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pschmid   09-21-2006 at 06:08:28 PM

Diamond Multimedia and Viking are back in graphics. We secured Radeon X1900XTX graphics cards from both vendors to see how they stack up.

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mat347   09-21-2006 at 07:37:15 PM
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Diamond is back?!? I recently built a 98 box using Diamond Monster II 3D's in SLI with a Viper 550 for 2D. Good to see them back in the business!

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gm0n3y   09-21-2006 at 08:59:58 PM
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What is the point of this article? It's cool that Diamond and Viking are back making video cards, but the article basically says they are just X1900XTXs made by different companies. This could just have been a news item stating the same.

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prozac26   09-21-2006 at 09:19:43 PM
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Never heard of 'em...

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mad_fitzy   09-22-2006 at 11:08:21 AM
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There werent any benchmarks?

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neocristi   09-22-2006 at 12:18:14 PM
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Is this a comercial article?

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prozac26   09-22-2006 at 12:46:37 PM
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How fun, rebranded BBA cards with PCB made in Sapphire's factory.


Maybe they were RMA'd ? :lol:

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Dr_asik   09-22-2006 at 05:40:22 PM
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Hahaha, prozac, you avatar is great :lol:

I just noticed it :P

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MAIA   09-22-2006 at 08:12:33 PM
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To go back to my days of economics, this effect is considered an increase of supply, as there are similar choices that yield similar utility (enjoyment) for the buyer. This, coupled with new high-end products, drives the price of cards down, which is further accelerated by increased competition.



But in reality this is not what happens. In fact, i remember the radeon 9800 days when they were top performers. One could get a pro version for no more than 400 $. Nowadays, a top perfomer costs more when released (between 500 and 600 $). You can argue about investment in new techs and research, but i don't get why GFX prices inflate more than 20% in less than 3 or 4 years ...

MAIA

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Cleeve   09-22-2006 at 08:25:35 PM
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But in reality this is not what happens.



I would argue otherwise...

Yes, more expensive options are available, but at the same time there are very powerful options at the $100 price point... the X800 GTO and 7300 GT GDDR3 are excellent examples of this.

Today, you can get a $100 card that performs really, really well.

In the days of the 9800 PRO, you had to spend at least $200 for something like a 9600 XT or 5900 XT that would be powerful enough to do a decent job of gaming. Everything under $150 was total garbage.

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MAIA   09-22-2006 at 08:33:38 PM
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That is true, and i surely agree. But my whole point has to do with top performers. It is a fact its price has inflated as a result of certain marketing policies.

MAIA

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Cleeve   09-22-2006 at 08:44:04 PM
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I see your point, and I agree with you about the top performers being overpriced, to be sure.

But when the next-to-top tier is so excellent and cheap, I still see it as very positive.

You can get an X1950 XTX for $400, or close to 90% of that card's performance with an X1900 XT 256mb for $240. To me, that's incredible value for the buyer.

Then again, those prices and relative performance is similar to the 9700 PPRO/9500 PRO back in the day... maybe the more things change, the more they stay the same. :)

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GeneticWeapon   09-23-2006 at 01:42:10 AM
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I couldnt agree with you more Cleeve. When I ordered my X1900GT for $220 dollars, I remembered back a couple years ago when I paid the same amount for my 9500Pro. We get a lot more horsepower these days for the money.

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pauldh   09-23-2006 at 02:52:24 AM
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Still have your $200+ 9500 pro? I have mine. That little midrange gem sure spanked the R8500 it replaced. But current bargains just seem much better. Remember back to when 6800U and X800xtpe were the kings. The $200-240 range didn't buy you crap in comparison to today. The 6800GT hung in near $400 for so long, the X800XT was more than that, and then I lucked out on a $350 AR 6800U.

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Cleeve   09-23-2006 at 05:21:21 PM
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I still have my 9700 PRO. Still plays the games on my secondary machine when I have a buddy over for gaming and never dissapoints.

Truly, the longest video hardware has remained practically usable in the history of gaming cards...

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