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It's Time to Welcome Tom's $10,000 PC!

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September 18, 2006 8:21:54 PM

The entry forms are still coming in, and one lucky reader will be taking home the most impressive computer system we have ever had in our labs. Hitting the $10,000 mark and going beyond, this Falcon Northwest machine is loaded to the hilt and licensed to thrill!

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September 18, 2006 8:41:45 PM

Not trying to start any flaming but I am still really pissed off that I didn't get the chance to win this because I'm not in the US. I understand why it was done this way, but seeing the PC in all of its glory just makes me pissed off all over again!
September 18, 2006 8:51:49 PM

Would it piss off a lot of the people if I won it and just used it for spare parts... I would toss out the mouse and keyboard, get the new Microsoft Ultimate keyboard, strip out the mobo, put in a P5W-DH, get two X1950XTX, and sell the 7950GX2's and the P5N32-SLI mobo... I'm actually not a big fan of the Temjin case, but I'll keep it just for the work they spent on it =)
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September 18, 2006 9:08:23 PM

Oh great, here we go again with the "US only" rants. I do think TOMs should post an explanation why they have to only offer this to the US residents. I'm quit sure there's a very good reason and I can think of many. The main reason of course being that the US rules...

Just kidding...I had to. It's probably for tax, legal or have something to do with the agreement with Falcon since they're probably footing a part or most of the bill. Let us know TOMs, or people are going to start arguing again. World War 3 could result...
September 18, 2006 9:32:54 PM

Quote:
That's nice, but why US only?

You did the ".com.com" again :lol: 


As again we the rest of the world wait but...

I've been here for almost 10 years. Just lurking arround.
I've started in the Internet with an 56k dial-up modem.
I'm from one of the oldests countries of Europe - Portugal was founded in 1148.
I speak - more or less - good English
I know your test labs are in Germany

I'M NOT AMERICAN, I'm Portuguese, European, member of the EEC, so why can't I cast my submition?
September 18, 2006 9:39:53 PM

2 bad it is only for usa
September 18, 2006 9:55:40 PM

mine may not be worth $10,000... but it's a close relative
September 18, 2006 10:10:12 PM

Quote:
That's nice, but why US only?

You did the ".com.com" again :lol: 


LMAO, didn't even see that when I clicked on link.
September 18, 2006 10:16:00 PM

Quote:
Would it piss off a lot of the people if I won it and just used it for spare parts... I would toss out the mouse and keyboard, get the new Microsoft Ultimate keyboard, strip out the mobo, put in a P5W-DH, get two X1950XTX, and sell the 7950GX2's and the P5N32-SLI mobo... I'm actually not a big fan of the Temjin case, but I'll keep it just for the work they spent on it =)


If you win I will be so PISSED!


I so want to win this PC... I hit toms Site daily and can't get the thing out fo my head!!!!

How are we top be sure our entry is in? I mean it says I have entered but I want to be 100% sure I am in the running for this bad boy :) 
September 18, 2006 10:33:29 PM

In case your wondering why it is US only, I might have an explanation.

Falcon Northwest is a United States system builder. (still doesn't explain why they can't ship to canada).
September 18, 2006 10:35:08 PM

they shipped to me... im in canada
September 18, 2006 10:44:03 PM

Oh, well, then ignore that last comment.
September 18, 2006 10:55:05 PM

Where do we enter to win it?

Best,

3Ball
September 18, 2006 11:17:52 PM

Maybe they should make a $10k US contest, a $2000 Canadian contest, and a $10k EU contest. That way they could just set up different rules for each one (if that is the issue). We do have contests here in Canada, so I'm pretty sure they could find a way to run one up here. Although a $2k PC? Might be better if us Canadians could just go for an X6800 and 2 x1950xtx CF, or even a gift cert.
September 18, 2006 11:28:55 PM

nvm im an idiot!

Best,

3Ball
September 19, 2006 12:10:21 AM

10k? I totalled it up and got about 7-8k max even if you bought all the parts seperately at internet retail prices..

And I'm surprised they used 6400C4 memory... I'd have guessed they could get their hands on the 6400C3 at least, even if they can't get the 1111Mhz (pc2-8888) stuff yet...
September 19, 2006 12:13:16 AM

i would be very happy to win it. :D 

but if i did win it. it would probably
take a lightingstrike or my house would burn down
after a week :cry: 
September 19, 2006 12:15:11 AM

well dont forget about the custom paint and other stuff :lol: 
September 19, 2006 12:18:03 AM

Hmmm if we let anyone out side the US play it increases the chances of that rig falling into the hands of the enemy. You know North Korea wants to get their hands on that computer for their missle program. Plus Kim Jong loves a good game of CS online but his TRS-80 anit up to the challenge. :wink:
September 19, 2006 12:41:29 AM

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Hmmm if we let anyone out side the US play it increases the chances of that rig falling into the hands of the enemy. You know North Korea wants to get their hands on that computer for their missle program. Plus Kim Jong loves a good game of CS online but his TRS-80 anit up to the challenge. :wink:


Gotta love that ASCII art, man.
September 19, 2006 1:19:06 AM

when is the drawinG?
September 19, 2006 2:32:57 AM

I will give you one example why a lot of contests are US only or country specific. In the example of this system... the final cost is around $11,500. If you were a resident of Canada, the import tarriff would be 30% of that. So when you wanted to pick it up from Customs you would have to hand then over $3,000 US. I am not sure our Canadian readers would want to do something like that.

When you look at other countries it can be even worse. It is not easy to run a contest in all of the countries that Tom's Hardware Guide can be accessed from. I personally hate the fact but when you are constrained by rules and regulations like the condition that our Canadian friends have, please don't get angry at us, contact your local politician.
September 19, 2006 2:40:09 AM

well they obviously couldnt find a sponsor to handle the shipping cost... coz the budget they have was only for an overpriced pc... and tom's is too much of a penny pincher to handle such cost... or its only the US audience that are much appreciated...
September 19, 2006 3:12:58 AM

BWAAAHAAAJHAAAA

BWAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAA

$10k???????

BWAHHHAAHHHAHHAHHHHAAAAA

The cabling job is subrate, I mean it looks like a cable is folded and then zip tied.

Zipties???? BWAAAHAAAHAAAAAA

For this price there should be dedicated wire holddowns

The sleeving doesn't even terminate into the powersupply

BWAAAHAAHAAAAAAA


A 40mm fan on the chip???

BWAAAHAAHHAAAHAAA

No Internal lighting???? ROFFFFLES

3 hard drives???? BWAAHAAHAAHAAAHAAA


Wheww let me slow down. I almost tinkled in my pants..

Other than that I really like it:) 
September 19, 2006 3:12:59 AM

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I will give you one example why a lot of contests are US only or country specific. In the example of this system... the final cost is around $11,500. If you were a resident of Canada, the import tarriff would be 30% of that. So when you wanted to pick it up from Customs you would have to hand then over $3,000 US. I am not sure our Canadian readers would want to do something like that.

When you look at other countries it can be even worse. It is not easy to run a contest in all of the countries that Tom's Hardware Guide can be accessed from. I personally hate the fact but when you are constrained by rules and regulations like the condition that our Canadian friends have, please don't get angry at us, contact your local politician.


This is very true. I've even read that when a Canadian wins a car on The Price Is Right, more often than not, they end up declining the prize because of the taxes they have to fork over to customs upfront.
September 19, 2006 3:31:17 AM

Quote:
BWAAAHAAAJHAAAA

BWAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAA

$10k???????

BWAHHHAAHHHAHHAHHHHAAAAA

The cabling job is subrate, I mean it looks like a cable is folded and then zip tied.

Zipties???? BWAAAHAAAHAAAAAA

For this price there should be dedicated wire holddowns

The sleeving doesn't even terminate into the powersupply

BWAAAHAAHAAAAAAA


A 40mm fan on the chip???

BWAAAHAAHHAAAHAAA

No Internal lighting???? ROFFFFLES

3 hard drives???? BWAAHAAHAAHAAAHAAA


Wheww let me slow down. I almost tinkled in my pants..

Other than that I really like it:) 



May god be with u

September 19, 2006 3:47:37 AM

I'd love to have it just for the monitor even. Shoot, right now I am gaming on either an intergrated Intel GPU or an ATI 9200SE, so, this thing would absolutely blow me away, I'm sure (working on a new build now). Man, what a dream.....
September 19, 2006 4:06:48 AM

yeah, too bad my pc is better, i got the Falcon Northwest X, got 4 cored 4 duos x8600, an x-fi fatal1ty, its friggin fast, crossfired x2950xtx, windows vista, 8gbs ddr2 1600, the cpu's are overclocked at 5.9ghz each, 2 x WD 150gb raptors in raid 0, and then another 2 x WD 150gb raptors in raid 0, it runs oblivion at about 150fps outdoors at 1600 x 1200.. counter strike usually hits about 500 fps, oh and the monitor is the apple 50".. i also got an infocus projector that emits 5000 lumens, its friggin sweet, it also runs bf2 at about 250-300 fps, the x2950xtx are tight, i mean 256 pixelpipelines and 512 pixelshaders is pretty tight i guess, not to mention the 2gb on board gddr6 memory opperating at 3ghz.. let alone the core that runs at a stunning 2ghz.. its pretty cool. pwnes pretty much everything out there, heck it pwns my ps3, and the best part is that it didnt cost me a penny






















i wish
September 19, 2006 4:16:03 AM

sorry, can't afford the income tax :?
September 19, 2006 4:18:45 AM

Quote:

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>> No Internal lighting???? ROFFFFLES



Internal lighting? wtf for? To find the cup-holder? Apart from anything else the case doesn't have a window (which is to its credit) so it would be pretty redundant to have lighting inside.

All those LED fans and stuff are for pimps. Real men don't have computers that look like a cross between a fish tank and a disco.

My PC's case looks like a piece of old crap, not an LED to be seen but its got it where it counts.
September 19, 2006 4:51:15 AM

Quote:
BWAAAHAAAJHAAAA

BWAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAA

$10k???????

BWAHHHAAHHHAHHAHHHHAAAAA

The cabling job is subrate, I mean it looks like a cable is folded and then zip tied.

Zipties???? BWAAAHAAAHAAAAAA

For this price there should be dedicated wire holddowns

The sleeving doesn't even terminate into the powersupply

BWAAAHAAHAAAAAAA


A 40mm fan on the chip???

BWAAAHAAHHAAAHAAA

No Internal lighting???? ROFFFFLES

3 hard drives???? BWAAHAAHAAHAAAHAAA


Wheww let me slow down. I almost tinkled in my pants..

Other than that I really like it:) 


Idiot, what internal lighting is good for if the damn case is not translucent? And what's wrong with 3 hard drives? 2 Raptor 150 GB and 750gb? If you can do a better job then post some pics, otherwise, STFU. Prolly you are drooling all over yourself but keep denying it and the flaming the computers price.
September 19, 2006 6:12:46 AM

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yeah, too bad my pc is better, i got the Falcon Northwest X, got 4 cored 4 duos x8600, an x-fi fatal1ty, its friggin fast, crossfired x2950xtx, windows vista, 8gbs ddr2 1600, the cpu's are overclocked at 5.9ghz each, 2 x WD 150gb raptors in raid 0, and then another 2 x WD 150gb raptors in raid 0, it runs oblivion at about 150fps outdoors at 1600 x 1200.. counter strike usually hits about 500 fps, oh and the monitor is the apple 50".. i also got an infocus projector that emits 5000 lumens, its friggin sweet, it also runs bf2 at about 250-300 fps, the x2950xtx are tight, i mean 256 pixelpipelines and 512 pixelshaders is pretty tight i guess, not to mention the 2gb on board gddr6 memory opperating at 3ghz.. let alone the core that runs at a stunning 2ghz.. its pretty cool. pwnes pretty much everything out there, heck it pwns my ps3, and the best part is that it didnt cost me a penny






















i wish
I want one too. I'll swap you for my Barton 2500+, 1GB Corsair value ram DDR 400, FX 5700 256MB, all sitting on a crappy cheap Asus mobo. :D 

Don't know why they started a thread again. People are just gonna flame again about the ONLY USA thing. I wouldn't mind entering but if I can't, too bad. You don't see me rushing to a gunshop or something...
September 19, 2006 7:40:39 AM

In fact, they aren't forget to give cup holder. They give 2 cup holders. Nice mark cup holders, plextor and Sony. Well i have 3 cup holders in my rig.

:tongue: wuahhahahahaha....hahahahaha....ha....hahahaha....haaa....

500GB storage ?
wua hahaha...ha....ha....ha....ha.....hahahahaha....
Seagate provide 750 GB, slam it with 2 then you got 1.5TB, that will shut me up. At this time...still...wua hahaha....ha....hahahah....hahaha.... :tongue:

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The spec sheet looks good, but the performance was even better. While the world's best overclockers could have pulled out some incredible numbers, this is a configuration you could purchase with a three year warranty in case anything should go wrong.

3 YEAR WARRANTY !!!!! wuahahahah....hahahah....hahaha.... :tongue:
Seagate have the balls to give 5 years Warranty. wuahahah...ha....hahaha....hahah....

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This system incorporates the best hardware available into one kick-butt system, and is up for grabs... so get registered today.

US RESIDENTS ONLY !!!!!!!!!
I'm so PIIIIIISSSSSEEEEEDDDD right now.
September 19, 2006 8:02:22 AM

Falcon NW will happily ship to AUS....

Thank heavens my Mum is still in the US though, I used her addy in my 'vote'. So I guess I'll have to pay the extra shipping...

Probably not, this is likely to be quite a huge lottery, with a fair chance of some 'rigging' going on. Not that THG would do that, but one has to wonder sometimes.

No clue why it is for 'US residents only'. Shipping costs? Tariffs? Did anyone read the 'fine print'?
September 19, 2006 9:21:59 AM

They can give us a check for 10,000$ !!!!! :x
September 19, 2006 9:49:54 AM

I wouldn't whinge.... But then, they've got this ultra-uber PC on their hands.... Oh well, I guess Tom himself would have to crate it back to Germany and live with it. Better me than he, but Hey!
September 19, 2006 10:01:30 AM

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Idiot, what internal lighting is good for if the damn case is not translucent?


I was talking about a service light.

And look at the specs again Mr Magoo. It says a 500 gig hdd not a 750. 500 gig hdd can be had for <190. Surely with a 10k budget they could throw in a couple more.
September 19, 2006 10:03:43 AM

Don't see a drawing date anywhere. Surely that's important 8)
September 19, 2006 10:21:06 AM

Hmm... Anybody know of any oil-resistant fish? Just a thought...
September 19, 2006 10:48:32 AM

Quote:
That's nice, but why US only?

You did the ".com.com" again :lol: 


As again we the rest of the world wait but...

I've been here for almost 10 years. Just lurking arround.
I've started in the Internet with an 56k dial-up modem.
I'm from one of the oldests countries of Europe - Portugal was founded in 1148.
I speak - more or less - good English
I know your test labs are in Germany

I'M NOT AMERICAN, I'm Portuguese, European, member of the EEC, so why can't I cast my submition?

Caro amigo sofro do mesmo mal
i've seen all the contests, very cool stuff, but i can't submit that makes me sad :( 
September 19, 2006 11:58:22 AM

But Toms started out in germany right....
September 19, 2006 1:12:37 PM

They forget their childhood already.
September 19, 2006 1:37:00 PM

quit your whinning girls . . . its obvious why its a US only dig, thats because its a write-off for falcon, and you NEED to be a US citizen for them to do so.

Just incase your tiny brains cant wrap around the idea of a tax write off, it basicly means they get $10,000 clear and free from thier tax season.

It also means the winner pays out the a$$ for it in taxes, which if i recall correctly is a 50% gift tax.
September 19, 2006 1:44:41 PM

I'm sure if you work out a deal with the US government in the form of around $8000 canadian, they'll let you participate (because thats how much winnning this would cost you as a US citizen) . . .
September 19, 2006 2:02:53 PM

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10. PRIZE VALUE (TAX RESPONSIBILITY): Prize may not be transferred or assigned. No substitution of prize may be made, except by TGP, who reserves the right to substitute a prize in whole or in part with another prize of comparable or greater value. Winners are solely responsible for all federal, state, and local taxes and other fees associated with prize receipt and use and will be required to provide his/her Social Security number for tax reporting purposes. TGP will file where required an IRS Form 1099 with the Internal Revenue Service for the approximate retail value of a prize. The approximate retail value of the prize as of the publication of these Official Rules is $10,000.
September 19, 2006 2:41:09 PM

Quote:
quit your whinning girls..

STFU...go to your Mama...
September 19, 2006 2:43:21 PM

What's the point of winning something... if you have to pay for it in the end. I never understood that, in the states you win the lottery... you have to hand over what 30%? Wth, it's nice being Canadian where if you win the lottery it's all yours. Your government must really be poor to need tax from lottery winnings.

As for taxes on my system... I have yet to incur the cost... but it's nothing I can't handle, I still think it's ridiculous. Why should I have to pay taxes on property that in the place of construction there is no tax at all?!?! What a screwed up system that is.
September 19, 2006 3:04:09 PM

I just tried to enter the contest and I got a message stating:

Quote:
You have previously voted (code 1).


Does that mean it didn't take my entry? I just read the article today and hadn't tried to sign up before so I don't know what the problem is but sure don't want to mis sthe chance at this beast.
September 19, 2006 3:59:15 PM

keep yer bloody $10 pc yer commie hating blokes. I'll build me own fer cheaper, GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
September 19, 2006 4:07:15 PM

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What's the point of winning something... if you have to pay for it in the end. I never understood that, in the states you win the lottery... you have to hand over what 30%? Wth, it's nice being Canadian where if you win the lottery it's all yours. Your government must really be poor to need tax from lottery winnings.

As for taxes on my system... I have yet to incur the cost... but it's nothing I can't handle, I still think it's ridiculous. Why should I have to pay taxes on property that in the place of construction there is no tax at all?!?! What a screwed up system that is.


I'd rather have my current 'dinky' system, atleast it only cost me $800usd, and is payed for. I think if I participated in this drawing, and I won, I'd probably part the system out, and sell what I didnt want, to cover the $3000-$5000 taxes involved in wining it. The monitor seems pretty nice, other than that, there is nothing I couldnt do without.

[EDIT]

On a side note, I'd like to add, that I've been to your country, and it is much, much poorer, by comparrison.
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