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September 14, 2006 1:50:06 PM

For my new build I was thinking of purchasing the 64bit version of Windows. I really do not know anything but what I have read in a few reviews... Anyone out there with some hands on experience? Would there be any noticable benifit? Or would the driver hassels far outweigh this? I am leaning towards just getting the 32 and waitiing for Vista..

Also on a side note, What is the cheapest place/way to come about a copy of XP Prof SP2?

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September 14, 2006 2:57:43 PM

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What is the cheapest place/way to come about a copy of XP Prof SP2?

Here are some options (I encourage others to contribute):

- Copy one from work. Claim it is a business expense, then use it as a tax write-off. This one makes you money.

- Pay a college student $10. My university offered it at discount price.. only $5. Then offer the college kid a beer for $5. WinXP for $5 and the cost of a beer.

- Download Linux and pretend it is WinXP.

- Bash yourself repeatedly over the head until you forget WinXP, computers, your family, and the world exists. Then you're set to imagine your own world.

- Take LSD. Whatever OS you're using now will look a lot neater.
September 14, 2006 3:03:53 PM

Do not load XP64 except on test systems.
Most things will run slower and some things will not work.

Only use XP64 if you plan on having 4gb+ of memory in the system and have specific applications that will make full use of it.

Actually 8+gb may be the breaking point since XP32 can use most of 4gb anyways. (My system loses 512kb, some as much as 1gb, depending on how much is reserved for driver address space.)
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September 14, 2006 3:37:26 PM

honestly... xp x64 is perfectly viable to use as an everyday os, its what i use, preferable to xp x86 (have both installed right now on seperate partitions, but only have xp x86 installed so i can use my webcam, and on occasion the printer downstairs, other than that though, no reason to have xp x86 installed really)

as a whole, os performance on xp x64 is more responsive than xp x86

more stable overall than xp x86; ie, dont see blue screens nearly as often, or as many system crashes in general

application performance for 32bit applications is comparible to xp x86, as theres virtually no performance decrease running in wow64s hardware supported emulation environment, not that can be noticed anyhow

application performance for 64bit applications is superior compared to 32bit

you can use greater than 4 GBs of ram, without the use of a software hack basically (i think its for 36bit addressing support, but im not sure)

driver issues are virtually nonexistant if you can first get ahold of all the necessary drivers you would need; oem, 3rd party, or modded and what not

there are numerous antivirus applications out that support it; avg antivirus x64, avast antivirus x64, windows defender x64... those are the ones ive used anyhow, though im sure there are others as well

if you do run into problems running something on xp x64, theres always the option to dual boot into xp x86 (preferrably on a seperate partition, as always)

having used xp x64 for the past year almost, i can say, that the experience overall has been more pleasant as a whole
September 14, 2006 6:23:02 PM

Whats the best retailer that I could go to and purchase it? Im not a big shopper, and I want it by this weekend. If I ordered it now it prolly wouldnt make it till monday... And I want to pay new egg prices dangit!!
September 14, 2006 6:45:49 PM

lol.. no shyt! I know that man. I need my fix tonight! If I did overnight delivery.. theres no way it would make it by the weekend huh?
September 14, 2006 6:51:24 PM

lol, well okay, didnt realize you had already looked there... if you did overnight delivery though, your best bet would be to hope for monday if all goes well, especially considering its already thursday afternoon (unless they ship during the weekends too, whichcase, if they do, maybe you would get it as early as saturday or so at best)... possibly get it by friday, but, thats probably pushing it i would think
September 14, 2006 6:59:57 PM

What is the cheapest place/way to come about a copy of XP Prof SP2?[/quote]

:twisted: Steal it :twisted:
September 14, 2006 7:05:11 PM

Oddly enough your statements prove my point.

You have a WebCam and a Printer that do not work well with it.
You had to find special anti-spyware.
Etc... Etc....

It's a quaint option, but most benchmarks do not show an improvement in peroformance unless using 64-bit software and you have the memory.

Perhaps the performance boost you are seeing is by having less software running such as Internet Security by Norton and other little things which really slow a PC down.

In addition, Microsoft's Vista-64 will be quite a bit different than XP-64 so it is really not leading you towards the path to 64-bit.

If I were to make a suggestion to the poster, he should download and use the Vista Beta on a secondary partition. XP-64 is just a rogue OS much like Widows Millenium Edition that garnered limited support.

This is not to say that XP-64 is a bad product like Millenium was, but rather that many software vendors are not extending support to it because they know it will never even garner 1% of the Windows Market.

Every try getting tech support for XP-32? Terrible.
You think these smaller companies are setting up XP-64 labs to test, troubleshoot, and train their support staffs?

Sorry, It's not happening. All these folks are testing Vista, Training on Vista, and will likely provide stronger support for the Beta OS because the must get their product working on the OS that will be on the majority of PCs sold in the US one year from today.
September 14, 2006 7:17:13 PM

Im with you 100% mousemonkey.. and the techies came through and are going to toss me a copy.. now a new question, Anyone know of any good Windows key gens? lol Do they still work? I remember I had one for 98 but thats a ways back.
September 14, 2006 7:21:20 PM

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Im with you 100% mousemonkey.. and the techies came through and are going to toss me a copy.. now a new question, Anyone know of any good Windows key gens? lol Do they still work? I remember I had one for 98 but thats a ways back.


you can just google a cdkey more than likely... that way you dont risk opening up your computer to possible trojans and such that can sometimes be included in keygens
September 14, 2006 7:26:39 PM

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You have a WebCam and a Printer that do not work well with it.You had to find special anti-spyware. Etc... Etc....


i agree there, thats also why i said the driver support issue is more null, if youve made sure to resolve it beforehand... also, if you use certain hardware frequently, and there arent any drivers available for that specific hardware... x64 is probably a bad idea to move to

as far as responsiveness, usually no more than 30 or so processes are ever running in x86 or x64 either way on average, which minimizes os overhead and delays anyhow... but, in general, again... x64 is more responsive overall, compared to x86, given the same usage scenarios... it can be equated more to hdd access times... there may only be a few milliseconds of difference between the two, but its enough to consistantly notice
September 14, 2006 7:30:01 PM

There is/was a free 180 day trial download for XP 64 bit on the MS web site. I'm not certain, but I think its still avail.

Update- I just checked the MS site and couldn't find it. They must have pulled it when they released the Vista trial.
September 14, 2006 7:35:22 PM

I have a whole bunch of keys that will work with a corp copy of XP but I don't think I'm allowed to post them here for various legal reasons if anyone knows different please say yah or nah until then however Usenet is your friend :)  ,http://yabse.com/index.php?p=www could prove useful ahem :wink:
September 14, 2006 7:41:04 PM

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There is/was a free 180 day trial download for XP 64 bit on the MS web site. I'm not certain, but I think its still avail.

Update- I just checked the MS site and couldn't find it. They must have pulled it when they released the Vista trial.


its there still, lol:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/facts/trial.ms...
September 14, 2006 7:51:48 PM

Wow was just lead to something very interesting... anyone ever heard of
the magical jellly bean?
September 14, 2006 8:11:19 PM

Now Mr. Monkey your not the only one with a whole bunch of keys :twisted: :twisted:
September 14, 2006 8:19:07 PM

How hasn't this thread been locked?

Why not just have THG make a WAREZ forum for you nut jobs.

:roll:
September 14, 2006 8:28:20 PM

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lol.. no shyt! I know that man. I need my fix tonight! If I did overnight delivery.. theres no way it would make it by the weekend huh?

If you order from PC Connection, you can order until midnight or 1AM Eastern time (forget which) and still get your order the next day.
September 14, 2006 8:34:48 PM

Unless you need more than 4GB of RAM, stick with XP 32-bit; I run both versions and the average user won't notice a difference.
September 14, 2006 8:38:35 PM

Sssssh the killjo.. I mean moderators are coming.
September 14, 2006 9:04:10 PM

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There is/was a free 180 day trial download for XP 64 bit on the MS web site. I'm not certain, but I think its still avail.

Update- I just checked the MS site and couldn't find it. They must have pulled it when they released the Vista trial.


its there still, lol:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/facts/trial.ms...

Ah, good for you! I tried the link I'd saved for the 180 day trial. I didn't look very hard when that failed.
September 14, 2006 9:06:45 PM

Use the 32bit version. If you need or want to try a 64bit OS go for linux.
XP x64 has many drivers incompatibilities, it's noticeably slower than the 32bit edition for everyday applications and eats up to 50% more RAM.
September 14, 2006 9:17:51 PM

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How hasn't this thread been locked?

Why not just have THG make a WAREZ forum for you nut jobs.

:roll:
Will THG make a NEWEGG forum as well?
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