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September 10, 2006 7:39:27 AM

Lo there..

simple quastion actually its dumb.. How does the xbox 360 compare to todays pc's and graphics ? should i spent the money on a xbox 360 or spent it on a nice quad core pc in christmas time ?


AMD X2 3800+ (2.8ghz)
2gb Kingston Mem
XFX 7900 GT
80GB Sata 2
200GB Sata 2
Gigabyte Poseidon case
Gigabyte Watercooled.

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September 10, 2006 7:44:47 AM

Of course you would ask this on a personal computer focused site.

Get the PC.
September 10, 2006 9:00:39 AM

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Lo there..

simple quastion actually its dumb.. How does the xbox 360 compare to todays pc's and graphics ? should i spent the money on a xbox 360 or spent it on a nice quad core pc in christmas time ?


AMD X2 3800+ (2.8ghz)
2gb Kingston Mem
XFX 7900 GT
80GB Sata 2
200GB Sata 2
Gigabyte Poseidon case
Gigabyte Watercooled.


There is one main problem with your question to begin with. You cannot get a good pc gaming rig for the price of an xbox 360. Granted if you straight upgrade form the system you show listed, which if you wanted a quad core chip i.e. "kentsfield" you couldn't do only AMDs 4x4 which is a dual cpu setup form what I understand. If you were going to go to a real quad core then you will have to at least replace the mobo and chip and that alone will most likely run you close to the price of an xbox 360.

There was another thread a month or so ago about which is better console or pc and this is basically the same question. The 2 are mutually exclusive for the most part. Console gaming and pc gaming are like apples and oranges it is difficult to compare the 2 fairly. You have to ask yourself what you want to play console games or pc games, yes they have crossover games, but the experience is fundamentally different because of the hardware.

The last post from caboose-1 one says go for the pc which is correct if you want to play pc games but if you want to play console games get the console. No one here can give you a correct answer either way without bias you just have to ask yourself what do you want. Frankly with the pc you have you can probally play pc games just fine but it can always be better, just as you probally have an xbox but with an xbox360 it can be bettter.

And no one even bring up vista or DX10 since if he is wondering about a upgraded pc or an xbox360 I doubt he is worried about Vista since moving to vista and DX10 will cost much more than the price of an xbox360.
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September 10, 2006 10:24:01 AM

right now i have both a 360 and a nice gaming computer and i really dont see upgrading as of yet personally because my computer can run all the newer games at high settings so i went ahead and spent the money on the 360 so i could play those games that are exclusive to console that i like alot. right now im just screwing around modding it since my pc is already cracked out as it is but i like them both equally as much and wouldnt want to give up either of them.
September 10, 2006 11:44:10 AM

Get the PC, but quad-core isn't going to make squat difference to your gaming unless you like ripping DVDs, encoding APE and running lots of spyware at the same time as you play.
September 10, 2006 12:01:21 PM

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This is a funny question really, with the implementation of HD gaming in Xbox360 and upcoming PS3, the PC as a gaming platform will diminish some. The advantage of the PC over console was the resolution and flexibility, this is gap is disappearing rapidly.

If gaming is your only gig, it is becoming less sensible to go PC as the costs to put together a PC-gaming worthy system is in excess of 1000 bucks, while the consoles are around 300-600 (including PS3 pricing).

Jack


Jack hit the nail on the head, yet again! My view is that if you have the cash and you want bleeding edge techonolgy then get a PC. But if all you want to do is play some games, whether multiplayer or single player, get an xbox360. I was suprised at how good Live actually is, puts many pc games online server browsers to shame!

My advice if you just want to game, get a 360 and a Wii. Don't bother with a PS3, far too expensive for far too little benefit over a 360.
September 10, 2006 4:33:50 PM

The Best thing about having an XBOX 360 is the HD games. When you have a big screen TV playing Madden 07 its like being Ben Affleck at a strip club.

The only problem I have with the XBOX 360 is playing FPS. I grew up fragging with a keyboard and mouse back when DOOM came out, and I can't get use to a controller for games like HALO 2.

Conclusion: If you have a nice HDTV then drop the money on the XBOX 360 otherwise keep dumping money like the rest of us in our gaming rigs.
September 11, 2006 10:08:14 AM

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The Best thing about having an XBOX 360 is the HD games. When you have a big screen TV playing Madden 07 its like being Ben Affleck at a strip club.


Errrr....I'm guessing that's not from official MS literature.
September 11, 2006 10:34:51 AM

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This is a funny question really, with the implementation of HD gaming in Xbox360 and upcoming PS3, the PC as a gaming platform will diminish some. The advantage of the PC over console was the resolution and flexibility, this is gap is disappearing rapidly.

If gaming is your only gig, it is becoming less sensible to go PC as the costs to put together a PC-gaming worthy system is in excess of 1000 bucks, while the consoles are around 300-600 (including PS3 pricing).

Jack


You´re forgetting something though. Most people need a PC to work, to do their homework or just to surf the internet. If they have to buy a PC anyway (costing around 600$), why not invest another 300$ into it so it can be used for gaming instead of buying a xbobx?
In addition, while most parents like buying toys for their kids (xbox, ps3), ALL parents want their kids smart, and getting them to use a PC to gain some computer skills still looks like a way to achieve that - at least to an average parent. The kids have a totally different idea of what to do with that machine though... :lol: 
September 11, 2006 10:51:05 AM

Replace the 7900GT with a budget 7600GT, drop the expensive water cooling, and grab a 360 as well if you ask me..

That's pretty much what I did actually.
September 11, 2006 11:07:19 AM

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Replace the 7900GT with a budget 7600GT, drop the expensive water cooling, and grab a 360 as well if you ask me..


Pure genious, our friend here took the words right out of my mouth, how clever, yet so swift. Get both. If you don't have the money get a job. If you have a job, get another. :D 
September 11, 2006 12:10:55 PM

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Lo there..

simple quastion actually its dumb.. How does the xbox 360 compare to todays pc's and graphics ? should i spent the money on a xbox 360 or spent it on a nice quad core pc in christmas time ?


AMD X2 3800+ (2.8ghz)
2gb Kingston Mem
XFX 7900 GT
80GB Sata 2
200GB Sata 2
Gigabyte Poseidon case
Gigabyte Watercooled.

I assume you already own such a system, since you're talking here about buying a quad core.
If so, i'd say that your PC is good enough for the current generation of games, and i'd have no doubt and buy an Xbox 360 (or perhaps a Wii).
September 11, 2006 12:53:12 PM

The only consoles I've ever owned are all by Nintendo, the NES, SNES, Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance, N64, GameCube... because I consider Nintendo the cheap fun console for playing silly games with my friends.

My computer however, is for when I seriously want to game and everything else in my life. If I had the option of getting an XBOX 360 or a computer, I would obviously chose the computer, because it can be used for so much more. If I need to wirelessly stream music around, if I want to be able to watch movies anywhere in my house, if I want to play games with all the eye candy. It would be a lot more expensive, but most games I play on the XBOX I can play on computer. Plus, MMORPG's... I want to see someone play WoW on the XBOX 360 =P

I like versatility. I would rather pay more for an all-in-one system than pay for individual things. Especially since space is an issue also...
September 11, 2006 1:27:19 PM

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The Best thing about having an XBOX 360 is the HD games. When you have a big screen TV playing Madden 07 its like being Ben Affleck at a strip club.

The only problem I have with the XBOX 360 is playing FPS. I grew up fragging with a keyboard and mouse back when DOOM came out, and I can't get use to a controller for games like HALO 2.

Conclusion: If you have a nice HDTV then drop the money on the XBOX 360 otherwise keep dumping money like the rest of us in our gaming rigs.


For those fo you who have played FPSs on a console, can you please compare the gameplay to a computer? I grew up playing on a keyboard and mouse, starting from Duke Nukem 3D, Warcraft, Command and Conquer, and Doom 2. I love the mouse and keyboard. I played Halo no the Xbox once, and did not like the control, although I did not play much. It is obviously cheaper to get a computer, but if you learn the control, is it ok to play FPSs? I am thinking of getting a Xbox in the future if the control is good to play FPSs.
September 11, 2006 1:41:49 PM

I hate FPS on consoles, could never get the hang of it. I would place bets that between 2 people of the same skill level playing a FPS with one on a console and one on a computer, the computer guy would decisevly kick the other guys butt.

Also, I'm waiting for 1080p projectors to come down to almost normal prices, and then we can see whats better, your 5x" HDTV or my 1xx" projector screen.
September 11, 2006 1:58:50 PM

One big advantage of console is that you know that when you put the CD into the drive tray its going to work and you dotn have to worry about how good your GPU is or how much RAM you have. Another advantage is that if you play online with consoles the only advantage someone is going to have over you hardware wise is internet connection and widescreen.

I have friend whos computer is upgraded to stay top of the line. He has 3 WD 150GB raptors in a RAID 0 stripe and 2 GB of the best OCZ Ram he could buy at the time. Couple that with his ultra fast internet connection and in COD2 he will load maps 20secs faster than your average gamer.
September 11, 2006 2:04:20 PM

Consoles may have HD gaming... but my PC has XHD gaming. Sorry but no HDTV comes close to the resolutions that is possible on my computer.

The screen may be bigger... but it doesn't mean the resolution is better
The 50" Samsung DLP uses a resolution of 1280 x 720, my computer with a single graphics solution and a 22" monitor uses a native resolution of 1680x1050, and that's on the smaller end of the spectrum... what with Dells 24" and Apples 30" supporting much higher resolutions.

Imagine combining 2 of those monitors... or 3 with the triplehead connector. Now that's serious gaming.
September 11, 2006 2:38:53 PM

For gaming I would recommend getting the X360. Why ? Well, a quad core is nice but PC games does not yet make use of dual core, let alone quad core. If you are expecting games support for the quad core, it will not happen soon where as all XBOX games make use of its hardware.
September 11, 2006 2:39:13 PM

I love my 360. Oh and dont worry about all the crappy pc ports since the 360's launch. They are just that.....crappy ports which werent designed for it. When the exclusives hit the pc will have a hard time keeping up. Just play PGR3, kameo, dead rising, burnout revenge, fight night round 3, geometry wars, street fighter 2, and eventually halo 3, forza 2, and an endless list of good games yet to be released. None of these are on the pc.
September 11, 2006 2:41:35 PM

None of them sound too tempting either.

The PC will pull ahead of the 360... just as it has done with all consoles. In a few years you will be quite a bit behind PC's standards... and than this argument will happen again with the xbox1080

BTW my friend James Linell lives in Lloydminister...
September 11, 2006 3:00:51 PM

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For gaming I would recommend getting the X360. Why ? Well, a quad core is nice but PC games does not yet make use of dual core, let alone quad core. If you are expecting games support for the quad core, it will not happen soon where as all XBOX games make use of its hardware.


well thats not really true.. all xbox games dont make full use of the systems hardware. anytime you read about a developer for a console, they always say that they havent mastered programming for the console till the end of its lifespan. so right now games are probly only usin 20 - 30 % of the 360's capabilities.

@the guy who said you need $600 computer anyway for business or work and may as well throw 300 more at it to make a gaming rig.. you can get a comp for work for about 100 - 200, -- older comp on ebay or cheapo special at a retail store.
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September 11, 2006 3:01:08 PM

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This is a funny question really, with the implementation of HD gaming in Xbox360 and upcoming PS3, the PC as a gaming platform will diminish some. The advantage of the PC over console was the resolution and flexibility, this is gap is disappearing rapidly.

If gaming is your only gig, it is becoming less sensible to go PC as the costs to put together a PC-gaming worthy system is in excess of 1000 bucks, while the consoles are around 300-600 (including PS3 pricing).

Jack


Jack hit the nail on the head, yet again! My view is that if you have the cash and you want bleeding edge techonolgy then get a PC. But if all you want to do is play some games, whether multiplayer or single player, get an xbox360. I was suprised at how good Live actually is, puts many pc games online server browsers to shame!

My advice if you just want to game, get a 360 and a Wii. Don't bother with a PS3, far too expensive for far too little benefit over a 360.

I absolutely despise and dread playing FPS & Strategy games on a console, the controls are horrendous. Keyboard and Mouse is by far the best controls for FPS and strategy games. That being said I MUCH preffer playing Racing & Sport games on a console as I find the gamepads to be much more responsive and less configuration is needed to get 'em working (calibrated).

My 2 cents.
September 11, 2006 3:05:39 PM

Have you played any of the games I listed....? You cant even get a good racer on the pc and I listed 2 amazing ones out already for the 360. How many times have you and your drunk buddies sat down together for a good shit-talking session playing games on your single pc(although I'll admit LAN starcraft/warcraft 3 is just as good)? My 360 has NEVER crashed on me in the time I've had it. Never had to do a driver update. Seamless online plsy that just works. No upgrades. No hassles. PC gaming is fun but there just arent enough titles out there to warrent upgrading as often as you need to. You should check out the next gen tony hawk, gears of war, GTA, FIFA, Halo 3, ect.... PC gaming seems to be about upgrading for that next 1 big game coming out and then when it finally hits, playing it till time's end. Only games I still play for he pc are CS: Source, starcraft, Warcraft 3, and....well thats about it. Not bashing the pc but it's just got boring these past couple of years.

Oh and sry dont know your friend. Maybe spud does.....
September 11, 2006 3:17:05 PM

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All the games you just mentioned I have played. Kameo while graphically impressive was a total bore compared to other classic platformers I have played.

I thought it was amazing, especially considering it was a launch title.

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Fight night was cool but got old quick. How hard is it anyway to make characters in a game look great when all they have to do is fight in a ring?

Well it's probably not that hard but it's still fun as hell and not on the pc....
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The other games you mentioned are nothing special in terms of graphics or gameplay.

I added some more to the list in my next post, so check it out. I dare you to come out with a better list of games for the pc that have been put out in the past year. If they existed I'd proably have played them.
September 11, 2006 3:18:53 PM

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None of them sound too tempting either.

The PC will pull ahead of the 360... just as it has done with all consoles. In a few years you will be quite a bit behind PC's standards... and than this argument will happen again with the xbox1080

BTW my friend James Linell lives in Lloydminister...


Oh please...........the PC is already ahead of the 360 and it will only continue to get farther and farther ahead as better hardware becomes availible for it.


My PC as listed pisses all over the 360

X2 4800@2.7ghz
X1900XT@ 730core 832mem
2gig DDR 400mem at 450mhz

It can piss all over the xbox, ps2 and gamecube too but that doesnt mean they dont have 100's of games you cant play on it :lol: 
September 11, 2006 3:50:32 PM

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When you have a big screen TV playing Madden 07 its like being Ben Affleck at a strip club.

You actually enjoy being disinterested in your surroundings and daydreaming about Matt Damon?
September 11, 2006 3:53:04 PM

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When you have a big screen TV playing Madden 07 its like being Ben Affleck at a strip club.

You actually enjoy being disinterested in your surroundings and daydreaming about Matt Damon?

hahahahahaha! :lol: 

Some people do still know how to crack a good'n.
September 11, 2006 4:00:41 PM

I think I am the only person left in north america under the age of 40 that does not own a game console. In fact I have never owned a game console. I'm a PC gamer, I have tried to play games on consoles and think they lack something. The consoles don't allow for what I call real gaming...

I like being able to play games like WWC, Joint Opps. Ever try to play any kind of Real-Time Strategy game on a console??? How about Role-Playing??? Can you play Turn-Based Strategy??? And for those reasons I will never own a console system. And on top of all that, I like moding my system and you can't do that with a console...yet.

Oh Here is a word of advise for those of you have not noticed.
Never buy a game for the PC that also is made for the PS3! They will sux!

Also as long a there is a market for pc games like the ones above, then there will always be a PC that will play it better than a console.
September 11, 2006 4:05:28 PM

Cosole gaming is good, but you will have alot cut out when it comes to multi-player, such as having to go Live, also you will get cut out of a lot of good games, such as World of Warcraft (i could be wrong, as i thought i heard they were making a xbox360 port)
September 11, 2006 4:17:24 PM

why will PC gaming drop.. if anything it should rise. lets think about it . . everyone needs a pc at home for email. word, interne, .. and some need it for CAD, video/audio editing, and Math.

so you becsue you are a basic pc user you are willing to spend $400-$600 on a low end pc. now you also want to play games.. i think that it would be better to add $400 to you pc allowing you to play games and saving you the extra money that consoles cost. each console game costs extra money to make up for the loss from selling the console so the pc is better and the games are cheaper ..

no time to spellcheck . . GTG ... Class ...physics 341
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September 11, 2006 5:18:42 PM

I think building a gaming machine around Kentsfield is simply an idiotic idea. While the number of games that supports multi-cores is slowly growing, they are still few in numbers. Some games are not even optimized very well for dual cores; Oblivion is an example. I recall reading a review that showed the increase between a single and dual core CPU clocked the same speed was about 10% or perhaps less. However, other games like Quake 4 with the proper patch showed a substantial increase; about 40%.

Since you already have an overclocked X2 3800+ PC with a 7900GT, I'll say that's good enough for gaming. It could be better, but it is definitely no slouch.

I would say that the Xbox 360 graphics is comparable with the what you can get on the PC right now. But the PC is upgradeable and will eventually exceed the quality of the Xbox 360; but you have to drop the money for a good DX10 card. One good thing about console games is that you will not need to worry about hardware. If you buy a game for the 360 three years from now you'll be guaranteed that it will be playable on the 360 that you buy this year. Not so with the PC. While the graphics on the PC will eventually be better, you may need to buy a new GPU to play a game three years from now to play at the highest settings.

My advice is forget about the graphics and focus on gameplay. Are there any games coming out on the 360 that you want to buy? What type of games do you play? Some games will simply not come out on a console because the style of the game may not appeal to many people, or you'll need to buy a keyboard to play it properly.

We all know FPS are great on both PC and consoles, some people prefer using the gamepad rather than keyboard and mouse. But what about real time strategy games or turn based strategy games? There are ususally too many commands for the gamepad without having to resort to drilling down on menu after menu to go to the command you want. Civilization 4 for the Xbox? No way.
September 11, 2006 6:09:16 PM

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If gaming is your only gig, it is becoming less sensible to go PC as the costs to put together a PC-gaming worthy system is in excess of 1000 bucks, while the consoles are around 300-600 (including PS3 pricing).


My computer resents the implication that it isn't gaming worthy, the only game I can't play at full detail is Oblivion, (thought Fable with 4x AA chugs a little and I think FEAR would probably kill it), and I spent about $800.
September 11, 2006 6:16:45 PM

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Cosole gaming is good, but you will have alot cut out when it comes to multi-player, such as having to go Live, also you will get cut out of a lot of good games, such as World of Warcraft (i could be wrong, as i thought i heard they were making a xbox360 port)


I'm pretty sure the lead designer of WoW confirmed that it would not be coming to 360.

But quite why anyone would want a game with a boredom factor as large as WoW's is beyond me. Spend 10 hours mindlessly chopping away at monsters to level up? No thanks.
September 11, 2006 6:24:06 PM

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But quite why anyone would want a game with a boredom factor as large as WoW's is beyond me. Spend 10 hours mindlessly chopping away at monsters to level up? No thanks.


I think you are refering to Oblivion??
September 11, 2006 6:25:11 PM

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But quite why anyone would want a game with a boredom factor as large as WoW's is beyond me. Spend 10 hours mindlessly chopping away at monsters to level up? No thanks.


I think you are refering to Oblivion??

In Oblivion you don't actually need to level up at al to finish the game. I have finished the game at level 2. It's actually easier that way.
September 12, 2006 12:04:44 AM

If you got around 3500 to burn, go right ahead and order your new PC, with all the trimmings ;)  lol

I'd never purchase an Xbox 360, i think the graphics aren't as good as they are and will be on a PC, nor am i too hot about the PS3... (although some of the games that are coming for the PS3 i am interested in for sure, so i might purchase it to play those must have 8-12 games, yeah i know expensive toy)
September 12, 2006 12:30:58 AM

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None of them sound too tempting either.

The PC will pull ahead of the 360... just as it has done with all consoles. In a few years you will be quite a bit behind PC's standards... and than this argument will happen again with the xbox1080

BTW my friend James Linell lives in Lloydminister...


Oh please...........the PC is already ahead of the 360 and it will only continue to get farther and farther ahead as better hardware becomes availible for it.


My PC as listed pisses all over the 360

X2 4800@2.7ghz
X1900XT@ 730core 832mem
2gig DDR 400mem at 450mhz


Thank you. I'm glad someone finally said that.
September 12, 2006 12:35:44 AM

wait a year to get the console, so u see wich is better, personally i say upgrade ur pc to dx10, then at the end of the year get a ps3 or wii cuz they will hav the most diff games from pc

i get consoles for games i cant get on pc, not for its power, although no one would argue that the gfx are bad on the new consoles
September 12, 2006 2:35:24 PM

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For gaming I would recommend getting the X360. Why ? Well, a quad core is nice but PC games does not yet make use of dual core, let alone quad core. If you are expecting games support for the quad core, it will not happen soon where as all XBOX games make use of its hardware.


well thats not really true.. all xbox games dont make full use of the systems hardware. anytime you read about a developer for a console, they always say that they havent mastered programming for the console till the end of its lifespan. so right now games are probly only usin 20 - 30 % of the 360's capabilities.


I partially agree with you, although I never said make full use of the use XBOX hardware. It probably take 2nd or 3rd gen to do that.

What I was refering to is from a developer point of view, all XBOX will pretty much have the same hardware so their games will make use of all the hardware available.

For the PC, dual core is quite recent. So games in development will not be able to take advantage of them. Even next gen will be a tough call because not many people will have a dual core, let alone a quad core. The developer will have to decide whether to optimize their games for it or wait a bit longer.

What could happen is people like Intel and AMD to give incentives to some developers to have special versions for dual cores machines to speed up the take up of these chips.
September 12, 2006 2:35:56 PM

I have a 360 and I have to say I've been a bit dissapointed. The system rocks, don't get me wrong, but the title selection just plain sucks. I barely use it, and when I do, it's either Halo 2 or oblivion.

I'd say do neither, and wait until the PS3 and Wii make their debut. Make your decision when all cards have been played.

Right now, to me, the Wii seems very promising.

Also, the 360 is $300 for the base model... A 360 with all the fixings will run you $700 tops. A quad-core PC is going to be like double that....

Not a fair comparison really.
September 12, 2006 3:56:53 PM

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None of them sound too tempting either.

The PC will pull ahead of the 360... just as it has done with all consoles. In a few years you will be quite a bit behind PC's standards... and than this argument will happen again with the xbox1080

BTW my friend James Linell lives in Lloydminister...


Oh please...........the PC is already ahead of the 360 and it will only continue to get farther and farther ahead as better hardware becomes availible for it.


My PC as listed pisses all over the 360

X2 4800@2.7ghz
X1900XT@ 730core 832mem
2gig DDR 400mem at 450mhz

I will never dispute the fact that technology wise the PC will have the advantage because it is upgradeable. However, it is not technology I believe that will determine which way this will go. The fact remains that it is much simpler to play games on a console. You don’t have to worry about crashes, memory, video card, etc. Just put the game in and play. For the price of a high to mid video card you can buy an Xbox 360 now with games. So as a platform the console is a cheaper solution in most cases. I have also read many game articles about developers moving away from the PC as well. The bottom line is there is more profit in the consoles without all the headaches of hardware compatibility. So let’s face it, without support from developers where does PC gaming really stand in the long run. It may not have the prettiest game compared to the PC but it is still fun to play, which is why we love games in the first place. By the way, an Xbox 360 will support a USB keyboard. How times have changed!
September 12, 2006 4:29:19 PM

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However, it is not technology I believe that will determine which way this will go.


Uhm, what advances in videogames haven't in some way been related to an increase in technology? Better graphics, sound, physics, AI all need better technology. Even better gameplay can "need" it, in the sense that the better the technology the more imaginative developers can get with fully realising their initial goals, rather than knowing there are things they want to do but simply can't with current tech.

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The fact remains that it is much simpler to play games on a console.


Agreed, I suppose. But if you have the intelligence to post on forums, the "difficulty" of installing and playing a PC game shouldn't be too hard.

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You don’t have to worry about crashes, memory, video card, etc. Just put the game in and play. For the price of a high to mid video card you can buy an Xbox 360 now with games. So as a platform the console is a cheaper solution in most cases.


Couple of things here. Consoles can crash too, I guess you didn't get either of the close-to-release Xboxs/PS2s. I wouldn't bring up "games" if I were you, in the cost section, as console games (especially Xbox360) are often FAR more expensive, and retain their value longer, whereas PC games are quicker to fall into the "Bargain bin". So, cheaper solution for what? In the short term, sure. But in the long term, I'd argue the cost isn't all that different, when you consider that after 5yrs a PC is still useful for some things. When you get your Xbox3, what use is the 360?

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I have also read many game articles about developers moving away from the PC as well.


Ahem. I be needing lots of linkies.

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The bottom line is there is more profit in the consoles without all the headaches of hardware compatibility.


More profit to the console manufacturers, sure. More to companies? Maybe. Just remember that just about all development is done on PCs anyway, so making a console game isn't any easier. Also, when selling a PC game you have a larger market.

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So let’s face it, without support from developers where does PC gaming really stand in the long run. It may not have the prettiest game compared to the PC but it is still fun to play, which is why we love games in the first place. By the way, an Xbox 360 will support a USB keyboard. How times have changed!


Where does it stand? Well, yesterday, it stood as the premier gaming platform. Today, much the same. And tomorrow? I'm guessing the same. Note I didn't say "cheapest", or even "most money efficient", I just said "premier." Once again, I really need some links on all this "PC developers are ditching the ... PC" stuff.

I think a PS2 supports a keyboard too. Who actually bought one? Unless there is some serious push to support it, most people won't bother. After all, if you follow that line, what you end up with is a limited, technologically languishing, cheap PC which mostly only plays expensive games.

Synergy6
September 12, 2006 4:32:15 PM

Can we just end this thread with agreeing to disagree guys? Everyone likes different things, its a part of life. You aren't going to convert anyone from PC gaming to 360 gaming or vice versa.

Anyone agree with me?
September 12, 2006 4:43:07 PM

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Can we just end this thread with agreeing to disagree guys? Everyone likes different things, its a part of life. You aren't going to convert anyone from PC gaming to 360 gaming or vice versa.

Anyone agree with me?


The debate between consoles and PCs has been going on since the Atari 2600 vs the Apple II. In fact, it's been around longer than the Very old computer working? thread. :D 

I don't think mere mortals have the power to stop this debate. :cry: 
September 12, 2006 5:10:47 PM

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Can we just end this thread with agreeing to disagree guys? Everyone likes different things, its a part of life. You aren't going to convert anyone from PC gaming to 360 gaming or vice versa.

Anyone agree with me?


If I say no, does that mean I'm disagreeing to agree to disagree? If so, would a prudent resolution be to agree to disagree to agree to disagree? Or would I be disagreeing to agree to agree to disagree?

I like pie.
September 12, 2006 5:11:49 PM

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Can we just end this thread with agreeing to disagree guys? Everyone likes different things, its a part of life. You aren't going to convert anyone from PC gaming to 360 gaming or vice versa.

Anyone agree with me?


If I say no, does that mean I'm disagreeing to agree to disagree? If so, would a prudent resolution be to agree to disagree to agree to disagree? Or would I be disagreeing to agree to agree to disagree?

I like pie.

Hehe.
September 12, 2006 5:18:44 PM

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If I say no, does that mean I'm disagreeing to agree to disagree? If so, would a prudent resolution be to agree to disagree to agree to disagree? Or would I be disagreeing to agree to agree to disagree?

I like pie.


September 12, 2006 5:26:53 PM

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If I say no, does that mean I'm disagreeing to agree to disagree? If so, would a prudent resolution be to agree to disagree to agree to disagree? Or would I be disagreeing to agree to agree to disagree?

I like pie.




Haha.
September 12, 2006 5:40:48 PM

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If I say no, does that mean I'm disagreeing to agree to disagree? If so, would a prudent resolution be to agree to disagree to agree to disagree? Or would I be disagreeing to agree to agree to disagree?

I like pie.


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