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which is better? p4 805 d or amd 3700+

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September 24, 2006 5:13:04 AM

Which is better? p4 805 d or amd 3700+, I plan buying a new cpu soon. I know the p4 is a dual core cpu and the amd 3700+ is a single core.

Between these two, which would be better for encoding video and multi tasking at the same time. I would assume the 3700 cpu will be faster in single thread apps, but I want to be able to use the computer while encoding, thanks for any help I get.

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September 24, 2006 5:21:39 AM

The 805D would be a better bet for your application.
September 24, 2006 5:55:31 AM

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September 24, 2006 6:07:03 AM

Stay on target here man.
To the original poster, the PD 805 will be better for what you plan just like what evilroot said and unless you overclock you don;t really have to worry about excessive heat or any of that.
September 24, 2006 7:26:15 AM

805D would be better in more programs than 3700+. Its faster at DivX certanly.
Conroe would be a far better buy.
Are you buying a new system or just upgrading? Are you overclocking?
September 24, 2006 7:35:35 AM

Not all boards support conroe though
September 24, 2006 8:18:30 AM

For encoding and very little else the D805 wins hands down.
But over all the 3700+ is the better CPU.
If you’re using the computer for much more than encoding you will be disappointed in the performance of the D805 unless overclocked.
Pcmark scores high and divX scores higher with the Smithfield dual core.
Take a good look at the charts before you make the jump.
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1...
Multi tasking is the only other benefit I can think of that is noticeable between the two.
September 25, 2006 1:48:36 PM

Thanks for all the reply's, I know that 3700 is better at most things but i really want a dual core for multi tasking, I would prefer a 3800+ x2, but it is out of my price range, I do very little gaming on my pc. Is more programs going to take advantage of dual coresin the future? is the 805 more future proof?, and this is a new system. thanks
September 25, 2006 2:33:39 PM

It's not how future proof the CPU is you should worry about - but more how future proof the motherboard is... If you do go for the 805 make sure you get a motherboard that can also support core2duo for some time in the future, Asrock do a range of very cheap core2duo compatible motherboards. Something like the Asrock 775Dual-VSTA http://www.asrock.com/PRODUCT/775Dual-VSTA.htm will support everything you can chuck at it, and is very cheap...
September 25, 2006 2:36:57 PM

What exactly is your price range?
September 25, 2006 7:13:36 PM

Umm, first of all in general THe pentium D 8xx series, is complete crap, Hot as hell, slow as hell, and power hogs. But if you are considering the 805 overclock I suppose that would run better than A stock 3700.

Intel will have the upperhand in encoding etc. however I honestly suggest an E6300, If it is out of the price range wait, it would be worth a month of waiting easy, and once again you have some better future proofing.
September 25, 2006 7:14:39 PM

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Umm, first of all in general THe pentium D 8xx series, is complete crap, Hot as hell, slow as hell, and power hogs. But if you are considering the 805 overclock I suppose that would run better than A stock 3700.

Intel will have the upperhand in encoding etc. however I honestly suggest an E6300, If it is out of the price range wait, it would be worth a month of waiting easy, and once again you have some better future proofing.


There will NOT be price cut for C2D family in October.
September 25, 2006 7:20:09 PM

I neither said that, nor implied that, I meant wait until you can afford it. lol

I just checked newegg could you shell out 30 more for a Pentium D 915? $128 w/free shipping,

There also is an X2 3800 in the Oem section for $137 however you would have to purchase a HSF combo most likely. If you do buy the 805 or the 3700 I suggest buying them OEM and taking the extra money and buying a third party HSF, at least for the 805, which is just soooo much hotter than it is fast.
September 25, 2006 7:25:06 PM

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I neither said that, nor implied that, I meant wait until you can afford it. lol

I just checked newegg could you shell out 30 more for a Pentium D 915? $128 w/free shipping,

There also is an X2 3800 in the Oem section for $137 however you would have to purchase a HSF combo most likely. If you do buy the 805 or the 3700 I suggest buying them OEM and taking the extra money and buying a third party HSF, at least for the 805, which is just soooo much hotter than it is fast.


I live in Hong Kong.
I can buy a x2 3600+ for ~US$120. :D 
September 25, 2006 7:27:04 PM

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I neither said that, nor implied that, I meant wait until you can afford it. lol

I just checked newegg could you shell out 30 more for a Pentium D 915? $128 w/free shipping,

There also is an X2 3800 in the Oem section for $137 however you would have to purchase a HSF combo most likely. If you do buy the 805 or the 3700 I suggest buying them OEM and taking the extra money and buying a third party HSF, at least for the 805, which is just soooo much hotter than it is fast.


I live in Hong Kong.
I can buy a x2 3600+ for ~US$120. :D 

2x256K L2 cache?? It's a dual-core Sempron :lol: 
September 25, 2006 7:29:45 PM

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2x256K L2 cache?? It's a dual-core Sempron :lol: 


The "Sempron" x2 3600+ can kill PD-915 :lol: 
September 25, 2006 7:39:08 PM

You're basing this off of what?
September 25, 2006 8:30:54 PM

Thanks for the info I was wondering what you meant by "Sempron 3600". I tried looking for benches for comparison and I couldn't find any. Thanks for the correction.
September 25, 2006 8:33:36 PM

Read the above post jackass.
September 25, 2006 8:36:27 PM

D805. It so terribly owns the 3700 in multithreaded encoding applications it's not even a valid comparison. You'll need an FX-57 to keep up with an 805 in multithreaded apps.
September 25, 2006 8:59:07 PM

Damn, I am jealous, newegg treats me right though.
September 25, 2006 9:01:32 PM

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Damn, I am jealous, newegg treats me right though.

But it is a Socket AM2 part.
September 25, 2006 9:02:05 PM

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D805. It so terribly owns the 3700 in multithreaded encoding applications it's not even a valid comparison. You'll need an FX-57 to keep up with an 805 in multithreaded apps.


You're biased because you own a D805. Nonetheless, the 3700+ is only 400MHz away from being an FX57; their core, cache, architecture, and everything else are the same. Aside from the price, of course :lol: 
September 25, 2006 9:05:59 PM

You just dropping a question for you, not for any piss offing purposes. Have you noted much difference between AM2 and 939? BTW sorry about the way my first post to you came out.
September 25, 2006 9:14:53 PM

ahh, I didn't give that a close look, my bad. you might be able to find the 939 version though.
September 25, 2006 9:20:43 PM

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You just dropping a question for you, not for any piss offing purposes. Have you noted much difference between AM2 and 939? BTW sorry about the way my first post to you came out.


Once I noticed that, I recognized I have made a mistake.

By the way, there are no more Socket 939 parts selling in Hong Kong now. :cry:  :( 

Nevermind. :wink:
September 25, 2006 9:21:37 PM

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ahh, I didn't give that a close look, my bad. you might be able to find the 939 version though.


I think Athlon x2 3600+ is a Socket-AM2-part only. :( 
September 25, 2006 9:23:22 PM

yeha, I kinda misunderstood lol, I thought he was saying the x2 3800 I pointed out on newegg was an AM2 so this guy couldn't use it, now I understand what's going on, it was all about the 3600 sorry for the confusion
September 25, 2006 10:46:46 PM

Its all good
September 26, 2006 12:34:47 AM

thanks guys for all the help, im not buildig the comp, in buying oem for a church to do video dvds, not really for games, too bad i cant find any 3600 x2 oem systems out there.
September 26, 2006 1:15:55 AM

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thanks guys for all the help, im not buildig the comp, in buying oem for a church to do video dvds, not really for games, too bad i cant find any 3600 x2 oem systems out there.


If that's the intended use, then get a Dell Dimension C521 for $310 (US Dollars) with the following specs:
- Sempron 64 3400+ (socket AM2)
- 512MB DDR2-533
- 80GB SATA HDD
- DVD Drive
- Windows XP Home

If you need a monitor, you can get a 17" CRT for another $50, or a 15" LCD for another $130. If the system is only going go be used for watching DVDs, then you don't need a dual-core CPU.
September 26, 2006 1:18:27 AM

I don't think Do video DVD's mean's

watch video dvd's but I could be wrong, I mean otherwise they could get a dvd player at target for 69.99
September 26, 2006 3:05:36 AM

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I don't think Do video DVD's mean's

watch video dvd's but I could be wrong, I mean otherwise they could get a dvd player at target for 69.99


In that case, get a DVD burner for anothre $60.
September 26, 2006 4:23:51 AM

I think he mentioned something about multi tasking encoding and whatnot, but who knows
September 26, 2006 4:38:19 AM

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D805. It so terribly owns the 3700 in multithreaded encoding applications it's not even a valid comparison. You'll need an FX-57 to keep up with an 805 in multithreaded apps.


You're biased because you own a D805. Nonetheless, the 3700+ is only 400MHz away from being an FX57; their core, cache, architecture, and everything else are the same. Aside from the price, of course :lol: 

:lol:  If this isn't the pot calling the kettle black. Unlike you, I actually use my computer for video encoding. When he asks what CPU to buy for video gaming, you can give him your expertise. :wink:
September 26, 2006 10:52:48 AM

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D805. It so terribly owns the 3700 in multithreaded encoding applications it's not even a valid comparison. You'll need an FX-57 to keep up with an 805 in multithreaded apps.


You're biased because you own a D805. Nonetheless, the 3700+ is only 400MHz away from being an FX57; their core, cache, architecture, and everything else are the same. Aside from the price, of course :lol: 

:lol:  If this isn't the pot calling the kettle black. Unlike you, I actually use my computer for video encoding. When he asks what CPU to buy for video gaming, you can give him your expertise. :wink:

Unlike you, my computer isn't a recycled Dell Dimension 4500 :lol:  . Mine's a recycled HP m1050y (CPU and mobo fried; I replaced those, along with the case and PSU).
September 26, 2006 1:27:59 PM

It's too bad your mobo fried. I sold my old Dimension board and 2.4GHz P4 for $150. My upgrade cost me less than $20. :D 
September 26, 2006 4:48:44 PM

Sorry for the typo, I meant is taking video taped church events encoding them to DVD format, i hope this is clear enough, thanks
September 26, 2006 5:36:01 PM

Well i went to the dell website and i can get a dell 3800x2 for $549 is that a good price?, i can get a 805 d for $10 less from another vendor with similar specs. im not a big fan of dell, decisions decisions
September 26, 2006 6:09:37 PM

If you're buying OEM, go with the Dell that has the X2 3800 over the Pentium D 805 from the other competitor. The X2 is much, much better than the D 805.
September 26, 2006 6:36:35 PM

The Dell AMD models come with the Geforce 6150 onboard gfx chip - that is actually not that bad - will run older games just fine... And can run Vista Aero interface and has 'pure video' software for high def video..

Steer clear of anything that uses an Intel gfx solution - they are really really bad
September 27, 2006 4:34:24 AM

Thanks, I think I will go with the Dell, they have the cheapest x2 3800, ive seen, thanks everybody