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September 14, 2006 3:39:52 AM

UPDATE: I ANNOUNCE THIS THREAD IS A WASTE OF TIME!!! THE TOPIC HAS BEEN RESOLVED, A FTP SITE HAS BEEN FOUND! A NEW THREAD THAT PROVIDES AN AREA FOR COMMENTS AND IMPROVEMENTS HAS BEEN STARTED...


http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?nam...

I appreciate those who are here and really want to help... For the others, I wish you the best in your attempts at what ever your triing to accomplish.


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I made a really cool excel sheet...

It contains 3 sheets...

First Sheet is A complete list of all the FSB, Multipliers, and clockspeeds
Range: Multiplier 15-5 and a huge selection of FSB's

Second Sheet is a "Target CPU Speed." All you do is enter the Target CPU speed, and it gives you all of the Memory Speeds for all the different Memory Multipliers and CPU Multipliers

The Third Sheet is the exact oposite. it is "Target Memory Speed" and all you do is enter the Speed you want your Memory to run at, and it will show you all of the CPU/FSB combinations for each of the memory multipliers.


This tool will be great for people who might find more fine tuned settings at different Multipliers... Please if you got a FTP site to host it, or if you can create an account somewhere and post it there, I would be so HAPPY...

Until then please email me, and Ill email you the Sheet...

BTW; I am missing one Memory multiplier... I think its 889/1066... its the one between 800 and 1066... any help?


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UPDATE SEPT 17, 2006:
Made Changes to original email, so that It will better serve the community.

I have had a VERY positive response to this tool... Please send me email at big_green_jelly_bean<=-=-at-=-=>yahoo.com to request a copy! Just remove the "<=-=-at-=-=>" and put a "@". This will help me from getting spam... I will do my best at giving it away, but if I get slammed I will stop sending it out... PLEASE will someone find/create a place and upload it... This will help me, and will allow others to upload it quickly. Read the responses for details as to why I am unable to do this myself.
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Thanks
Mike
September 14, 2006 3:59:37 AM

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I made a really cool excel sheet...


Why are you overclocking Excel? Really large spreadsheets?
September 14, 2006 4:02:25 AM

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I made a really cool excel sheet...


Why are you overclocking Excel? Really large spreadsheets?

I was just gonna ask that. Here's a great topic on Cnet forums about overclocking a tv tuner. I guess the guy thought it gives you more channels or something like that :lol:  . I don't know about you guys, but I once made a really cool benchmark where I timed how long it took my computer to paste a 5,000 page file into a word document from the clipboard.
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September 14, 2006 5:08:03 AM

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I made a really cool excel sheet...


Why are you overclocking Excel? Really large spreadsheets?

I was just gonna ask that. Here's a great topic on Cnet forums about overclocking a tv tuner. I guess the guy thought it gives you more channels or something like that :lol:  .

Check it out! Makes Nascar go even faster! That's not a bad idea if you could slightly fast forward some shows. Maybe more than slightly on some chick flicks.

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I don't know about you guys, but I once made a really cool benchmark where I timed how long it took my computer to paste a 5,000 page file into a word document from the clipboard.


I've made up a few benchmarks, mostly when consulting with a client that does very specific apps and runs them all day long. So make up some macros and drag race them to convince the client to buy the stuff they need. I never tried to sell small hardware advantages because you could normally get better value by improving their work flow or write them some good productivity macros, etc.
September 14, 2006 6:05:23 AM

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I made a really cool excel sheet...


Why are you overclocking Excel? Really large spreadsheets?
I was wondering that myself but got here too late to ask that myself(always happens)
September 14, 2006 12:28:27 PM

I didnt say it was a benchmark, and if you read my letter you would understand that it was a simple tool to find different FSB, Multipliers, and CPU speeds.

A tool is simply an Application, Hardware, or other peace of equipment that provides the user with a benifit. In this case its knowledge. Benchmarks are also a tool, but without BASIC understanding of the methodology; you will be unable to use the tool. Whats also important is that without a strong knowledge of the Methodology, you wont be able to use the tool with efficiency. All computer professionals, system designers, IT professionals and MIS professionals should understand the term "Tool" and "Methodology".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methodology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool

Without this understanding of proper and popular communication usage people make ignorant statements and decisions. This costs people money, and in the computer world leads to inefficent poorly written applications. Without this methodology the application and/or system designer fails to create proper User Interfaces, OOP and proper understanding of the program language or applications. I hate when I see a programmer who has ten years of computer programming experiance, use globals. I hate it even more when they build any application that uses more then a thousand lines of code without a single object, or a significant lack of knowledge of programming methodology. What good is it to own a hammer if you cant hit a nail with it, or hold it correctly.

But this is a discussion is for another thread... I wanted to inform the ignorant of the definition and specific wording used in the body of my original post. Please do not high jack this thread in a continued discussion of my statements made above. If you would like to talk about this feel free to quote my statements and make another thread in a different section of the forum.

For thoose who want to bitch about my thread title; let me save you some time... it is limited to a certain number of characters... and didnt your mother teach you to never judge a book by the cover.

In addition, please DONT highjack my thread. Talk about other devices in their own thread, in the proper forum. My excel sheet only deals with the Core 2 Duo... By including information on other topics you distract the conversation, and you create a reference for others that becomes un-usable.

LASTLY you should know that you cant overclock a single application... Sorry, but its just not possible... Maybe you should read a bit more before responding to threads.

To use my tool:
You just change the number on the top of the sheet and it gives you all of the data you need. For a wide range of potential settings provided by most motherboards... Its really cool... If your looking for specific settings, then this tool is invaluable. But I warn people, without the proper Methodology it is unsafe to overclock any machine.


Thanks, but please dont bring this thread offtopic again.
Mike
September 14, 2006 2:09:49 PM

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LASTLY you should know that you cant overclock a single application... Sorry, but its just not possible...


Do you have a link to a proof of this statement?
September 14, 2006 2:46:06 PM

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LASTLY you should know that you cant overclock a single application... Sorry, but its just not possible...


Do you have a link to a proof of this statement?

I don't think he needs to "prove" that at all to someone who is supposedly smart.

Overclocking refers to increasing the speed of hardware. If you want to improve the performance of software, you need to write better code.

And the original poster, I believe, is simply talking about some Excel application that tells people (who may not know a lot about overclocking), what settings to use given a specific hardware configuration. At least that's what I got out of it.
September 14, 2006 2:51:29 PM

I understand what the Excel sheet is going to help me with...

I don't understand where the "overclocking Excel" or "overclocking an application" thing came in? Am I missing a typo that warrants the making fun of the OP?
September 14, 2006 3:38:03 PM

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I understand what the Excel sheet is going to help me with...

I don't understand where the "overclocking Excel" or "overclocking an application" thing came in? Am I missing a typo that warrants the making fun of the OP?


Guess they cant read past the title... and no; I am not posting references to why you cant overclock single applications. Try learning what Overclock is... Goto wikipedia and read what they say about overclocking.
September 14, 2006 3:41:36 PM

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LASTLY you should know that you cant overclock a single application... Sorry, but its just not possible...


Do you have a link to a proof of this statement?

I don't think he needs to "prove" that at all to someone who is supposedly smart.

Overclocking refers to increasing the speed of hardware. If you want to improve the performance of software, you need to write better code.

Hook, line and sinker.

Oh, nobody said I was "supposed" to be smart. I just got lucky. Keep trying, don't give up hope, maybe they will invent a miracle drug for your problem. One more thing... If you OC the processor, software will run proportionally faster, therefore performing better. So there is more than one solution to the bottom line of improved performance. For decades, I've cheered those that improve software more than those that make faster chips. Ultimately, I think there's more to be gained by writing better code but that's a long hard road.
September 14, 2006 3:51:01 PM

oops, forgot to delete that line... thats what you get when you dont re-read what you write... Sorry, I didnt mean to insult you...
September 14, 2006 4:04:23 PM

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oops, forgot to delete that line... thats what you get when you dont re-read what you write... Sorry, I didnt mean to insult you...


Not a problem. I'm pretty thick skinned and was just teasing you about the thread title.
September 14, 2006 4:05:01 PM

You have to expect people to hi-jack the thread if you're not careful either where you locate your thread, or how you word it. =)

Do a google search for free web hosting...make sure safe search is ON. =)

However, you can probably host it through your school (if you're still young...), or through your ISP. Almost all ISP's allow for a small website. ISP's assume you're not going to use your web site space...which is usually the case...so it's a cheap way to advertise extra stuff, without having to support it much. I've put up a couple of excel html links myself... Outside of those two options, there are a ton of free hosting sites.

For instance: (my excel sheets)
http://home.comcast.net/~apesoccer/oc/Expert_Dec05bios.htm
http://home.comcast.net/~apesoccer/oc/Expert_3800X2.htm
September 14, 2006 4:42:46 PM

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I made a really cool excel sheet...

It contains 3 things...

First Sheet is A complete list of all the FSB, Multipliers, and clockspeeds
Range: Multiplier 15-5 and a huge selection of FSB's

Second Sheet is a "Target CPU Speed." All you do is enter the Target CPU speed, and it gives you all of the Memory Speeds for all the different Memory Multipliers and CPU Multipliers

The Third Sheet is the exact oposite. it is "Target Memory Speed" and all you do is enter the Speed you want your Memory to run at, and it will show you all of the CPU/FSB combinations for each of the memory multipliers.

This tool will be great for people with locked processors, who might find more fine tuned settings at a lower Multiplier... Im not going to be emailing it to everyone... but if you got a FTP site to host it... please PM me, and Ill email you the Sheet... Just make sure to post the FTP...

BTW; I am missing one Memory multiplier... I think its 889/1066... its the one between 800 and 1066... any help?


lol. That's like saying, "I created a really cool notepad file that shows blah blah blah!"

Make it a data-driven web page.

www.geocities.com
www.freeweb.com
www.crystaltech.com ( <- best )


www.webmonkey.com
September 14, 2006 4:53:43 PM

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LASTLY you should know that you cant overclock a single application... Sorry, but its just not possible...


Do you have a link to a proof of this statement?

I don't think he needs to "prove" that at all to someone who is supposedly smart.

Overclocking refers to increasing the speed of hardware. If you want to improve the performance of software, you need to write better code.

Hook, line and sinker.

Oh, nobody said I was "supposed" to be smart. I just got lucky. Keep trying, don't give up hope, maybe they will invent a miracle drug for your problem. One more thing... If you OC the processor, software will run proportionally faster, therefore performing better. So there is more than one solution to the bottom line of improved performance. For decades, I've cheered those that improve software more than those that make faster chips. Ultimately, I think there's more to be gained by writing better code but that's a long hard road.


You've missed the point entirely. Not surprising from someone who uses an obsolete Air Farts command patch.
September 14, 2006 7:11:21 PM

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You've missed the point entirely.


You have no point. You are pointless. Your pointlessness is rising around you (rising around you). In baseball, you've been shut out. In tennis, you lost at love. But your major loss was your sense of humor. The OP got it but still you pose atop your soap box pounding out a drum solo that nobody hears. Maybe you need to turn down the multiplier on that high-hat.

I dub thee Captain Hijackoff, Protector of Sacred Threads!
September 14, 2006 7:28:45 PM

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lol. That's like saying, "I created a really cool notepad file that shows blah blah blah!"

Make it a data-driven web page.

www.geocities.com
www.freeweb.com
www.crystaltech.com ( <- best )


www.webmonkey.com


lets see... I really dont care if people get it or not... I figured someone from This site could put it up, or not... If someone wants to share it then thats cool... I made it for myself...

And ohh Im really going to spend the time programming it in ASP or PHP... Expect that when Im dead. My excel sheet does all that I need it too... It does the calculations based on input, I dont need anything else... nor do anyone else who needs it... The idea that I am going to program it is rediculous...

Ill do it if you PAY me... otherwords, it stays as a excel sheet. Why dont I send it to you, and you can see how it works... then you can program it for the web

Mike

PS Free ISP's are not reliable on serving out files... They want you to use their sites so they can send you advertisements. No adds come with downloads. I also dont have access to the applications that I would need to host this on my own ISP... Not until I move... (dont have a way to upload files because I dont have a FTP application) and this computer has a limited access.
September 14, 2006 7:58:28 PM

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lol. That's like saying, "I created a really cool notepad file that shows blah blah blah!"

Make it a data-driven web page.

www.geocities.com
www.freeweb.com
www.crystaltech.com ( <- best )


www.webmonkey.com


lets see... I really dont care if people get it or not... I figured someone from This site could put it up, or not... If someone wants to share it then thats cool... I made it for myself...

And ohh Im really going to spend the time programming it in ASP or PHP... Expect that when Im dead. My excel sheet does all that I need it too... It does the calculations based on input, I dont need anything else... nor do anyone else who needs it... The idea that I am going to program it is rediculous...

Ill do it if you PAY me... otherwords, it stays as a excel sheet. Why dont I send it to you, and you can see how it works... then you can program it for the web

Mike

PS Free ISP's are not reliable on serving out files... They want you to use their sites so they can send you advertisements. No adds come with downloads. I also dont have access to the applications that I would need to host this on my own ISP... Not until I move... (dont have a way to upload files because I dont have a FTP application) and this computer has a limited access.


lol. Take a deep breath and count to 10 buddy :) 

Crystaltech is like $4 or $6/month, and they're an awesome host.

Very few people are going to download an excel sheet because (1) it could contain a virus and (2) because not everyone has excel. If you really want to share it, I'm just suggesting you do so using a medium that's both safe and portable. Otherwise you may as well just keep it to yourself.
September 14, 2006 8:53:32 PM

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PS Free ISP's are not reliable on serving out files...


Doesn't matter...This isn't a file that keeps anyone alive or in a job. Not to mention that's an over-generalization. Especially since you're looking for free hosting anyway...

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They want you to use their sites so they can send you advertisements. No adds come with downloads.


Yep...adds...that's how you pay for it. Right on there...nobody likes advertisements...


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I also dont have access to the applications that I would need to host this on my own ISP... Not until I move... (dont have a way to upload files because I dont have a FTP application) and this computer has a limited access.


If you're incapable of using Google...or Download.com, to search and download a FREE ftp program, like i did, then you definately don't have the skills to have written a decent excel file...Which you probably did. Lazy bastard!


You know how long it took me to post mine? About 2min. That includes, downloading the ftp software, installing it, getting my user id and password, finding the address i need to ftp it up to, then uploading it. It takes me about 15 sec to update them now. And before you say you can't upload the file... I sincerely doubt the computer/ISP you're using is blocking ftp traffic. It could be...but it's not too likely. If you're on dial-up, it doesn't matter, because it would take the same amount of time to upload it to the ftp site, as to send it to us.

Edit: Oh one more thing...since i'm being a nit-picky bastard...If you're using any flavour of Linux, Windows 2000, Windows XP, or OS X...You have ftp already installed...It comes with the base install of all of the above. I don't like the ftp dos client that comes with 2000 or XP though...Which is why i downloaded a free one from download.com...
September 14, 2006 8:53:58 PM

I use openoffice, and it works great... also anyone can use a virus scanner... or not use it at all... or open it up in openoffice which isnt vulnerable to viruses.

Someone is looking into converting it to a web application... but I personally wont worry about it... I was going to share it cause I thought it would be a good gesture... but after receiving all this shit about it, I just dont give a flying F@#$!

I have access to a ISP, but like I said, I dont have access to any FTP applications... Nor do I have online access from any of my main machine... Its kinda like living in a box... I dont have internet access except from this lame computer that limits almost every activity known to man... Including, but not limited to, installing applications...

...It sucks for me... and now it sucks for you all...

Plus I dont need to do anything for anyone if I get shit from them
September 14, 2006 9:22:57 PM

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You've missed the point entirely.


You have no point. You are pointless. Your pointlessness is rising around you (rising around you). In baseball, you've been shut out. In tennis, you lost at love. But your major loss was your sense of humor. The OP got it but still you pose atop your soap box pounding out a drum solo that nobody hears. Maybe you need to turn down the multiplier on that high-hat.

I dub thee Captain Hijackoff, Protector of Sacred Threads!


The only point around here is the one up your 4th point of contact.
September 14, 2006 9:33:09 PM

Once I overclocked notepad by 50%. I could get it up to 60%, but it wasn't stable. It ran soooo fast. I could type as fast as I wanted and it would always keep up!
September 14, 2006 11:04:28 PM

Good work green keep your work and make some money you have some know how and use it wisely
September 14, 2006 11:25:45 PM

Yep, but I dont have a machine hooked up to the internet... I got this dum ass Windows XP machine that is set up for public use... My housing is all sorts of screwed up... Its been a year since I have been able to access the net as much as I am now... and in a month I will have my own internet access to my computer... until then I am isolated and without hope:( 
September 17, 2006 2:42:33 PM

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Take a good look at your 85 posts. You're not welcomes here unless you change your attitude.


I know you are not talking to me wusy... but you should be a bit more specific... please clarrify and just edit your original message... I want to keep the number of entries in this down to the minimum...

As far as the Excel sheet... it is very popular... lots of people are asking for it... I am going to do everything I can to supply it until someone steps up and places it in a reliable FTP site... Then maybe we can add it to Wusy's Overclocking Guide as a tool for advanced settings...

Anyways, Thats up to wusy... Please send me email at big_green_jelly_bean<=-=-at-=-=>yahoo.com to request a copy! I will do my best
September 18, 2006 3:09:22 PM

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I made a really cool excel sheet...


Mike, I think your only mistake was to post your message here. Plus, you will learn there is nothing to be gained by arguing with idiots.

Four days, and most of these messages are off-topic pathetic nonsense. Judging by the quality of what was said, I'd say you are in the company of a bunch of children with time on their hands.

The simplest answer to your question is: ask a friend to put this on their site. That would cost nothing.

There are very cheap ISPs that cost money. I've had multiple web sites at myhosting.com for the past nine years. Their cheapest is US$5 a month. Lots of storage and bandwidth.

It was nice of you to try to put your hard work out there for public use. That generous spirit was what started the Internet, but sadly all the good people are outnumbered by selfish idiots.

Tom George Bush

PS: The overclocking TV card thing was a spoof, but funny.
September 18, 2006 3:23:00 PM

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Re: Ignorance and Thread Highjacking [in reply to: NewbieTechGodII]
:roll: Anywhoo...


But my guide only allows 1:1, all the other dividers are burnt to ash.
And ASUS mobos have a funny way of calling their dividers with 'follow the FSB-DDR2 speed'.

Now, if you could make an Excel script that does timing for the three different ICs at different speed that'd be reaaaaaaaly cool!

Email me with what you mean and Ill send you the excel sheet. Maybe we can do what you want... to the best of our ability:) 

I am interested in Wusy responding with a bit more detail to what he ment when he said 1:1 is the only reliable multiplier. From my understanding, a memory multiplier of 1:1 is 1066, which is not reliable for some memory... Or are you talking about the idea of dropping the CPU Multiplier?!?

I will start another thread for this... when I get time... Please wusy, will you edit the above post and express what ratio you are talking about... So that I may create a good starting point for a child thread.
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It was nice of you to try to put your hard work out there for public use. That generous spirit was what started the Internet, but sadly all the good people are outnumbered by selfish idiots.

Tom D******

PS: The overclocking TV card thing was a spoof, but funny.
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Thanks... I am getting email requests for it... and am just emailing it out...

I got a ISP, I dont have access to FTP it... Ive said this so many times now, Im getting a headache..

The "spoof" may be funny, but it is highjacking, and it does no good to a very cool topic. People dont wade through 12 page threads... At least I dont... So it is not respected when someone fills up the thread with crap...

2 More people just requested it... I am hoping to get some real responses to it...

Off Topic: Tom, you should be carefull and not put your last name... its a bitch when and if some RMA department got the smarts to google your name, and came up with a bunch of threads about OC'ing...
September 18, 2006 3:46:39 PM

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Mike, I think your only mistake was to post your message here. Plus, you will learn there is nothing to be gained by arguing with idiots.


Maybe you should take your own advice?

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Four days, and most of these messages are off-topic pathetic nonsense. Judging by the quality of what was said, I'd say you are in the company of a bunch of children with time on their hands.


You don't get it.

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The simplest answer to your question is: ask a friend to put this on their site. That would cost nothing.


Yea, with Excel being hacked lately, I can hardly wait to download a sheet from some friend's site. Good luck!

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It was nice of you to try to put your hard work out there for public use.


Too bad it wasn't in a friendlier format!

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That generous spirit was what started the Internet, but sadly all the good people are outnumbered by selfish idiots.


A generous spirit started the Internet? No profit motives involved at all, huh?

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PS: The overclocking TV card thing was a spoof, but funny.


That's no spoof, dude! I've watched every NFL game from yesterday in their entirety in the last 7 minutes. That's about one minute more than they were worth but I don't have my OC fully tweaked just yet.
September 18, 2006 4:11:01 PM

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I am interested in Wusy responding with a bit more detail to what he ment when he said 1:1 is the only reliable multiplier. From my understanding, a memory multiplier of 1:1 is 1066, which is not reliable for some memory... Or are you talking about the idea of dropping the CPU Multiplier?!?
No, 1:1 gives a memory speed of 533. The FSB is 1066. Mem speed @ 1:1 is double the FSB. :wink:
September 18, 2006 4:50:45 PM

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Off Topic: Tom, you should be carefull and not put your last name... its a bitch when and if some RMA department got the smarts to google your name, and came up with a bunch of threads about OC'ing...


I bet they find plenty of Jim Smith overclockers. How do they know which is which?
September 18, 2006 5:00:58 PM

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Off Topic: Tom, you should be carefull and not put your last name... its a bitch when and if some RMA department got the smarts to google your name, and came up with a bunch of threads about OC'ing...


I bet they find plenty of Jim Smith overclockers. How do they know which is which?

Actually, M$ has a tool that tracks you online. It showed up on search engines for a few weeks, then vanished. It was REDICULOUS. I don't know who uses it, but it uses the MS search engine to spider and cross-reference all of your online aliases.

A little off-topic, but noteworthy. Don't think creating an alias protects you. If there's any link between the two (IP or otherwise), there are tool sthat will connect the dots.
September 18, 2006 5:07:05 PM

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Off Topic: Tom, you should be carefull and not put your last name... its a bitch when and if some RMA department got the smarts to google your name, and came up with a bunch of threads about OC'ing...


I bet they find plenty of Jim Smith overclockers. How do they know which is which?

Actually, M$ has a tool that tracks you online. It showed up on search engines for a few weeks, then vanished. It was REDICULOUS. I don't know who uses it, but it uses the MS search engine to spider and cross-reference all of your online aliases.

A little off-topic, but noteworthy. Don't think creating an alias protects you. If there's any link between the two (IP or otherwise), there are tool sthat will connect the dots.

So you think MS would give that info to Google?
September 18, 2006 5:11:57 PM

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Off Topic: Tom, you should be carefull and not put your last name... its a bitch when and if some RMA department got the smarts to google your name, and came up with a bunch of threads about OC'ing...


I bet they find plenty of Jim Smith overclockers. How do they know which is which?

Actually, M$ has a tool that tracks you online. It showed up on search engines for a few weeks, then vanished. It was REDICULOUS. I don't know who uses it, but it uses the MS search engine to spider and cross-reference all of your online aliases.

A little off-topic, but noteworthy. Don't think creating an alias protects you. If there's any link between the two (IP or otherwise), there are tool sthat will connect the dots.

So you think MS would give that info to Google?

What do you mean?

The site doesn't show up on MSN searches either (if that's what you meant).
September 18, 2006 5:13:55 PM

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So you think MS would give that info to Google?


What do you mean?

The site doesn't show up on MSN searches either (if that's what you meant).[/quote]

The OP mentioned a Google search. You talked about a MS tool. I don't know that MS would give anything to Google intentionally.
September 18, 2006 5:21:59 PM

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So you think MS would give that info to Google?


What do you mean?

The site doesn't show up on MSN searches either (if that's what you meant).

The OP mentioned a Google search. You talked about a MS tool. I don't know that MS would give anything to Google intentionally.[/quote]

Ah ok. Yeah actually I originally found the site with a google search for something completely different. (I think I actually googled my 2 primary e-mail addresses or something to see if they were connected anywhere. Something like that.)

I played with the tool for a couple of weeks, then I couldn't find it again. It was insane. You could search an online alias, and it would provide a list of all possible a.k.a.s, with links to cached versions of the pages where it found the cross-references, and a clickable link to search the person's name. It also had "Real Name" fields, probabilities that the a.k.a. was the person you searched for, etc. It was insane.
September 18, 2006 7:16:05 PM

Topic is over... Found a hoster... continue to bitch and moan all you want... Hijack it and have fun... I will update my original and first post with the results... and my opinion, which isnt positive... Thanks!
September 18, 2006 7:40:44 PM

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I played with the tool for a couple of weeks, then I couldn't find it again.


Maybe it initially mistook you for a manager?
September 18, 2006 7:57:35 PM

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I played with the tool for a couple of weeks, then I couldn't find it again.


Maybe it initially mistook you for a manager?

Perhaps. I just assumed it was never meant for public use, wasn't advertised but also wasn't secured. It may have also been meant for public use, but someone decided to pull the plug on it for security reasons (or a security company/gov't purchased exclusive rights).

There was no security (username/pass) at the time though. I thought it was just a new public service (part of live) until it went away. If I knew then what I know now I would've taken screen shots or something :( :( :( 
September 19, 2006 1:55:06 AM

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Why is it that "Clueless" is always highjacking threads... making unconfirmened claims, acting like an Ass, and never gives any actual solutions! In fact... I have yet to see a single thing that he has provided to this forum... I have never seen him help someone... though I do see him put people down...

I come to help people... call it a part of my quest in life to make a difference... to contribute to society, and to make someones life easier...

I come to hear what others have to say... To learn from them, and to listen...

My question is... WHY DO YOU COME HERE CLUELESS?

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Overclockers never use effective frequency. They're just for marketing people to fock people's brain up.

At stock it's 266FSB:266RAM


well there is a certain life and honesty to the numbers... They dont run everything at 1/2 multiplier so that they can double their ram numbers and then market the PC as a 2400MHz FSB!

There is a reason they choose a multiplier of 11 and a FSB of 266 for the X6800... Its a bit pointless to point this out, but it does hint to some engineering reasoning behind it...

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Anyways, why do you recommend 1:1 even with people who have very high rated memory speeds? Shouldnt I run my memory as close to its specified value as possible... For example... 11 Multiplier at 319fsb with a ratio that is 1 below the max would run the CPU at 3.33Ghz and the Memory at around 1066...

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My Excel Sheet
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I calculated memory ratio by using the Memory MHz speed for my excel sheet differently. I figured

(FSB * 4) * (X/1066) = Memory Speed

This is proven with a

266 * 4 * (800/1066) = 800

The Values the memory can be set to by looking at the bios with a 266 Mhz FSB represent X = 1066, 889, 800, 667, 533, and 400. Resulting in Ratios of: 1, .834, .725, .5, .375

What your telling me is that my idea of memory multipliers (listed above) are 1/2 the actual values and that memory speed is calulated with the following equation:

(FSB * 2) * Memory Multiplier = Memory Speed

Either way The results givin on my excel sheet are accurate. The issue is to display the ratio and equations right... When I asked for the memory ratios, no one gave me a answer... So I figured it out myself..

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I am interested in Wusy responding with a bit more detail to what he ment when he said 1:1 is the only reliable multiplier. From my understanding, a memory multiplier of 1:1 is 1066, which is not reliable for some memory... Or are you talking about the idea of dropping the CPU Multiplier?!?
No, 1:1 gives a memory speed of 533. The FSB is 1066. Mem speed @ 1:1 is double the FSB. :wink:
Then what are the other Memory Multipliers.... I asked for this information awhile ago and couldnt get it... I always thought it was 4 instruction sets per memory request... Because of Hyperthreading...
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Im happy with my excel sheet. I got the information I needed when asking for it failed. I created answers that are right... and I put it in a way that people seem to like... I hope others think the same thing...

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Mike

PS Wusy, you think in the FSB... and I think in that marketing mombo jumbo overall ram speeds...
September 19, 2006 3:39:49 AM

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Why is it that "Clueless" is always highjacking threads... making unconfirmened claims, acting like an Ass, and never gives any actual solutions! In fact... I have yet to see a single thing that he has provided to this forum... I have never seen him help someone... though I do see him put people down...


Tell you what, dude... I'll put $10,000 bucks in your Paypal account for every time up till this instant that someone on this forum has thanked you for your help. All you have to do is put $10K in my account for every time someone on this forum has thanked me for my help.

Basically, you've made a claim against me and I'm giving you a chance to put your money where your mouth is. I mean, a tough talker like you surely is willing to back up this claim - or is it just slander?

C'mon punk, make my day...
September 19, 2006 3:52:10 AM

...You make my point by the post...

Tell you what, dude... I'll put $10,000 bucks in your Paypal account for every time up till this instant that I pissed off someone on this forum. And all you have to do is put $10K in my account for every time you pissed someone off on this forum.

Basically, you've made a claim against me and I'm giving you a chance to put your money where your mouth is. I mean, a tough talker like you surely is willing to back up this claim - or is it just slander?

C'mon punk, make my day...


---- I like My rules, dont you? Or are you a Puss ----
September 19, 2006 4:03:43 AM

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...You make my point by the post... Why would I put money on it?


You won't put any money on it because:

a) you're chicken, cluck, cluck

2) you have no idea what my typical post looks like

iii) you can't afford the balance sheet

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I make your point? You said:

"Why is it that "Clueless" is always highjacking threads... making unconfirmened claims, acting like an Ass, and never gives any actual solutions! In fact... I have yet to see a single thing that he has provided to this forum... I have never seen him help someone... though I do see him put people down... "

Right there, black and white, you say I never give any actual solutions. "Never" is a very absolute word. You say that you've never seen me help anyone. I assert that this is proof that you have no idea what kind of contributions I've made. Basically, you are spewing sh!t that you have no foundation for. So I'm calling you out - stand behind your words or STFU.

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I will put 10,000 grand for every person Ive pissed off against your 10,000 grand for everyone you have...


That's an obvious follow-up, but the thing is, I'm not on a crusade to slander your name like you have been doing to me. I'm not spewing lies about you as you are about me. So quit trying to divert - stand behind your words or STFU.
September 19, 2006 4:05:08 AM

You pay money for higher costing chips because they are selected to be better then the others... Only the best get to be X6800 the rest are pushed to lower multipliers that are locked... I read the OC reports, and I read the OC Benchmarks, and I read the Non-OC benchmarks, and I had some money... So I bought the best:) 

The rest has to be sorted out with testing...

The problem without buying the best, is that you have no room for error...

I water cool... NO2 is simply not reliable and practicle... Phasechange and peltiers are also just insainely expensive and just not worth the money...

I respect your knowledge wussy, and your opinions... you are probably one of the smartest guys here... but I do disagree with you on some points... and I have seen people use the higher quality ram with higher running Memory speeds.


Mike

--- The Ironic part is that my Motherboard Sucks...
September 19, 2006 4:12:23 AM

Clueless...

There are so many things I could say right now... but I am not into going to...

I just dont care... You waste my time...

Do what you want... say what you want... be what you want... just please dont answer any posts I start... and I will do the same for you...

You know what I think of you... and I stand by my statements... Im sorry that your hurt... I will pray for you.
September 19, 2006 4:53:12 AM

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Do what you want... say what you want... be what you want... just please dont answer any posts I start... and I will do the same for you...


Sorry dewd, no promises. This is a forum, not your podium.

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You know what I think of you... and I stand by my statements... Im sorry that your hurt... I will pray for you.


You're gonna have to dig alot deeper to hurt me, little guy. Earlier in the thread, I told you I was teasing you about the thread title. That's about as far as I'll go in an apologetic direction. Yes, yes, I realize that you are proud of your Excel sheet and you want to share it. Sharing is cool. I'm no big league overclocker but I've read tips by people pushing big clocks and I've never seen any of them use a spreadsheet approach. All of the how-tos I read by the experts are systematic, patient, pay your dues formulas. So your sheet may be cool and some folks here might love it so much as to turn it into a poster, but I'll pass.

Here, just to show how I help people out on this forum, I'll re-post a couple of links I've given from time to time. Based on your other thread, you could really use to learn some of this stuff:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/

http://www.pcguide.com/byop/index.htm
September 19, 2006 5:08:18 AM

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I water cool... NO2 is simply not reliable and practicle...


Are you implying that people use NO2 for cooling? I've never heard of that. In fact, I'd think it would corrode the IHS, the mobo, basically anything it touched.

H2O + NO2 reacts to form HNO3, otherwise known as nitric acid.

Ambient humidity is a sufficient source of water...

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Phasechange and peltiers are also just insainely expensive and just not worth the money...


I've seen Peltiers on ebay for like $6. I've used them to cool detectors, etc. and they are not worth the effort to me because I'm not trying for an extreme OC. If I wanted to go beyond the clock I could get by water cooling, then a TEC might look like a bargain.

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I respect your knowledge wussy, and your opinions... you are probably one of the smartest guys here... but I do disagree with you on some points... and I have seen people use the higher quality ram with higher running Memory speeds.


It's great to see you educating wusy on the finer points of overclocking...
September 19, 2006 11:15:36 AM

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Im sorry that your hurt.


You're gonna have to dig alot deeper to hurt me, little guy.

Mike, why do you care what these children say? Clue69Less is nobody. Leave him here alone talking to himself.

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I've read tips by people pushing big clocks and I've never seen any of them use a spreadsheet approach.


Read tips? Very impressive. That makes your opinion of spreadsheets so valuable.

Be sure to write a long response that shows how cool you are. Yeah, do that.
September 19, 2006 1:05:09 PM

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Mike, why do you care what these children say? Clue69Less is nobody. Leave him here alone talking to himself.


Yea, Mike, do as he says, not as he does. It's so easy to disrespect someone that preaches one thing and does another...

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Be sure to write a long response that shows how cool you are. Yeah, do that.


You going for the world record panty wad I see...
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