how to disable color ink cartidges?

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We are using Hewlett Packard Deskjet 970cxi printers in our office.
This deskjet requires both color and black ink cartridges with ink in the
printers for it to work.
However, we ONLY use the black ink to print office documents.
We are using the Windows XP and have set the printer property preference to
print in Black only (Advance - Color).
We found the color cartridges still being used and in time its empty and
requires to replace with new ones.

Can you tell me how to either disable the color ink cartridge ink level
sensors or disable to software to use any color ink at all?

We do know HP is getting rich selling us those expensive color ink
cartridges.
Your advise is much appreciated.

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A. Jacobs wrote:

>We are using Hewlett Packard Deskjet 970cxi printers in our office.
>This deskjet requires both color and black ink cartridges with ink in the
>printers for it to work.

I don't think the printer will stop completely. It may complain that
you're out of colour ink, but it should still print. Make sure you leave
the empty colour cartridge in the printer though.

>However, we ONLY use the black ink to print office documents.
>We are using the Windows XP and have set the printer property preference to
>print in Black only (Advance - Color).
>We found the color cartridges still being used and in time its empty and
>requires to replace with new ones.

Just keep printing and ignore the complaint from the software that
you're out of colour ink.

>Can you tell me how to either disable the color ink cartridge ink level
>sensors or disable to software to use any color ink at all?

In the printer driver, there is an option for "grayscale" printing. That
should use only the black cartridge if you have a usable colour
cartridge installed. You may also need to use the "plain paper" setting.

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Don't forget that the printer goes through a headclean cycle at start up,
sometimes when powering off the printer and at set times during printing.
You cannot alter that procedure. This will cause your ink cartridge to empty
even with no colour printing. However, as each cartridge has the printhead
on it, you can leave an empty one in the machine. The printer should
continue to work normally, setting it to grey scale is a useful suggestion
many printers use blue ink with the black to produce a true deep black.

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"A. Jacobs" <2001jgy.no@spam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> We are using Hewlett Packard Deskjet 970cxi printers in our office.
> This deskjet requires both color and black ink cartridges with ink in the
> printers for it to work.
> However, we ONLY use the black ink to print office documents.
> We are using the Windows XP and have set the printer property preference
> to
> print in Black only (Advance - Color).
> We found the color cartridges still being used and in time its empty and
> requires to replace with new ones.
>
> Can you tell me how to either disable the color ink cartridge ink level
> sensors or disable to software to use any color ink at all?
>
> We do know HP is getting rich selling us those expensive color ink
> cartridges.
> Your advise is much appreciated.
>
>
>

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Yes, I confirm the HP Printer setting are:
Color: Grayscale: Black only
Paper: Plain paper

But with this setting, with both color and black ink cartriges installed at
the same time, the color cartidge will be used up almost 2 months before the
black cartridges.

Can you tell me how to disable the color cartidge ink level sensor?

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Why don't you simply use a laser printer? Ink jet printers are not cost
efficient for printing large volumes of text documents. Laser printers are.
You can get a good laser printer these days for about $150.00. A basic
cartridge will print about 5000 pages and cost about $75.00. Get a laser
printer.

"A. Jacobs" <2001jgy.no@spam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> We are using Hewlett Packard Deskjet 970cxi printers in our office.
> This deskjet requires both color and black ink cartridges with ink in the
> printers for it to work.
> However, we ONLY use the black ink to print office documents.
> We are using the Windows XP and have set the printer property preference
> to
> print in Black only (Advance - Color).
> We found the color cartridges still being used and in time its empty and
> requires to replace with new ones.
>
> Can you tell me how to either disable the color ink cartridge ink level
> sensors or disable to software to use any color ink at all?
>
> We do know HP is getting rich selling us those expensive color ink
> cartridges.
> Your advise is much appreciated.
>
>
>

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In article <DJGPe.564$MN5.254@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>,
2001jgy.no@spam.yahoo.com says...
> Yes, I confirm the HP Printer setting are:
> Color: Grayscale: Black only
> Paper: Plain paper
>
> But with this setting, with both color and black ink cartriges installed at
> the same time, the color cartidge will be used up almost 2 months before the
> black cartridges.

This doesn't make sense. I go through 2-3 black cartridges for every
color, and I'm NOT set to black-only printing. I always use the hard to
find 78A instead of the common, half-full, 78D. I also assume you are
using the full 45A and not one of the low-capacity versions?

As others posted, if you only want black printing, get a laser
printer. It's cheaper in the long run.

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Company management decided not to spent large sum of money and all three
floors office use DeskJets.

"Kevin" <webman6@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Why don't you simply use a laser printer? Ink jet printers are not cost
> efficient for printing large volumes of text documents. Laser printers
are.
> You can get a good laser printer these days for about $150.00. A basic
> cartridge will print about 5000 pages and cost about $75.00. Get a laser
> printer.
>
>

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A. Jacobs wrote:
> This sound good idea.
> Can you explain how?
> I understand everything the ink cartridge is removed or power on, HP deskjet
> printer will perform ink level checking? or, may be I am wrong?
>
>
>>>
>>My HP 970 needs a color cartridge to print but the
>>cartridge doesn't have to have ink in it. If you
>>rotate 3 color cartridge through the 970 (put it
>>in, let it do the test print, put the next
>>cartridge in, etc.) it will think the last
>>cartridge is full so you won't get low ink
>>message. End of problem.
>
>
>

Send an email request to my address and I will
send you what I have.

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Just turning it off doesn't make it forget; the
info is stored on a chip not in volatile memory,
otherwise the whole idea of determining ink level
would work.

There is a procedure, however. You turn on the
printer, take the color cartridge out, and turn
off the printer. Then turn the printer on and off
three more times, waiting a few seconds between
each turn off. Finally, turn the printer on and
reinstall the color cartridge. The printer should
now recognize the cartridge as a new cartridge and
begin a calibration check.


A. Jacobs wrote:
> But the 970 will forget all the cartridge setting after power is turn off?
> So the next day when the printer is turn on, the ink level is sense again?
> That is why we see the ink level yellow indicating light turn on.
>
> "George E. Cawthon" <GeorgeC-Boise@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:1a8Qe.686612$cg1.10097@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
>>Andrew Rossmann wrote:
>>
>>>In article <FSPPe.680799$cg1.169247@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
>>>GeorgeC-Boise@worldnet.att.net says...
>>>
>>>
>>>>The 970 assumes that any new cartridge is full and
>>>>it also remembers the last three cartridges. So
>>>>if you are using cartridge A, then you put in B,
>>>>then C, then D, and finally A, the memory of A
>>>>being out of ink will have been lost and it
>>>>assumes that it is a new, full cartridge. I think
>>>>this is the easiest way to reset the memory but
>>>>you need save three old (a total of four ) cartridges.
>>>
>>>
>>> It only remembers 2 cartridges of each type (currently loaded and
>>>previous). You only need to rotate between 3, not 4.
>>
>>Yeah you are right, I got to thinking and changed
>>the number by 1. Bad to start thinking sometimes.
>>
>>>
>>>>BTW, there are two other ways to reset the
>>>>memory, one involves pushing the front buttons and
>>>>the other is taping the contacts I don't have
>>>>that info in front of me but it has been well
>>>>documented, so you should be able to find it with
>>>>a google search.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think you can reset using the buttons. That does let you
>>>access diagnotic printouts and similar. The taping method just alters
>>>the ID, giving the effect of changing cartridges.
>>>
>>
>>I bought my 970 in 2000 and there were numerous
>>report of how to use the buttons. Power and form
>>feed buttons. Supposedly worked on all 900
>>series, but most frequently referenced for the
>>970. There may hardware changes during the time
>>the 900 were being manufactured, so that later
>>manufactured printer would not reset. When I
>>changed to a new computer with XP and started
>>using the USB cable, my 970 would no longer show
>>the ink level in the tool box, so there is no
>>reason for me to do much of anything with the buttons.
>>
>>I did find a copy of the procedure.
>
>

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A. Jacobs wrote:
> I still do not understand.
> As soon as I take the color cartridge out,
> these HP printers will not allow me to go on with no cartridge.
>
> "George E. Cawthon" <GeorgeC-Boise@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:sqrQe.144605$5N3.115004@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
>>Just turning it off doesn't make it forget; the
>>info is stored on a chip not in volatile memory,
>>otherwise the whole idea of determining ink level
>>would work.
>>
>>There is a procedure, however. You turn on the
>>printer, take the color cartridge out, and turn
>>off the printer. Then turn the printer on and off
>>three more times, waiting a few seconds between
>>each turn off. Finally, turn the printer on and
>>reinstall the color cartridge. The printer should
>>now recognize the cartridge as a new cartridge and
>>begin a calibration check.
>>
>>
>
>
>
What do you mean go on? You don't go on, you turn
the printer off. If necessary you pull the plug.

Your questions as I understood it was how to get
rid of the annoying low ink level message. That
is what this is about, clearing the memory of the
ink cartridge (status) so you don't get the message.
And no, you can't print without a color cartridge
in place.

Ok, you don't understand. so here it is.

(1) Turn on the printer. open the cover and the
ink cartridges move to an accessible area.
Unlatch the color cartridge and remove it and put
the latch down. push the on/off button. The head
moves to the park position and goes off. (2)Wait
5-10 seconds and push off/on button. The head to
the far left, rollers turn, the head moves to the
far right, then moves to the far left and then it
moves to the "problem with color cartridge" stop.
Turn off the printer. The head moves to the
right and parks. (3) repeat step (2) two more
times. (4) put the old color cartridge back and
close the lid. Wait (might take several seconds
to start) and the head should do an alignment.
(if not, click print on the computer and go to
tools and do an alignment (click "Calibrate the
device" ).

Now you should not get the low ink message because
the printer thinks a new cartridge was installed.
When you do get another message just repeat the
above procedure).

I just ran the procedure on my 970 and it seems to
work fine.

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Well, I'm confused. Sure you can set up the
printers (whatever that means). But if you have
several printers, just switch the empty
cartridges among the printers. Might want to keep
track of where the cartridges come from and go to
so that the next time you need to switch them they
don't go back to the printer they came from.
Remember all you have to do is put a new (to the
printer) cartridge in the printer. The printer
will assume that it is new full cartridge and
operate without any adverse message whether or not
the cartridge is full or empty.

A. Jacobs wrote:
> Thank you very much George.
> OK, we have many same type of HP970cxi in several floors of offices here.
> I have a new color ink cartridge and many old empty color ink cartridges.
> I would like to keep the empty color ink cartridges in the printers and
> print in black only. Can I set up the printers? Thank you.
>
> "George E. Cawthon" <GeorgeC-Boise@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:0kNQe.148434$5N3.142534@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
>>What do you mean go on? You don't go on, you turn
>>the printer off. If necessary you pull the plug.
>>
>>Your questions as I understood it was how to get
>>rid of the annoying low ink level message. That
>>is what this is about, clearing the memory of the
>>ink cartridge (status) so you don't get the message.
>>And no, you can't print without a color cartridge
>>in place.
>>
>>Ok, you don't understand. so here it is.
>>
>>(1) Turn on the printer. open the cover and the
>>ink cartridges move to an accessible area.
>>Unlatch the color cartridge and remove it and put
>>the latch down. push the on/off button. The head
>>moves to the park position and goes off. (2)Wait
>>5-10 seconds and push off/on button. The head to
>>the far left, rollers turn, the head moves to the
>>far right, then moves to the far left and then it
>>moves to the "problem with color cartridge" stop.
>> Turn off the printer. The head moves to the
>>right and parks. (3) repeat step (2) two more
>>times. (4) put the old color cartridge back and
>>close the lid. Wait (might take several seconds
>>to start) and the head should do an alignment.
>>(if not, click print on the computer and go to
>>tools and do an alignment (click "Calibrate the
>>device" ).
>>
>>Now you should not get the low ink message because
>>the printer thinks a new cartridge was installed.
>> When you do get another message just repeat the
>>above procedure).
>>
>>I just ran the procedure on my 970 and it seems to
>>work fine.
>
>
>

Well, I'm confused

On my system (6210), when the color block comes up, and i can't get rid of it, I just remove the catridge, and leave it out. you will get warnings, each time, that only the blk cartidge is available.

Hp has been nothing but problem after problem for years! Get a Brother MFC for about the same price as a couple of HP cartridges. No annoying print level popups...you can use aftermarket inks and they work great. Throw away the HP...I"m done with them!