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September 22, 2006 1:57:07 PM

Ok here is my current system.

ASUS A7N8X Socket A (Socket 462) NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 ATX AMD Motherboard

SAPPHIRE Radeon 9600 Pro Advantage 100562 Radeon 9600PRO 256MB DDR AGP 4X/8X Video Card

AMD Athlon XP 2500+ Barton 1.833GHz Socket A Processor Model AXDL2500DLV4D - OEM

Approx 1.3gb Corsair Memory...PC3200.

My wife has upped the odds by bying a new desktop for herself (yes, it is a compaq system 3gh etc...). And of course I HAVE to have the fastest system in the house :p 

Of the first three items listed, what can I do to make my system faster/better ? Keep in mind that I have to go the cheapest route possible

Should I replace the chip with a faster chip.. if so which chip ? Or do both chip and mobo ? if so which should I get..

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September 22, 2006 2:26:06 PM

Yeah your stuff is looking pretty dated like my PC before I built my Conroe build. How much $ are you willing to spend?
September 22, 2006 2:57:57 PM

I have the deluxe version of that MB and running a 2400+. My budget won't allow for a new computer until the end of next year or beginning of 2008. If the XP 3200+ were dirt cheap, I'd say get it. But since you can get a new AM2 motherboard and a 3800+ for cheaper, it'd be foolish to get a 3200+ which is exactly why I haven't upgraded. Depending on the 3GHz CPU, the XP3200 might be better but I highly doubt it.

You'd be able to salvage the memory is you went S939 but I'd go for at least an AM2 system or save a little more money and get a C2D E6300.

Price on DDR2 memory has currently gone through the roof which is another reason to wait.

Btw, what video card does your wife have? You might be able to have the fastest graphics system if you get a different video card. Take a look here and notice that the worse card reviewed is a 9600XT which is better than your 9600Pro. I have the 6600GT and notice how much it smokes even the 9800Pro.

If you can find a cheap 6600GT or other AGP video card with the same or equal performance, this would be your best single cheap upgrade to your computer.
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September 22, 2006 3:32:23 PM

You have alot of options, what kind of money do you consider cheap?
Well, aleast be happy that she bought her own instead of messing up yours....(if I could just get my wife to do that)
September 22, 2006 3:40:20 PM

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Overclock that 2500 barton. Change the fsb to a 400 (200) instead of the 333 (166) and you have an instant 3200+. Some boards will even read it as such.


If the guy knew how to do that, do you really think he'd be posting here? OCing is more likely to screw this guy's computer up, not improve it. Of course, if he overclocks it and breaks it, he'd need to buy a new computer anyway, then he could buy something faster than what his wife has. Maybe that is good advice then.
September 22, 2006 3:43:14 PM

Cheap = 500 or less :D 
September 22, 2006 4:14:08 PM

if cheap is $500 or less than you have a pretty good budget for an upgrade to a newer system.

Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681... - 134

Core 2 duo 6300 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681... - 183

1gb gskill ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682... - 119

7600gs
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681... - $88

total: $524

and that my friend is a computer that is much better than your wives computer.
September 22, 2006 4:19:32 PM

Hey hey... lets use our brains here. You want a better computers than your wife... its very simple. All you need is a screwdriver, and about an hours worth of time. Next time your wifes asleep or gone, go to her computer, open it, and take out all the parts. Replace them with your computer parts, except for the hdd. Cover up your tracks as well as you can, make sure the computer boots correctly with the correct drivers.

Bam, instant win for you.

Otherwise, wait till you get some more money, and instead of getting a computer better than hers, get one twice as good as hers...
September 22, 2006 4:38:41 PM



Is my suggestion.
Then throw in a DX 10 video card in a year from now.
=)
Includes old ATA interface your your old drives and pci if you have any cards you still want to use.
Knowing her video card would be useful but this will do everything with ease.
September 22, 2006 4:42:10 PM

I suppose the question is "better" at what... gaming? encoding? video editing? The distribution of the $500 could be modified to focus on a task. Although, it probably wouldn't be difficult to upgrade for $500 that is better at everything if the specs of the Compaq were known.
September 22, 2006 5:02:35 PM

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Cheap = 500 or less :D 

Eviltwin17 and Will14 said it perfectly, (I really need to read all of the comments before I reply) :oops: 
Sorry I digressed... Swap CPU and add RAM or GPU...
September 22, 2006 7:08:06 PM

'cough' I do know how to overclock.. I just don't like to do it..
a b B Homebuilt system
September 22, 2006 7:31:18 PM

If you want UBER-cheap, newegg is giving away free motherboards with AMD 3400+ CPU's (socket 754 unfortunately, but better than socket A!) @ $99. Pair that with a newer video card and you could easily whip your wife's Compaq.

Or, like one of the posters above suggested, crack open her case and steal all of her RAM and replace it with a single 128MB stick. :wink:
September 22, 2006 7:34:09 PM

754=/pciX AFAIK.
Don't bother for that unless your going for budget only.
Such as an auxillary computer.
September 22, 2006 7:35:27 PM

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Ok here is my current system.

ASUS A7N8X Socket A (Socket 462) NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 ATX AMD Motherboard

SAPPHIRE Radeon 9600 Pro Advantage 100562 Radeon 9600PRO 256MB DDR AGP 4X/8X Video Card

AMD Athlon XP 2500+ Barton 1.833GHz Socket A Processor Model AXDL2500DLV4D - OEM

Approx 1.3gb Corsair Memory...PC3200.

My wife has upped the odds by bying a new desktop for herself (yes, it is a compaq system 3gh etc...). And of course I HAVE to have the fastest system in the house :p 

Of the first three items listed, what can I do to make my system faster/better ? Keep in mind that I have to go the cheapest route possible

Should I replace the chip with a faster chip.. if so which chip ? Or do both chip and mobo ? if so which should I get..

you can show her who owns the dick in the house, no matter whose computer is faster... hahaahah

seriously, you can get a socket 939 board, with some X2 and use your current memory. Buy some midrange pci-e video card and your computer will be faster
a b B Homebuilt system
September 22, 2006 7:45:45 PM

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754=/pciX AFAIK.
Don't bother for that unless your going for budget only.
Such as an auxillary computer.


Agreed.

If $500 is really the budget, it would be very easy to go s939, AM2, or C2D. It's too bad RAM prices are approaching RAPE levels. RAM now adds $150-$200 to a DRR-to-DDR2 MoBo upgrade. A 7600GT would be a nice upgrade while you're at it.
September 22, 2006 7:47:32 PM

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'cough' I do know how to overclock.. I just don't like to do it..


8O 8O

So you know how to be the top dog but choose not to....yet you don't like it...but you ask us for help to accomplish something that would do the same thing as what OCing would do...

My head hurts.
September 22, 2006 8:30:49 PM

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Overcock that 2500 barton. Change the fsb to a 400 (200) instead of the 333 (166) and you have an instant 3200+. Some boards will even read it as such.


With wife and two PCs at home it is hard and ready to overcock .. so let it be!
September 27, 2006 8:44:56 PM

Gaming machine.
September 27, 2006 10:27:42 PM

Ahh, a gaming machine.

In which case, go with Will14's build (C2D is faster but more expensive, and you won't notice the difference in games)

But get a better graphics card - say a 7600GT. Or get a X1900XT and only buy 1GB RAM for now and buy more later when RAM prices come down to decent levels again.

Toms has done the hard work for you on the graphics card front here: http://tomshardware.co.uk/2006/09/26/the_best_gaming_vi...
September 28, 2006 10:55:22 AM

Correct me if I'm a dong, but doesn't the ASUS A7N8X have two RAM slots? How did you get that amount of RAM in there? 1GB and 256MB?
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