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anymore good graphics cards left for agp 8x slots??

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September 10, 2006 1:44:09 PM

planning to upgrade first my current pc before buying a new one. unfortunately, the slot for this mobo is agp 8x :(  . now, i've been researching on the net about agp video cards, the 6800 ultra caught my attention but too pricey and some online stores don't have that card anymore. any recommendation on what graphics cards should i get, aside from the 6800 ultra???? hopefully the card that you guys chose will be able to run/play oblivion 4, FEAR, GRAW and the upcoming c&c tiberium wars. i don't expect it to be at the max graphical settings, but i do expect it to run the games above without framing or slowdown.. by the way, does the memory of the card matters?? does it affect the overall performance of the card??
September 10, 2006 1:50:43 PM

7800GS is best.

Also, X850s, X800XLs, 6800GS, and recent 7600GS, and 7600GT.
September 10, 2006 2:44:19 PM

prozac is right 7800gs is the best but if you r going to build a new pc soon better not buy something too pricey the X850s or 6800GS should do just fine with oblivion fear at medium settings in 1024*768 IMO
the memory of the card does matter, but is not the size but the speed of said memory wich will affect the performance of the card, the size only affects the quality of the textures you can select, in any case you should go with the fastest memory over the biggest capacity (better ugly textures that low fps especially in fear and graw)
so if you planning on buying any of this cards check the memory clock timings and latency (also the bus aperture), that should guarantee you get a better performance for your money
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September 10, 2006 2:52:04 PM

Well, here's my vote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102606

A lot of "bang for the buck", especially if you unlock the other four pipelines (you usually can on the VIVO models such as this; basically becomes an X850XT then). You'll spend a lot more to gain any significant performance increase. The only downside is this card lacks Pixel Shader 3 support, but frame rates are great otherwise and you can live without PS3. Just make sure you have a decent power supply with an extra 4-pin connector.
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September 10, 2006 3:04:58 PM

the cards prozac mentioned are your best bet
with the 78gs being the most expensive
and the 76gs being the lest expensive

i would say best 2 would be x850 or 76gt for the money
September 10, 2006 3:51:58 PM

Quote:
7800GS is best.

Also, X850s, X800XLs, 6800GS, and recent 7600GS, and 7600GT.


In order of performance, from best to worst:

7800GS > X850XT = 7600GT > X800XL >6800GS > 7600GS

The X850XT is almost impossible to find in AGP. I'd get this BFG 6800GS, which is $140 after a $30 MIR.
September 10, 2006 3:58:58 PM

My link above is for X850Pro VIVO AGP at NewEgg, $140 + $6 s/h, no MIRs involved. I've unlocked three of these cards now with no issues. X850XT performance for under $150 to your door is a GREAT deal.

I'm not knocking the nVidia stuff, just noting the bargain here...
September 10, 2006 4:07:00 PM

mjam, you're right. For some reason, I thought the X850XT I linked to was AGP.

In that case, I'd recommend X850PRO to OP as well. It's a solid card, and opening up 16 pipes and overclocking it are easy. Just remember to get an aftermarket cooler if you're going to do that.
September 10, 2006 4:09:17 PM

That's a PCI-E card.

inteloutside is looking for AGP 8X.

(this post irrelavent now)
September 10, 2006 4:11:27 PM

The x850xt by ATI is a very sweet card, I bought it last year and have since upgraded to dual BFG 7900 GT OC. BFG also makes the 7800 in AGP format so either of those would give you rock solid performance.
September 11, 2006 9:26:04 AM

ok, i'll just check the price on the cards you guys gave, tnx a lot!!!
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September 11, 2006 11:59:15 AM

While 7800GS and X850XTpe are the top of the line AGP in North America, the 7600GT and AIW X800XT are much better in the price/perfromance area.

I'd go for a $175 7600GT first, $160 AIW X800XT second, and that $140 X850 pro third.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-AIW800X
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...


Anyway, I'll share my AGP ranking:( best to worst)
Gaiward 7800GS Bliss (24 and 20 pipe) not available North America
7800GS/ X850XTpe
X800XTpe/X850XT/6800U/7600GT
X800XT
X800XL/X850pro/6800GT
X800 pro/X800GTO/6800GS OC (higher clocked models)
6800GS (reference clocks)
7600GS
September 11, 2006 6:02:36 PM

Ditto what Paul said.

The 7800 GTS actually performs very close to the 7600 GT at stock speeds, but the 7600 GT is way cheaper...
September 11, 2006 6:20:42 PM

lol damnit i just signed up to make this exact post :lol: 

anyways i have a ati 9800 pro 128mb agp card. my system is a 3.2 ghz p4 with 2 gb ram. will the 7600gs be a big enough improvement to warrant buying it? my limit is just around $150. id like to think my computer isnt obsolete just yet

this is mighty fine looking:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
September 11, 2006 6:56:47 PM

or an ati card since i play source most of the time?
September 11, 2006 6:59:30 PM

I have an asus 6800 gs unlocked to 6800 gt. So there you go, if you can get one of those (nv40 chip) you can unlock to 16 pipelines and 6 vertex shaders and with overclocking you get a free 6800 GT. google for articles on how. I've done all these to bios and don't need to load any programs. Been stable for 4 months now. No problems whatsoever. A great improvement from my ati 9600 pro crap card. They are dirt cheap, that is if you can find them.
September 11, 2006 7:21:46 PM

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anyways i have a ati 9800 pro 128mb agp card. my system is a 3.2 ghz p4 with 2 gb ram. will the 7600gs be a big enough improvement to warrant buying it?


NO. The 7600GS won't provide a noticeable (or worthwhile) improvement over your 9800Pro. If there is a performance gain, it's 5-10% at best. IMO, you should buy that 7600GT that Paul linked to. It's a little more than $150 ($170-ish), and it's out of stock, but it will provide a significant improvement over your current card, and it's got newer features like SM3.0. Plus, you could eBay your 9800 for about $50.
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