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September 18, 2006 8:39:52 AM

Hi,

Can someone help me choose between these video cards:

HIS Radeon X700 IceQ / 128MB GDDR3 / AGP 8x/4x / DVI / VGA / HDTV / Video Card

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...


PNY Verto GeForce 6200 / 256MB DDR / AGP 8x/4x / DVI / VGA / TV Out / Video Card

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...


Asus Radeon 9550 Gaming Edition / 256MB DDR / AGP 8x/4x / DVI / VGA / TV Out / Video Card

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

My computer has an AGP 4x slot so these will work, right? Obviously, only light gaming and my cpu is 1200mHz. I don't know anything about video cards at all, so any advice would really be appreciated. Thanks! :D 

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September 18, 2006 9:08:43 AM

well from what i seee your best choice would be the x700 it has GDDR3 ram and is a pretty good card... the gf 6200 card and is just crap... even if it has Shader Model 3.0 which you wont even notice... as for the 9550GE is a good card but is old and is about equal to a 9600 which has 4pipelines and wont do you any good..
can you show me your system specs also what games do you want to play?
September 18, 2006 10:46:02 AM

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well from what i seee your best choice would be the x700 it has GDDR3 ram and is a pretty good card... the gf 6200 card and is just crap... even if it has Shader Model 3.0 which you wont even notice... as for the 9550GE is a good card but is old and is about equal to a 9600 which has 4pipelines and wont do you any good..
can you show me your system specs also what games do you want to play?


Well, my system is a Gateway 1200CL, it has an Athlon 1200mhz processor and an AGP 4x slot and a 20gb hard drive. Right now it has Windows ME and 128mb RAM. My plan is to install 512mb RAM, a Video Card, reformat the drive, install Windows XP and see how long I can use it for. For games, I'd like to play Silent Hunter III and Microsoft Flight Sim, and maybe something like a flight combat game like Falcon 4.0 (actually I already own that one...)

Do you think the X700 would do this? I did another search for AGP 4x at Tiger Direct and found a couple of X1300 cards for a hundred bucks.

Diamond Radeon X1300 / 256MB DDR2 / AGP 8x/4x / DVI / VGA / TV Out / Video Card

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Diamond Radeon X1300 / 512MB DDR2 / AGP 8x/4x / DVI / VGA / TV Out / Video Card

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

I didn't want to spend quite that much, but we're only talking 20 more bucks and if it's really the way to go for me, I guess I could pony up a bit. Anyway, what do you think? Thanks!
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September 18, 2006 12:25:14 PM

As far as I know, the X1300 is fairly slower (see Tom's VGA chart) than the X700. It just adds floating point HDR, I think.

The X700 is your best bet, here - except if you can find an AGP 6600 GT for cheap, because those still can kick some ass.
September 18, 2006 1:57:14 PM

Out of those the X700 would be your best bet.
September 18, 2006 5:14:04 PM

Quote:
well from what i seee your best choice would be the x700 it has GDDR3 ram and is a pretty good card... the gf 6200 card and is just crap... even if it has Shader Model 3.0 which you wont even notice... as for the 9550GE is a good card but is old and is about equal to a 9600 which has 4pipelines and wont do you any good..
can you show me your system specs also what games do you want to play?


Well, my system is a Gateway 1200CL, it has an Athlon 1200mhz processor and an AGP 4x slot and a 20gb hard drive. Right now it has Windows ME and 128mb RAM. My plan is to install 512mb RAM, a Video Card, reformat the drive, install Windows XP and see how long I can use it for. For games, I'd like to play Silent Hunter III and Microsoft Flight Sim, and maybe something like a flight combat game like Falcon 4.0 (actually I already own that one...)

Do you think the X700 would do this? I did another search for AGP 4x at Tiger Direct and found a couple of X1300 cards for a hundred bucks.

Diamond Radeon X1300 / 256MB DDR2 / AGP 8x/4x / DVI / VGA / TV Out / Video Card

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Diamond Radeon X1300 / 512MB DDR2 / AGP 8x/4x / DVI / VGA / TV Out / Video Card

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

I didn't want to spend quite that much, but we're only talking 20 more bucks and if it's really the way to go for me, I guess I could pony up a bit. Anyway, what do you think? Thanks!
well yes you will need the 512mb ram are you just going to put i 512 and take the 128 out i would keep it all the more the marier. also the x700 is the best choice the x1300 i crap and is equal to a gf6200... i belive you will be able to play these games also is amd 1200mhz or is it like an athlon 1800+ at 1200mhz?
what is your budget also agp 4x slots can also handle agp 8x cards just so you know :) 
September 18, 2006 6:44:47 PM

X700 for sure.
September 18, 2006 6:47:44 PM

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X700 for sure.

Yea, the others are plain crap to say least.

Well, X700 is crap also, but not as much as the others. :twisted:
September 18, 2006 7:43:14 PM

OK, you guys are giving me some good stuff to work with. I'm kind of new to this, learning as I go. Sounds like I may want to step up a bit from the 700 if I hope to make it a year on this pc, so let me throw a budget at you all. Let's say the 120 - 145 neighborhood. I went to newegg and found cards such as the X1600 Pro, 7600 GS, and the X800 GTO. I read the info and they all look just perfect...Help! :D 

Oh yeah, you wanted to know about my processor, I recall it just says AMD Athlon 1200mHz, it does list a processor name. I'm not on that machine right now so I can't look it up. I'll send a note when I get home...
September 18, 2006 8:11:59 PM

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X700 for sure.

Yea, the others are plain crap to say least.

Well, X700 is crap also, but not as much as the others. :twisted:

If an X700 is crap, then where does my X600 fall?? The X700 is the ebst, by far.
September 18, 2006 8:21:37 PM

The 7600GS is an excellent card for the money, my few cents :) 
September 18, 2006 8:22:02 PM

as nice as the x1600pro and the 7600gs and the x800 would be for you and trust me they are all great cards there is one problem your CPU it will bottleneck which means it will just not be able to handle them i would get he x700 and save the rest of the cash for ram ... can you tell me your mother board model.. cus we can see from there :) 
September 18, 2006 8:42:23 PM

7600 GS or X800 PRO. Both are great.

Don't bother with the X1600 PRO.
September 18, 2006 9:00:56 PM

OK, got some info for you. The system is called a Gateway Select 1200CS, and the motherboard is a AMD (Keystone) Motherboard - 1.2-GHz [Part #2514354] Thanks!!!
September 18, 2006 9:14:51 PM

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OK, got some info for you. The system is called a Gateway Select 1200CS, and the motherboard is a AMD (Keystone) Motherboard - 1.2-GHz [Part #2514354] Thanks!!!

well i was searching to see if there was any other type of CPU you could upgrade to but i really dont think there is any in which you would notice a difference.... all i can say is get the x700 and mmm 512 SDRAM PC 133 and just use it up... do you plan on upgrading soonn .... cus as much as i hate it when ppl go you need to upgrade.... this time i think it will be for the better if you do... you could get a desent system for about....mmm $400 if you get some second hand or refurbished. :) 
September 18, 2006 9:23:41 PM

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X700 for sure.

Yea, the others are plain crap to say least.

Well, X700 is crap also, but not as much as the others. :twisted:

If an X700 is crap, then where does my X600 fall?? The X700 is the ebst, by far.
Crapier than X700.
September 18, 2006 9:52:56 PM

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OK, got some info for you. The system is called a Gateway Select 1200CS, and the motherboard is a AMD (Keystone) Motherboard - 1.2-GHz [Part #2514354] Thanks!!!

well i was searching to see if there was any other type of CPU you could upgrade to but i really dont think there is any in which you would notice a difference.... all i can say is get the x700 and mmm 512 SDRAM PC 133 and just use it up... do you plan on upgrading soonn .... cus as much as i hate it when ppl go you need to upgrade.... this time i think it will be for the better if you do... you could get a desent system for about....mmm $400 if you get some second hand or refurbished. :) 

Yeah, I'm practically spending that on upgrading my old war-horse... Maybe it's time. I was fully prepared to run this one into the ground though, no matter how long it took! :D  Thanks for the help! While we're talking, what kind of PC is HP putting out these days? Thumbs Up / Thumbs Down?
September 18, 2006 10:10:55 PM

THUMBS WAY DOWN just dont get PRE-made pc's ... dude you can make a pc that is twice as good as an HP for the same price..... what is your possible price range?
September 18, 2006 10:55:20 PM

To be fair, very small form factor PCs made by Dell are impossible to make for a competitive price. However, if you're not afraid to have a mid-size tower and a full-size ATX board, then do so: these usually are the cheapest yet most tweakable systems you can get.
September 18, 2006 11:31:18 PM

Well, I could probably scrounge up 8 or 900 bucks if I eat light for a couple of months...Ha!, but I'm not at all a hands on kind of guy. Took me 2 days to put together my home theater and tv stands...Argh! Building something from scratch is not something I would call fun.
September 18, 2006 11:36:26 PM

well you dont have to make it form scratch ... its not that hard its like legos but a little more complex i would just have a friend who knows more help you out...or i bet there is a guy at a local pc store who will set it up for a price for you but in the end i bet it iwll cost way less than a HP and be way better
September 18, 2006 11:47:16 PM

Lego's, Lol! I will give it some thought. Thanks much for your help today, really appreciate it!
September 19, 2006 12:01:19 AM

dont sweat it dude.. i know how it feels to need help.. good luck with the x700 :) 
a b U Graphics card
September 19, 2006 12:04:18 AM

Get the X700. Nice card for the money. I wouldn't spend more than that on a GPU for that system. Your CPU is below minimum spec for many games, and I know first hand that even games like NFSU2 and NFSMW have to be set at minimum detail on a TBird 1.2GHz, so almost any video card will. Anyway, the X700 would be the best component on that rig, any more GPU power is overkill & wasted.
September 19, 2006 12:24:16 AM

Errrrr get a new computer............. :wink:
a b U Graphics card
September 19, 2006 12:32:23 AM

the good thing about ms. flight sim is that it does require
a high end video card.

but if you want the new ms. flightsim x
well, it will chokeslam your current sys. :D 
September 19, 2006 12:40:40 AM

Hey, I have a question. Is building a pc pretty much screwing things together and then loading software? Is there a how-to book? I might be OK with directions! :D  Thanks!
a b U Graphics card
September 19, 2006 12:44:13 AM

oopps i mean to say that it does not require a high end
video card
September 19, 2006 3:45:03 AM

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Hey, I have a question. Is building a pc pretty much screwing things together and then loading software? Is there a how-to book? I might be OK with directions! :D  Thanks!


well the nifty thing is all the power connectors only go in one place....

the screws that hold a motherboard in place are pretty much a gimme as well

any cards you plug in only go in 1 way, 1 slot (same with memory)

the ribon cables are impossible to mess up anymore.......

lemme tell you a lil somethin - regardless of how this sounds .... (just hear me out here)

Wal Mart has a computer with 17" monitor, its a Sempron socket 754
and it comes with 512mb of RAM with 1 memory slot free
a PCI Express slot (for future graphics upgrade)
120gb 7200rpm drive
onboard graphics (GeForce 6100) which i can personally vouch for - great onboard graphics, i even managed Doom3 at low settings

this is a really good option for some one with little cash and in need of a upgrade, socket 754 is still a good platform even with new CPUs showing up, you get the option to upgrade to a PCI express video card and all for just under $400 - i would prolly upgrade the Power Supply if i added a better video card, but its nothing you have to do right away

its actually one helluva value concidering everything + an operating system
my cousin purchased one of these, he tossed in a decent 450W power supply and a GeForce 7600GT and is happily gaming the newest titles as we speak(type)

just a lil something to concider, for me building my own system is a hobby and has a bit to do with control over what exactly is in my system, its not what i always reccomend to everyone though


Edit: afore mentioned walmart system comes with a DVD burner to boot..
September 19, 2006 5:27:12 AM

Basically all of the parts come with a little book (manual) that tell you how to install that specific part. if you don't know what to do just RTFM (refer to F@$king manual)
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