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Hello, I'm Ghalk. This is my sad story:
 
About 2 or 3 months ago my old computer went BOOM!
It's been 3 months and I dont have a new computer yet, because I want to be sure and buy the best computer I can get with the 2.2k $ I got...
 
yea, 3 months w/o computer...
 
 
 
I think I'm pretty ready to shoot myself now.
 
But well o well, I think is time for me to finally decide, and get a home-build PC all togheter.
 
I've been doing my homework; research and research and researh and more researh and more research all day and night since the last week (from a friend's laptop)... my head is about to make BOOM as well any time soon now.
 
... yesterday I dreamed a Seagate HD was eating me alive.
 
So, I don't have all the pieces of my new Mecha-Keanu Reeves 2.2k $ gaming computer defined yet, but with the ones I got... well, I got doubts, and I hope you tech junkies help me... cause this is too much work for a single man.
 
So, here I pressent to you, the one and only, the amazing:
 
 
            -=Mecha-Keanu Reeves 2.2k $ Gaming PC ver.BETA 0.9=-
 
Processor: Core 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz                                             330 $
Motherboard: Asus P5N32-Sli SE Deluxe                                220 $
RAM: Corsair XMS2 2,024 (2x 1,012) MB 6400C4                   340 $
Sound Card: X-Fi SoundBlaster Fatal1ty                                 200 $
Video Card: Asus GeForce 7950GT 512 MB                            350 $
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750                     220 $
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB SATA II         110 $
 
So far, missing monitor, optical drives and everyhting else:    1,770 $
 
 
Since I don't have the rest of the computer figured out yet,
I will ask help on these parts only (yet).
 
Sooo... what you guys think?
And about some of the components I just mentioned, I have some specifical questions:
 
1. RAM: should I get the dominator 8500C5D instead of the 6400C4?
2. Video Card: 7950GT 512MB... Asus or XFX?
3. Hard Drive: FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SEAGATE OR WESTERN DIGITAL????? FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Hrmph, yes, sorry I lost control for a moment there on that last question... but really, seagate barracuda or WD caviar? which one is quiet? which one is faster? which one is cooler? pleas, oh please, hear my plea... I really don't want to buy one and when it gets here realise I just bought something that's loud like a 16-weeler.
 
Please, Oh thee tech junkies, hear my plea.
 
 
 
EDIT: gramar

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for the graphics don't get the 7950GT, you can get a    
 
SAPPHIRE  Radeon X1900XT 256MB for $250 and for $100 less that is much better performance by far...if you really wanted to spend $350 then you can get a SAPPHIRE  Radeon X1900XT 512MB both perform way better than the 7950GT...quite a bit better actually...
 
as far as the HD this goes mostly on personal experience...i would choose the seagate because its one of the fastest hd out with its perpendicular recording technology(7200.10)
 
as far as your mobo i would go with a Asus P5B Deluxe, it will allow you to overclock much better and Sli is a waste of money unless you game at 1900x1200 resolutions or higher, even the x1900xt 512mb will be able to handle most games with ease, except oblivion  
ther rest of the system looks good, i would recommend a Samsung 204B for a monitor, not sure how much your looking to spend on it, or you could go with a Dell 2007FPW which is much more expensive but is just plane awesome monitor)  
 
optical drives are like 50 bucks so just pick one...
 
for the ram do not get the dominator, its just marketing hyper, that ddr2-800 w/ 4-4-4-12 timings will work well in your system, especially if you want to overclock or even so if you don't  
 
if you take my recommendatiosn you'll save some money and be able to overclock more, if anything the 965 chipset could allow you to upgrade to quad core in the future, where as i doubt the nforce chipset would allow..

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Sorry to read of your woes dude, 3 months cold turkey huh that's gotta suck, but 2.2k$ to play with hmmm  I question your choice of graphic card why not 2x7900gt or x1900xt the Ati win's all the benchies at the moment and 2 79's will probably be quicker than 1 7950 and then there's the HDD I like barracuda's but the western digital raptor spins @ 10,000rpm nuff said I know bugger all about Intel CPU's so I'm not gonna comment on that or your mobo/memory choice/options but what about a Samsung SATA DVD\RW just to keep things tidy in the case it has no performance benefit whatsoever, that's my tuppence worth chucked in I wish you well and good luck with your build. 8)

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Ok, answers:
 
1. RAM: The Dominator RAM isn't worth it, not with a C2D platform.
2. Video Card: 7950GT 512MB... No. Get a X1900XT like stated above.
3. Hard Drive: Seagate.
 
I'd say: Get the ASUS P5B Deluxe, much better option for a C2D than a P5N32-SLI. You'd get the ability to upgrade to a Core 2 Quadro anytime (with a BIOS update, maybe).

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and what about a P5W DH Deluxe instead of the P5B?

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It's also a nice choice, but older chipset, though.
 
I'd feel more comfortable getting a P965-based mobo, it'd be more "future proof".

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even better, it uses the 975x chipset which has greater overclocking potential...
 

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Sorry to read of your woes dude, 3 months cold turkey huh that's gotta suck, but 2.2k$ to play with hmmm I question your choice of graphic card why not 2x7900gt or x1900xt the Ati win's all the benchies at the moment and 2 79's will probably be quicker than 1 7950 and then there's the HDD I like barracuda's but the western digital raptor spins @ 10,000rpm nuff said I know bugger all about Intel CPU's so I'm not gonna comment on that or your mobo/memory choice/options but what about a Samsung SATA DVD\RW just to keep things tidy in the case it has no performance benefit whatsoever, that's my tuppence worth chucked in I wish you well and good luck with your build. Cool


 
first of all he is talking about a WD Caviar, not a raptor and just because the raptor spins at 10Krpm does not mean nuff said, the perpendicular recording on the new seagates matches the performance of the raptors in almost all benchmark all the while giving a much better price/gb...

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Is that a south park reference???

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I've found an article for you comparing the P5W DH and P5B Deluxe.
 
With the new Catalyst 6.9, ATI has introduced Crossfire support for the P965 chipsets. So, both of them are pretty much even.
 
Also the latest BIOS releases for the P5B Deluxe enables the ability of reaching an insane FSB beyond 500 MHz and unlocked multipliers. Here is an article of AnandTech about it.
 
It's up to you.  :wink:

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I think im going this way then:
 
Processor: Core 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz
 
Motherboard: Asus P5B Deluxe (yea, the P965 chipset sounds more appealing... and now that that ATI drivers abble this MoBo to support crossfire, and since im getting a X1900XT, this think this is the way to go.)
 
RAM: Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4 800mhz 4-4-4-12
 
Sound Card: Creative X-fi Fatal1ty
 
Video Card: Sapphire x1900xt 512mb (should i go crossfire edition?)
 
Power Supply: P&C Silencer 750W
 
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320 GB SATA II (hope its a quiet HD)
 
Optical Drives: I think im going a nice expensive (200 bucks) SATA II Plextor as main drive, and then a Sony DVD/CD ROM for simultaneous burning, what do you think?
 
I still need to figure out many things, like case, monitor, speakers, cooling, etc... but anyway, I guess most part is done, ty all for the advice rest easy knowing it will be applicated.
 
If you think there's something else i should know you r welcome to post it, I will surelly read it.
 
TY all again.
Ghalk.
 
 
 
EDIT: south park reference? mmm, i dunnom i thought i had just invented it :p

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SATA Plextor drive? Are you sure you need such an expensive beast?

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what would you recommend instead?

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I think im going this way then:
 
Processor: Core 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz
 
Motherboard: Asus P5B Deluxe (yea, the P965 chipset sounds more appealing... and now that that ATI drivers abble this MoBo to support crossfire, and since im getting a X1900XT, this think this is the way to go.)
 
RAM: Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4 800mhz 4-4-4-12
 
Sound Card: Creative X-fi Fatal1ty
 
Video Card: Sapphire x1900xt 512mb (should i go crossfire edition?)
 
Power Supply: P&C Silencer 750W
 
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320 GB SATA II (hope its a quiet HD)
 
Optical Drives: I think im going a nice expensive (200 bucks) SATA II Plextor as main drive, and then a Sony DVD/CD ROM for simultaneous burning, what do you think?
 
I still need to figure out many things, like case, monitor, speakers, cooling, etc... but anyway, I guess most part is done, ty all for the advice rest easy knowing it will be applicated.
 
If you think there's something else i should know you r welcome to post it, I will surelly read it.
 
TY all again.
Ghalk.
 
 
 
EDIT: south park reference? mmm, i dunnom i thought i had just invented it :p


 
Since when can the 965 chipset support crossfire? i'm pretty sure only the 975x chipset supports crossfire...
 
as far as i know if you want crossfire you have to go with the 975x chipset.  
and regardless of how much better the 965 chipset has been with the new bios for the asus, the 975x still has much more stable overclocking ability

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mmm, im having a hard choice picking on the motherboard
 
 
P5B Deluxe or P5W DH Deluxe...
P965 chipset vs 975X chipset...
newer chipset vs older, more experienced chipset
 
 
I thought i would like the newer chipset better, but from all i've heard the 975X chipset is the one that allows crossfire (but accordingly to multiplectic a couple posts above, the new sapphire drivers allow crossfire on the P965 chipsets as well now)
 
But even that way, apparently the P5W DH is a much more popular of a MoBo than the P5B Deluxe, even if they are very simmilar.
 
I do want to get crossfire in the future, and update to quad core as well if possible... according to asus, the P5W DH Deluxe will be compatible with the future multi-cpu processors, and most people seem to own and recommend the 975X chipset MoBo insetad of the P965 one, even if everyone says they are both equally good quality and performance... but since most people do recommend the P5W DH Deluxe (975X) above the P5B Deluxe (P965), I think im getting the P5W DH Deluxe instead... so many people cant go wrong. :D
 
Thanks for the help on the MoBo issue, i think im going P5W DH Deluxe (975X), but if you want to say anything else above the MoBo issue youre more than welcome to gomme advice.
 
TY all,
Ghalk.

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i just noticed the anandtech article about the crossfire support, the reason why everyone would go for the p5w is because the p5b was the in the same price range, so there was no point to get the p5b when you could get the p5w, but with new bios coming out and higher overclocks being reached with the p5b if you can get the p5b deluxe for a cheaper price point then go for it...

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P5B Deluxe: 194 $ at newegg
 
P5W DH Deluxe: 249 $ at zipzomfly
                         269 $ at newegg!!! (OMG THE HUMANITY) they ran out of the normal version so they only have the Wifi AP version avaliable atm, which cost 20 bucks more.
 
Being P5B able to support crossfire now, and having the P5B only 1 PCIe x1 slot less than the P5W, I guess the final and only question left is the next one:
 
I know P5W will support Quad Core processors... but will P5B suppport them as well??
 
Ty.

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I think I'll go with the P5W DH Deluxe, even if it costs 50$ more.
 
I've decided I want to be sure that my new MoBo supports Quad Core, something sure to happen on the 975X chipset, but not so sure on the P965 chipset.
 
Besides, even if the new drivers and BIOS allow the P5B to support Crossfire and higher OCing, that's something the P5W always had, w/o the need of a BIOS improvement. Just raw chipset.
 
The 975X chipset based MoBo just appear to have more advantages than the P965 based one. Yes, I know, it costs about 50$ more... but I've decided I would gladly pay 50$ extra bucks for a "higher quality" MoBo (with greater OCing power, higher upgrade cappable, and a built-in crossfire support) that's sure to support the future Quad core processors.
 
If you think I may be mistaken, please tell me so.
 
Love,
Ghalk.

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...
 
on the other hand......
 
im not going quad core cpu...
 
not even crossfire....
 
and if im going to overclok my rig, is not gonna be by much...
 
SO WTF DO I CARE ABOUT THE 975X CHIPSET???
 
 
 
im getting the P5B Deluxe Mobo then instead... maybe the P5W has lots of other stuff, but is stuff im not gonna use and / or need, and i can save myself 50 bucks

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Out of the 7200.10 and the Caviar, get the 7200.10.
 
Why? 5 year warranty.

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Ok here goes because I don't necessarily like what I am hearing for recommendations across the board.  The x1900xt was a great recommendation.  Get two hard drives dude.  Get a raptor as your primary and get a seagate as your secondary.  I always get two.  Makes it nice when you have shit that you don't wanna lose!  Very important.  The raptor will surprise you man spinning at 10000 rpm, you won't find another drive that will do that.  I would personally get the 74 gig edition.  I know what you are thinkin, oh but its only 74 gig, I need a 100000000000