkjetmaddness.com - no refills; full cartridges only.
> Price
> is either $15 or $20 for a six-pack
> alotofthings.com - useless since they won't ship to Canada
> weink.com - mostly positive opinions but $200 is outrageous!
> inkjetsaver.com - low cost $27 plus $18 for empty cartridges, but I found
> one
> article on here that called this a "disaster"
> inkjetgoodies.com - few opinions, a kit costs $71.64
> printerfillingstation.com - few opinions, an 8-color kit costs $60 but it
> doesn't come with empty cartridges
> inkproducts.com - few opinions, a kit costs $64.95
> atlanticinkjet.com - apparently they use (or did use) the highly acclaimed
> Formulabs ink, a 6-color kit with empty cartridges would be $22+22+18=$62
> CAD
>
> Has anybody used any of the above with an i9900?
>
> --Tom.
>

 

[BURT]

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I went onto the Nifty Forum and checked out some posts by Grandad35. He
refills his carts with Formulabs inks for his i9900 and also has developed
custom profiles for Formulabs inks and several papers. The profiles are
available to be downloaded for personal use only from the Forum. He can
also answer any questions you might have about refilling for this printer.

Do you have a friend in the US who can order Formulabs inks for you and
reship them to Canada? Probably less costly to just order MIS inks to have
shipped directly. You might also look through the posts and email Taliesyn
who lives in Canada to see what inks he is using. He had wanted to order
Formulabs inks as well.

"Tom" <tom8192@hotmail.com> wrote in message
newscROe.296330$5V4.128299@pd7tw3no...
> I've had my i9900 for over a year now and recently I've been printing a
> lot
> more of those 13 X 19 posters so the ink costs are starting get expensive.
> So
> far I've only used Canon OEM inks but I'd like to switch to refills to
> save
> some money. I realize that the BCI-6 cartridges are among the easiest to
> refill and there are many companies selling refill kits, but because the
> i9900
> uses a different print head with more nozzles and smaller droplets, I'm
> more
> worried about clogging than I would be with a lower-end printer.
>
> Has anybody with an i9900 had any experience (positive or negative) with
> any
> refill kits?
>
> I would only refilling the 6 main colors; the red and green get used so
> little that it doesn't make sense to refill them. I've been looking
> through
> all the archived posts on here and so far my list of choices is as
> follows:
>
> inksupply.com - mostly positive opinions, a 6-color kit with empty
> cartridges
> is $72.45
> hobbicolors.com - few opinions, a kit costs $17 but only includes a single
> syringe that you have to rinse; smells like trouble
> inkgrabber.com or inkjetmaddness.com - no refills; full cartridges only.
> Price
> is either $15 or $20 for a six-pack
> alotofthings.com - useless since they won't ship to Canada
> weink.com - mostly positive opinions but $200 is outrageous!
> inkjetsaver.com - low cost $27 plus $18 for empty cartridges, but I found
> one
> article on here that called this a "disaster"
> inkjetgoodies.com - few opinions, a kit costs $71.64
> printerfillingstation.com - few opinions, an 8-color kit costs $60 but it
> doesn't come with empty cartridges
> inkproducts.com - few opinions, a kit costs $64.95
> atlanticinkjet.com - apparently they use (or did use) the highly acclaimed
> Formulabs ink, a 6-color kit with empty cartridges would be $22+22+18=$62
> CAD
>
> Has anybody used any of the above with an i9900?
>
> --Tom.
>

 

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In article <pcROe.296330$5V4.128299@pd7tw3no>, tom8192@hotmail.com (Tom)
wrote:

> Has anybody with an i9900 had any experience (positive or negative)
> with any refill kits?

Measekite note: he's looking for people with *experience*, not
unsupported, prejudicial opinions.

Jon.

 

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I run an i9100 which is the 6-color equivalent of the i9900 or the big
brother (wide carriage version) of the i960. I have run almost 16
ounces of each color using the weink continuous feed with the weink
inks over the last year or so with no problems. The weink prices are
about $5 per 16 oz more than the others, or a total of $30 for an
awful lot of ink and no problems. You pays your money and you takes
your choice.

Jim


On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 02:46:45 GMT, tom8192@hotmail.com (Tom) wrote:

>I've had my i9900 for over a year now and recently I've been printing a lot
>more of those 13 X 19 posters so the ink costs are starting get expensive. So
>far I've only used Canon OEM inks but I'd like to switch to refills to save
>some money. I realize that the BCI-6 cartridges are among the easiest to
>refill and there are many companies selling refill kits, but because the i9900
>uses a different print head with more nozzles and smaller droplets, I'm more
>worried about clogging than I would be with a lower-end printer.
>
>Has anybody with an i9900 had any experience (positive or negative) with any
>refill kits?
>
>I would only refilling the 6 main colors; the red and green get used so
>little that it doesn't make sense to refill them. I've been looking through
>all the archived posts on here and so far my list of choices is as follows:
>
>inksupply.com - mostly positive opinions, a 6-color kit with empty cartridges
>is $72.45
>hobbicolors.com - few opinions, a kit costs $17 but only includes a single
>syringe that you have to rinse; smells like trouble
>inkgrabber.com or inkjetmaddness.com - no refills; full cartridges only. Price
>is either $15 or $20 for a six-pack
>alotofthings.com - useless since they won't ship to Canada
>weink.com - mostly positive opinions but $200 is outrageous!
>inkjetsaver.com - low cost $27 plus $18 for empty cartridges, but I found one
>article on here that called this a "disaster"
>inkjetgoodies.com - few opinions, a kit costs $71.64
>printerfillingstation.com - few opinions, an 8-color kit costs $60 but it
>doesn't come with empty cartridges
>inkproducts.com - few opinions, a kit costs $64.95
>atlanticinkjet.com - apparently they use (or did use) the highly acclaimed
>Formulabs ink, a 6-color kit with empty cartridges would be $22+22+18=$62 CAD
>
>Has anybody used any of the above with an i9900?
>
>--Tom.

 

[zakezuke]

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> too bad there are no reliable venders selling branded ink. I know that canon is
> overpriced and really wish there was an alternative. i spent a lot of time researching
> the problem and unfortunately came up empty handed

There are plenty of reliable venders. I'll agree that most venders
don't disclose what they are using... but neither does Canon.

Your main arguments that you repeat over and over again are as follows

1. "There are no brands"
This is a lie. I've done very little research and know of at least two
"brands". Print-rite who I bought dot matrix ribbons from in the past.
Media Street who are a manufacturer and distributer of inks and
papers. I know for a fact that their products can be bought at
Hassleblads. You've been told this before as well as others I don't
know off the top of my head. Hell even IMS I would call a brand
available at Costco.

2. "The don't disclose what they are giving you"
Some do.

3. "They are unprofessional"
If you don't like cottage industry don't support it. Plenty of options
to choose from whether you want to support monks, dikes on bikes, small
business or huge business.

4. "Venders use to give advice on this forum"
This is true, and hosted a faq. But the only person who had a problem
with this arangement that had been going on for 10 years was you.

5. "You risk your printhead"
This is true... you do. But given the cost of OEM inks vs the risk to
a print head so long as you make it through two refills you have saved
money. The lifespan of the printhead is so limited anyway according to
canon's numbers. What i'd reccomend is buying alot of it and getting
your self a new cheep printer and actually measuring out how different
media affects the printhead life.

6. "Don't listen to the aftermarket church"
Rather then the only member of the Church of the OEM who continualy
floods this group with spam? Why not change this, don't listen to
fanatics, your self included.

You only have two really valid points... with OEM you have some
assurance it's compatable with your printer and anything else is an
option question as to it's long term effects. This is an important
thing to point out to people seeking advice you would not be wrong in
doing so. But you do it over and over again... posting again and again
basicly the same message, the same statements. This is the very thesis
of spam... you are a spammer for Canon.

But the real question is why do you care so much what people use? What
affect does it have on you personaly? I like to share information with
others because this is something I enjoy... and I benifit from other's
who also share information. I have no loyality to any church of
thought regarding the subject, only to rational. I made the choice to
use aftermarket ink... in fact you were the person who's arguments
helped make my final choice. It seems to me if there is a force at
work trying to hard to make me choose something without question that
by all rights I had to question that... and if as you say the most
that you risk is a printhead that risk is small and the benifit
outweighs it.

In the end... I wish you should respect the choices they make... let
them deside what is best for them. At end game that's all that
matters. I do wish Canon would stop employing people to flood
discussion boards and blogs. I dislike spammers as does most the
civilized world.

The reason problem is what you are shown and what you know you ignore,
and what you don't know you invent.

 

[frank]

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Tom wrote:
> I've had my i9900 for over a year now and recently I've been printing a lot
> more of those 13 X 19 posters so the ink costs are starting get expensive. So
> far I've only used Canon OEM inks but I'd like to switch to refills to save
> some money. I realize that the BCI-6 cartridges are among the easiest to
> refill and there are many companies selling refill kits, but because the i9900
> uses a different print head with more nozzles and smaller droplets, I'm more
> worried about clogging than I would be with a lower-end printer.
>
> Has anybody with an i9900 had any experience (positive or negative) with any
> refill kits?
>
> I would only refilling the 6 main colors; the red and green get used so
> little that it doesn't make sense to refill them. I've been looking through
> all the archived posts on here and so far my list of choices is as follows:
>
> inksupply.com - mostly positive opinions, a 6-color kit with empty cartridges
> is $72.45
> hobbicolors.com - few opinions, a kit costs $17 but only includes a single
> syringe that you have to rinse; smells like trouble
> inkgrabber.com or inkjetmaddness.com - no refills; full cartridges only. Price
> is either $15 or $20 for a six-pack
> alotofthings.com - useless since they won't ship to Canada
> weink.com - mostly positive opinions but $200 is outrageous!
> inkjetsaver.com - low cost $27 plus $18 for empty cartridges, but I found one
> article on here that called this a "disaster"
> inkjetgoodies.com - few opinions, a kit costs $71.64
> printerfillingstation.com - few opinions, an 8-color kit costs $60 but it
> doesn't come with empty cartridges
> inkproducts.com - few opinions, a kit costs $64.95
> atlanticinkjet.com - apparently they use (or did use) the highly acclaimed
> Formulabs ink, a 6-color kit with empty cartridges would be $22+22+18=$62 CAD
>
> Has anybody used any of the above with an i9900?
>
> --Tom.
>
I've used nothing but after market carts in my i9900 after the oem were
all used up. I have never had a head clog nor have I (or my clients)
noticed any color difference at all.
You have to nuts to continue to use oem inks.
Frank

 

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I have used Hobbicolors refill kit for my ip8500, extremely happy so far.
The kit came with 8 3rd party BCI-6 cartridges using plastic screws to seal.
It works effortlessly. Just screw and unscrew. No tricks and no gimmick and
cheap as supposed to. In my opinion those cartridges are the best you can
get so cheaply. The ink is also fantastic. Colors are so close to OEM that
my wife can not tell which is which without staring at the prints back and
forth for a minute. Still some of the prints there are hardly any difference
at all. I have no problems for 8 moths already. I notice that I rarely need to
run clean cycles. That's a sign of trouble free operation.

You are right about getting only one syringe from their refill kit. But if
you buy the kit you will find that the syringe they provide is probably the
best you can get. It's made in Germany. They said because the syringe uses no
rubber it will last just about forever. Remember ink will eat the rubber rather
quickly. If you use separate syringes and don't rinse them you will find them
stuck in the syringe within a few months. You have to buy another set again.
I found it more practical to use one that will last long although have to rinse
between refills. It may smell like trouble to you. But it actually keeps you
out of trouble from those cheap (should be free) syringes made in China.

Talking about weink, they used to be a cheapy 2 years ago. For really no reason
they skyrocketed their prices more than doubled. They are worse than Canon in
getting your money for ink.

Formulabs is a popular brand name and for that reason will cost you more.
There are many good reports about Formulabs but there are also a few bad ones
too. Refilling itself can cause some problems if you do not have some basic
knowledge to keep your printers from getting into problems. Formulabs should
be fine except a little pricey although not as crazy as weink.

Steve

Tom wrote:

> I've had my i9900 for over a year now and recently I've been printing a lot
> more of those 13 X 19 posters so the ink costs are starting get expensive. So
> far I've only used Canon OEM inks but I'd like to switch to refills to save
> some money. I realize that the BCI-6 cartridges are among the easiest to
> refill and there are many companies selling refill kits, but because the i9900
> uses a different print head with more nozzles and smaller droplets, I'm more
> worried about clogging than I would be with a lower-end printer.
>
> Has anybody with an i9900 had any experience (positive or negative) with any
> refill kits?
>
> I would only refilling the 6 main colors; the red and green get used so
> little that it doesn't make sense to refill them. I've been looking through
> all the archived posts on here and so far my list of choices is as follows:
>
> inksupply.com - mostly positive opinions, a 6-color kit with empty cartridges
> is $72.45
> hobbicolors.com - few opinions, a kit costs $17 but only includes a single
> syringe that you have to rinse; smells like trouble
> inkgrabber.com or inkjetmaddness.com - no refills; full cartridges only. Price
> is either $15 or $20 for a six-pack
> alotofthings.com - useless since they won't ship to Canada
> weink.com - mostly positive opinions but $200 is outrageous!
> inkjetsaver.com - low cost $27 plus $18 for empty cartridges, but I found one
> article on here that called this a "disaster"
> inkjetgoodies.com - few opinions, a kit costs $71.64
> printerfillingstation.com - few opinions, an 8-color kit costs $60 but it
> doesn't come with empty cartridges
> inkproducts.com - few opinions, a kit costs $64.95
> atlanticinkjet.com - apparently they use (or did use) the highly acclaimed
> Formulabs ink, a 6-color kit with empty cartridges would be $22+22+18=$62 CAD
>
> Has anybody used any of the above with an i9900?
>
> --Tom.
>

 

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Tom wrote:

>I've had my i9900 for over a year now and recently I've been printing a lot
>more of those 13 X 19 posters so the ink costs are starting get expensive. So
>far I've only used Canon OEM inks
>

REAL SMART

>but I'd like to switch to refills to save
>some money.
>

RISKING A PRINTHEAD

>I realize that the BCI-6 cartridges are among the easiest to
>refill and there are many companies selling refill kits, but because the i9900
>uses a different print head with more nozzles and smaller droplets, I'm more
>worried about clogging
>

YOU CERTAINLY SHOULD BE

>than I would be with a lower-end printer.
>
>Has anybody with an i9900 had any experience (positive or negative) with any
>refill kits?
>
>

IF YOU DARE TAKE A CHANCE ONLY USE NAME BRAND INK. YOU WILL MOST LIKELY
NOT GET A GOOD VENDOR WHO WILL SELL YOU THAT BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT TO
DISCLOSE WHAT THEY SELL YOU.

>I would only refilling the 6 main colors; the red and green get used so
>little that it doesn't make sense to refill them. I've been looking through
>all the archived posts on here and so far my list of choices is as follows:
>
>inksupply.com - mostly positive opinions, a 6-color kit with empty cartridges
>is $72.45
>hobbicolors.com - few opinions, a kit costs $17 but only includes a single
>syringe that you have to rinse; smells like trouble
>inkgrabber.com or inkjetmaddness.com - no refills; full cartridges only. Price
>is either $15 or $20 for a six-pack
>alotofthings.com - useless since they won't ship to Canada
>
>
I FOUND THEM TO BE UNPROFESSIONAL

>weSTink.com - mostly positive opinions but $200 is outrageous!
>
>
I DO NOT TRUST THEM

>inkjetsaver.com - low cost $27 plus $18 for empty cartridges, but I found one
>article on here that called this a "disaster"
>inkjetgoodies.com - few opinions, a kit costs $71.64
>printerfillingstation.com - few opinions, an 8-color kit costs $60 but it
>doesn't come with empty cartridges
>inkproducts.com - few opinions, a kit costs $64.95
>atlanticinkjet.com - apparently they use (or did use) the highly acclaimed
>Formulabs ink, a 6-color kit with empty cartridges would be $22+22+18=$62 CAD
>
>
FORMULABS IS THE ONLY BRANDED INK BUT THEY WILL NOT SELL YOU THE BRANDED
VERSION IN SMALL QUANTITIES. EVEN THEY HAD TROUBLE. THEY CHANGED THE
MAGENTA AND DID NOT TELL THEIR VENDORS WHO RESOLD WITHOUT TESTING AND
CAUSE PROBLEMS FOR MANY PEOPLE.

STILL THEY ARE THE ONLY COMPANY THAT I KNOW OF. NONE OF THE VENDORS YOU
MENTIONED MEET WHAT I CALL THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT A VENDOR SHOULD.

TOO BAD FORMULABS DOES NOT SELL PREFILLED CARTS TO ALL OF THE BIG BOX
STORES UNDER THE FORMULABS OR SENSINENT NAME.

>Has anybody used any of the above with an i9900?
>
>--Tom.
>
>
>

 

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UP UR WHOLE WID A HURSHE BAR

Jon O'Brien wrote:

>In article <pcROe.296330$5V4.128299@pd7tw3no>, tom8192@hotmail.com (Tom)
>wrote:
>
>
>
>>Has anybody with an i9900 had any experience (positive or negative)
>>with any refill kits?
>>
>>
>
>Measekite note: he's looking for people with *experience*, not
>unsupported, prejudicial opinions.
>
>Jon.
>
>

 

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WESTINK USED TO GIVE ADVICE ON THIS NG AND FINALLY I FORCED HIM TO
DISCLOSE THAT HE IS A VENDOR. HE ADMITTED THAT HIS ONLY PURPOSE FOR
GIVING ADVICE WAS TO MAKE MONEY. WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THE LIAR FOR A
WHILE.

ALSO, HE SELLS CARTS FOR $2.00 LESS THAN YOU CAN GET CANON FOR AT COSTCO.

zakezuke wrote:

>> weink.com - mostly positive opinions but $200 is outrageous!
>>
>>
>
>Keep in mind that the $200 fee includes alot of stuff and 135ml bottles
>of ink. The inksupply kit has 1/2 the ink for $72.45 only has 2oz of
>ink per color. To be a fair contest add the cost of the bulk ink
>(45.95) for a total of $118.40 for 4oz/118ml of ink. And it also
>includes a bonus bottle of one color... where the equlivent at
>inksupply.com would be $8.00.. so $126.40.
>
>Strickly speaking the bulk 4oz mis ink @ $8.00 is less than the $10.35
>price for 135ml of weink.com ink.
>
>Why consider spending $73.60 extra (+$12.27/tank)? Well I didn't but
>that doesn't mean there are not things to consider. I have no direct
>experence with their ink so I can't speek on that issue, but their kit
>includes sponge free tanks. Key advantage is the fact that they will
>in all likelyhood last the lifetime on the printer and hold more ink.
>The disadvantage is the fact that you must vacuum fill which takes
>longer than the sponge type and more prone to foaming in my experence.
> The sponge type do have a limited lifespan, and tend to cost $5ish a
>pop. I picked the sponge type because I feel they are easier to
>refill.
>
>I don't represent either company... I only evaulated these products in
>the past.
>
>
>

 

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TOO BAD THERE ARE NO RELIABLE VENDORS SELLING BRANDED INK. I KNOW THAT
CANON IS OVERPRICED AND REALLY WISH THERE WAS AN ALTERNATIVE. I SPENT A
LOT OF TIME RESEARCHING THE PROBLEM AND UNFORTUNATELY CAME UP EMPTY HANDED.

Burt wrote:

>I went onto the Nifty Forum and checked out some posts by Grandad35. He
>refills his carts with Formulabs inks for his i9900 and also has developed
>custom profiles for Formulabs inks and several papers. The profiles are
>available to be downloaded for personal use only from the Forum. He can
>also answer any questions you might have about refilling for this printer.
>
>Do you have a friend in the US who can order Formulabs inks for you and
>reship them to Canada? Probably less costly to just order MIS inks to have
>shipped directly. You might also look through the posts and email Taliesyn
>who lives in Canada to see what inks he is using. He had wanted to order
>Formulabs inks as well.
>
>"Tom" <tom8192@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>newscROe.296330$5V4.128299@pd7tw3no...
>
>
>>I've had my i9900 for over a year now and recently I've been printing a
>>lot
>>more of those 13 X 19 posters so the ink costs are starting get expensive.
>>So
>>far I've only used Canon OEM inks but I'd like to switch to refills to
>>save
>>some money. I realize that the BCI-6 cartridges are among the easiest to
>>refill and there are many companies selling refill kits, but because the
>>i9900
>>uses a different print head with more nozzles and smaller droplets, I'm
>>more
>>worried about clogging than I would be with a lower-end printer.
>>
>>Has anybody with an i9900 had any experience (positive or negative) with
>>any
>>refill kits?
>>
>>I would only refilling the 6 main colors; the red and green get used so
>>little that it doesn't make sense to refill them. I've been looking
>>through
>>all the archived posts on here and so far my list of choices is as
>>follows:
>>
>>inksupply.com - mostly positive opinions, a 6-color kit with empty
>>cartridges
>>is $72.45
>>hobbicolors.com - few opinions, a kit costs $17 but only includes a single
>>syringe that you have to rinse; smells like trouble
>>inkgrabber.com or inkjetmaddness.com - no refills; full cartridges only.
>>Price
>>is either $15 or $20 for a six-pack
>>alotofthings.com - useless since they won't ship to Canada
>>weink.com - mostly positive opinions but $200 is outrageous!
>>inkjetsaver.com - low cost $27 plus $18 for empty cartridges, but I found
>>one
>>article on here that called this a "disaster"
>>inkjetgoodies.com - few opinions, a kit costs $71.64
>>printerfillingstation.com - few opinions, an 8-color kit costs $60 but it
>>doesn't come with empty cartridges
>>inkproducts.com - few opinions, a kit costs $64.95
>>atlanticinkjet.com - apparently they use (or did use) the highly acclaimed
>>Formulabs ink, a 6-color kit with empty cartridges would be $22+22+18=$62
>>CAD
>>
>>Has anybody used any of the above with an i9900?
>>
>>--Tom.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

 

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In article <588Pe.631$sV7.309@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
inkystinky@oem.com says...
> TOO BAD THERE ARE NO RELIABLE VENDORS SELLING BRANDED INK. I KNOW THAT
> CANON IS OVERPRICED AND REALLY WISH THERE WAS AN ALTERNATIVE. I SPENT A
> LOT OF TIME RESEARCHING THE PROBLEM AND UNFORTUNATELY CAME UP EMPTY HANDED.
>
There are several vendors selling branded refill inks from MIS,
Sensient, and others. They have offended inkystinky in some bizarre way
(even though he has not done business with any of them), and he confuses
the labeling of prefilled cartridges with the labeling of bulk ink. Bear
in mind that he is a non-user with no experience, and listen to the
users with actual experience. My very positive experience is with
alotofthings.com, but if they do not ship to Canada, you will have to
look elsewhere.

 

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overload@spam.ftc.gov wrote:

>I run an i9100 which is the 6-color equivalent of the i9900 or the big
>brother (wide carriage version) of the i960. I have run almost 16
>ounces of each color using the westink continuous feed with the weink
>inks over the last year or so with no problems. The westink prices are
>about $5 per 16 oz more than the others, or a total of $30 for an
>awful lot of ink and no problems. You pays your money and you takes
>your choice.
>
>Jim
>
>
>On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 02:46:45 GMT, tom8192@hotmail.com (Tom) wrote:
>
>
>
>>I've had my i9900 for over a year now and recently I've been printing a lot
>>more of those 13 X 19 posters so the ink costs are starting get expensive. So
>>far I've only used Canon OEM inks but I'd like to switch to refills to save
>>some money. I realize that the BCI-6 cartridges are among the easiest to
>>refill and there are many companies selling refill kits, but because the i9900
>>uses a different print head with more nozzles and smaller droplets, I'm more
>>worried about clogging than I would be with a lower-end printer.
>>
>>Has anybody with an i9900 had any experience (positive or negative) with any
>>refill kits?
>>
>>I would only refilling the 6 main colors; the red and green get used so
>>little that it doesn't make sense to refill them. I've been looking through
>>all the archived posts on here and so far my list of choices is as follows:
>>
>>inksupply.com - mostly positive opinions, a 6-color kit with empty cartridges
>>is $72.45
>>hobbicolors.com - few opinions, a kit costs $17 but only includes a single
>>syringe that you have to rinse; smells like trouble
>>inkgrabber.com or inkjetmaddness.com - no refills; full cartridges only. Price
>>is either $15 or $20 for a six-pack
>>alotofthings.com - useless since they won't ship to Canada
>>weink.com - mostly positive opinions but $200 is outrageous!
>>inkjetsaver.com - low cost $27 plus $18 for empty cartridges, but I found one
>>article on here that called this a "disaster"
>>inkjetgoodies.com - few opinions, a kit costs $71.64
>>printerfillingstation.com - few opinions, an 8-color kit costs $60 but it
>>doesn't come with empty cartridges
>>inkproducts.com - few opinions, a kit costs $64.95
>>atlanticinkjet.com - apparently they use (or did use) the highly acclaimed
>>Formulabs ink, a 6-color kit with empty cartridges would be $22+22+18=$62 CAD
>>
>>Has anybody used any of the above with an i9900?
>>
>>--Tom.
>>
>>
>
>
>

 

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Steve Lee wrote:

> I have used Hobbicolors refill kit for my ip8500, extremely happy so far.
> The kit came with 8 3rd party BCI-6 cartridges using plastic screws to
> seal.
> It works effortlessly. Just screw and unscrew. No tricks and no
> gimmick and
> cheap as supposed to. In my opinion those cartridges are the best you can
> get so cheaply. The ink is also fantastic. Colors are so close to OEM
> that
> my wife can not tell which is which without staring at the prints back
> and
> forth for a minute. Still some of the prints there are hardly any
> difference
> at all. I have no problems for 8 moths already. I notice that I rarely
> need to
> run clean cycles. That's a sign of trouble free operation.
>
> You are right about getting only one syringe from their refill kit.
> But if
> you buy the kit you will find that the syringe they provide is
> probably the
> best you can get. It's made in Germany. They said because the syringe
> uses no
> rubber it will last just about forever. Remember ink will eat the
> rubber rather
> quickly. If you use separate syringes and don't rinse them you will
> find them
> stuck in the syringe within a few months. You have to buy another set
> again.
> I found it more practical to use one that will last long although have
> to rinse
> between refills. It may smell like trouble to you. But it actually
> keeps you
> out of trouble from those cheap (should be free) syringes made in China.
>
> Talking about weink, they used to be a cheapy 2 years ago. For really
> no reason
> they skyrocketed their prices more than doubled. They are worse than
> Canon in
> getting your money for ink.


THEY ARE REALLY NOT VERY PROFESSIONAL AND WAY OVERPRICED.

>
> Formulabs is a popular brand name and for that reason will cost you more.
> There are many good reports about Formulabs but there are also a few
> bad ones
> too. Refilling itself can cause some problems if you do not have some
> basic
> knowledge to keep your printers from getting into problems. Formulabs
> should
> be fine except a little pricey although not as crazy as weink.
>
> Steve
>
> Tom wrote:
>
>> I've had my i9900 for over a year now and recently I've been printing
>> a lot more of those 13 X 19 posters so the ink costs are starting get
>> expensive. So far I've only used Canon OEM inks but I'd like to
>> switch to refills to save some money. I realize that the BCI-6
>> cartridges are among the easiest to refill and there are many
>> companies selling refill kits, but because the i9900 uses a different
>> print head with more nozzles and smaller droplets, I'm more worried
>> about clogging than I would be with a lower-end printer.
>>
>> Has anybody with an i9900 had any experience (positive or negative)
>> with any refill kits?
>> I would only refilling the 6 main colors; the red and green get used
>> so little that it doesn't make sense to refill them. I've been
>> looking through all the archived posts on here and so far my list of
>> choices is as follows:
>>
>> inksupply.com - mostly positive opinions, a 6-color kit with empty
>> cartridges is $72.45
>> hobbicolors.com - few opinions, a kit costs $17 but only includes a
>> single syringe that you have to rinse; smells like trouble
>> inkgrabber.com or inkjetmaddness.com - no refills; full cartridges
>> only. Price is either $15 or $20 for a six-pack
>> alotofthings.com - useless since they won't ship to Canada
>> weink.com - mostly positive opinions but $200 is outrageous!
>> inkjetsaver.com - low cost $27 plus $18 for empty cartridges, but I
>> found one article on here that called this a "disaster"
>> inkjetgoodies.com - few opinions, a kit costs $71.64
>> printerfillingstation.com - few opinions, an 8-color kit costs $60
>> but it doesn't come with empty cartridges inkproducts.com - few
>> opinions, a kit costs $64.95
>> atlanticinkjet.com - apparently they use (or did use) the highly
>> acclaimed Formulabs ink, a 6-color kit with empty cartridges would be
>> $22+22+18=$62 CAD
>>
>> Has anybody used any of the above with an i9900?
>>
>> --Tom.
>>

 

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In article <j%7Pe.4038$Z87.2047@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,
inkystinky@oem.com (measekite) wrote:

> UP UR WHOLE WID A HURSHE BAR
>
> >Measekite note: he's looking for people with *experience*, not
> >unsupported, prejudicial opinions.

Sorry! I meant experience of refilling, not doing strange things to
yourself with chocolate bars. I forgot that you have some unusual hobbies.

Jon.

 

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In article <588Pe.631$sV7.309@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
inkystinky@oem.com (measekite the troll with a caps lock problem) wrote:

> I SPENT A LOT OF TIME RESEARCHING THE PROBLEM AND UNFORTUNATELY CAME UP
> EMPTY HANDED.

There's a typo there, it should be 'empty-headed'.

Jon.

 

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Well check again.

branded bulk ink, manufacturer known - http://www.getinkexpress.com/

branded cartridges - with a warranty on cartridges and printer -
http://www.weink.com/ecom/catalog/responsible_brand_bci-3e_6_cartridges_for_canon_3674628.htm
The Responsible brand website is http://www.responsibleink.com/

 

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You are such an idiot. I buy from them, I don't work for them.

 

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Frank wrote:

> Tom wrote:
>
>> I've had my i9900 for over a year now and recently I've been printing
>> a lot more of those 13 X 19 posters so the ink costs are starting get
>> expensive. So far I've only used Canon OEM inks but I'd like to
>> switch to refills to save some money. I realize that the BCI-6
>> cartridges are among the easiest to refill and there are many
>> companies selling refill kits, but because the i9900 uses a different
>> print head with more nozzles and smaller droplets, I'm more worried
>> about clogging than I would be with a lower-end printer.
>>
>> Has anybody with an i9900 had any experience (positive or negative)
>> with any refill kits?
>> I would only refilling the 6 main colors; the red and green get used
>> so little that it doesn't make sense to refill them. I've been
>> looking through all the archived posts on here and so far my list of
>> choices is as follows:
>>
>> inksupply.com - mostly positive opinions, a 6-color kit with empty
>> cartridges is $72.45
>> hobbicolors.com - few opinions, a kit costs $17 but only includes a
>> single syringe that you have to rinse; smells like trouble
>> inkgrabber.com or inkjetmaddness.com - no refills; full cartridges
>> only. Price is either $15 or $20 for a six-pack
>> alotofthings.com - useless since they won't ship to Canada
>> weink.com - mostly positive opinions but $200 is outrageous!
>> inkjetsaver.com - low cost $27 plus $18 for empty cartridges, but I
>> found one article on here that called this a "disaster"
>> inkjetgoodies.com - few opinions, a kit costs $71.64
>> printerfillingstation.com - few opinions, an 8-color kit costs $60
>> but it doesn't come with empty cartridges inkproducts.com - few
>> opinions, a kit costs $64.95
>> atlanticinkjet.com - apparently they use (or did use) the highly
>> acclaimed Formulabs ink, a 6-color kit with empty cartridges would be
>> $22+22+18=$62 CAD
>>
>> Has anybody used any of the above with an i9900?
>>
>> --Tom.
>>
> I've used nothing but after market carts in my i9900 after the oem
> were all used up. I have never had a head clog nor have I (or my
> clients) noticed any color difference at all.
> You have to nuts to continue to use aftermarket inks.
> Frank

 

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canon_phreak wrote:
> You are such an idiot. I buy from them, I don't work for them.
>
You should kill file the moron. He is beyond stupid.
Frank

 

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I think so.

 

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In article <EV6Pe.7856$A%1.7053@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
stevelee@hotmail.com wrote:
>I have used Hobbicolors refill kit for my ip8500, extremely happy so far.

This is great info, exactly the kind of reply I was hoping for. I believe the
8500 uses a simmilar print head as the 9900 (8 colors, 2 picoliters) so this
looks very promising.

>The kit came with 8 3rd party BCI-6 cartridges using plastic screws to seal.
>It works effortlessly. Just screw and unscrew. No tricks and no gimmick and
>cheap as supposed to. In my opinion those cartridges are the best you can
>get so cheaply.

Excellent! I was deliberating between spongeless and sponge cartridges, but
for some reason the spongeless ones leave me worried about giant spills if I'm
not careful.

>The ink is also fantastic. Colors are so close to OEM that
>my wife can not tell which is which without staring at the prints back and
>forth for a minute.

Sounds like you use the exact same "test" to evaluate photo quality as I do

>Still some of the prints there are hardly any difference
>at all. I have no problems for 8 moths already. I notice that I rarely need to
>run clean cycles. That's a sign of trouble free operation.

How many refills of the photo-cyan and photo-magenta have you done during
those 8 months? I understand that the cartridges with sponges are are only
good for about 10 refills each. Did you intall all 8 Hobbicolors cartridges
all at once or did you have a mix of these and OEM installed for a while?

>You are right about getting only one syringe from their refill kit. But if
>you buy the kit you will find that the syringe they provide is probably the
>best you can get. It's made in Germany. They said because the syringe uses no
>rubber it will last just about forever. Remember ink will eat the rubber rather
>quickly. If you use separate syringes and don't rinse them you will find them
>stuck in the syringe within a few months. You have to buy another set again.
>I found it more practical to use one that will last long although have to rinse
>between refills. It may smell like trouble to you. But it actually keeps you
>out of trouble from those cheap (should be free) syringes made in China.

Makes sense to me. How critical is the rinsing? Is it just a quick flush with
water or do you need to do repeated cleanings with alcohol to rinse out every
last drop of ink?

>Talking about weink, they used to be a cheapy 2 years ago. For really no reason
>they skyrocketed their prices more than doubled. They are worse than Canon in
>getting your money for ink.

I really don't understand why ink prices vary so much. From the $17 for the
Hobbicolors kit to the $200 for the Weink kit you would think you're getting
at least 10X the amount of ink!

Since I haven't heard any negatives about Hobbicolors yet, and the eBay
feedback for this guy is almost 100% I'm really tempted to try this.

--Tom.

 

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In article <N_7Pe.4037$Z87.1287@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>, measekite <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote:
>>Has anybody with an i9900 had any experience (positive or negative) with any
>>refill kits?
>
>IF YOU DARE TAKE A CHANCE ONLY USE NAME BRAND INK. YOU WILL MOST LIKELY
>NOT GET A GOOD VENDOR WHO WILL SELL YOU THAT BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT TO
>DISCLOSE WHAT THEY SELL YOU.

I realize that very few refill vendors will tell you who their supplier is,
and many of these vendors can and will change suppliers overnight without
telling their customers. I agree with you that there is no guarantee that
any vendor will provide you with ink that ensures trouble-free operation. I
also agree with you that suppliers can change their formulation overnight
without notifying the vendors; just like the whole Forumulabs magenta
incident.

Any refilling is obviously a gamble. The risk can be anything from a few
off-color photos to a dead print head. Given that the maximum risk is the
price of one print head, and the potential savings are typically higher than
that, it's a gamble that I'm willing to take. Also, by doing a bit of
research and reading testimonials from other users, the chances of getting
stuck with junk ink are much lower.

--Tom.