On another post ppl were saying that the 7600 gt was the better choice, on toms vga chart it shows x850xt is higher than the 7600 gt. on tigerdirect.com the 7600 gt is less expensive and a few of them show more core speed and mem speed, so which really is better of the two.
They both trade blows in benchmarks. The X850XT is highend last generation, and the 7600GT is midrange new generation. The X850XT has a bit more raw power (16 pipes, 256bit interface), but they both perform similar. The 7600GT is a better buy because it's a bit cheaper, and has sm 3.0.
If you're the type of guy who keeps it's VPU for at least 2 years before upgrading, I'd go with the 7600GT only for it's ShaderModel 3.0 support.
Right now it isn't much of a problem, but it'll be... especially when Dx10 come out. Starting then most game will at least use SM3.0 (X850XT is only SM2.0) or show great performances advantage when doing it... and that should be approximatly mid-2007.
Just in case you think I'm an NVidia fanboy... think again. Check below and you'll realize that I personally own an ATI VPU.
On the other hand, like kaotao said before, new generation mid-range is usually slightly surpass by the previous generation high-end. It might change but that's usually the case. So in today's game, the X850XT should perform slightly better, but it's a game by game thing to check. It depend what type of game you play.
For me it's a think long term decision, so I'd take the 7600GT...
I see some 7600 gt's on tigerdirect.com that have higher core and mem speeds and 256 bit bus and 12 pipes etc would they be much faster than the x850xt it should be.
That's what I have... it's kinda loud but the performance is unbeatable for that price. I can run anything out today at fairly high settings at 1680x1050 without much of a hiccup.
But if you do have to stick with one vid card for a few years, than definitely get the 7600GT instead. No doubt more games will start to use SM3.0 this coming year.
If you're buying for an AGP system then go for the 7600, it's a shader model 3 card which means that you'll enjoy the new parts of Half Life 2 and Far Cry more because of better HDR support. The card should be quieter, cooler and use quite a bit less power than the x850.
If you're buying for a PCIe system then please consider nVidia's new 7900GS card. It's roughly the same price now as 7600s were when they emerged and will give you very nice performance as stock. There's a review of it on THG.
Before you buy any of these graphics cards, make sure your PSU can hack a powerful card - 450W minimum. Check this before you blow your current PSU and possibly your motherboard too!
which of the two is better 7900 gs ko with 20 pixel pipes or a x1900gt, vga guide does not compare the 7900 gs ko by evga. 7900 gs ko looks by specs to be better?
the x1900 xt is 499 canadian wonder why such a difference, the 7900 gs ko show better specs than the x1900 gt stock? the 7900 gs ko has 20 pipes and the x1900 gt has 12 pipes ?
the x1900 xt is 499 canadian wonder why such a difference, the 7900 gs ko show better specs than the x1900 gt stock? the 7900 gs ko has 20 pipes and the x1900 gt has 12 pies ?
A 'pipeline' is a TMU attached to a pixel shader.
A pixel shader processes pixel effects; TMU's are are used to texture pixels; ROP's rasterize the output.
ROPs aren't that important anymore. You want to know how many Pixel Shaders and how many TMUs, those are the most important metrics.
But at the end of the day, just check the benchmarks dude... the X1900 GT beats the 7900 GS almost every time.
As far as the 7600 GT/X850 XT, they're pretty much even.
i dont know really which one is better, im gonna find out because i just boguht the 7600gt and my bro just bought an x850xt 9when i say just i mean last week).. but i dont have it yet (my bro is in the states and im in chile.. like 10,000 miles away), i guess i'll find out, i bought the BFG 7600gt for $115 on newegg.com (after rebate)
I see some 7600 gt's on tigerdirect.com that have higher core and mem speeds and 256 bit bus and 12 pipes etc would they be much faster than the x850xt it should be.
Not exactly on today's game, because the X850XT has 16 pipeline vs 12. Overall these VPU will be about equal in performance overall on a 20 games test.
Like I said, maybe you shoul have longer term purchased in mind and get the 7600 anyway.
I'm inclined to agree that right now the 7600GT is the card to go for. It'll use less power than any of the other cards advised as it doesn't require PCI-e power connections directly from the PSU, it'll suffice itself with what it gets from your mobo. Hopefully this should make your PSU live a little longer.
The 7900GS is about the same price as the x1900GT. The x1900GT is a better card than the 7900GS, so I take back my earlier advice and, if you're willing to spend a little extra, I advise a card based on this chipset.
If you can spend a little extra then go for an x1900XT which has 48 pipelines instead of 36 and twice the memory. The x1900XT is a bit more money, but it is true that you get what you pay for.
If you want to spend more money now, get a really decent card and it'll last you a good, long while. The 7600GT is about the same power as a top-end 6800 card. I use a 6800 card and it plays all the games I currently own. I don't own Oblivion but nothing will play that flawlessly...yet. In a couple of years it will seem stupid to consider Oblivion tough work for a GPU. I remember wishing I had a Pentium (1) 90MHz and an extra 8Mb of RAM so I could play Wing Commander 3 nicely. Nowadays that's a joke, so judging by that, perhaps you should spend less now, get the 7600GT, be happy with the money you've saved, wait a while and what's now top-of-the-line (x1950XT-X) will be mid-range - magic!
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