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September 24, 2006 5:06:59 PM

Hi everyone,

I'm going to be buying a new videocard in the next few days and was wondering do you think i should go for an xfx 7600 gt for 150 or an MSI x1800gto for 180. Do you think its worth the extra 30 bucks for the x1800gto?

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

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September 24, 2006 5:33:05 PM

I say go with MSI X1800GTO...it`s better.
take a look at here and here.
as you can see in the Need For Speed Most Wanted the X1800GTO perform better than 7600GT.
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September 24, 2006 5:35:25 PM

eVGA 7600GT: $133 after rebate
or
BFG 7600GT: $114 after rebate

eVGA and BFG are widely regarded as better brands than XFX. I'd probably go for the BFG one, as it's $21 cheaper. The X1800GTO is too expensive for what it is; an X1800XL missing 4 pixel pipes. If you want to drop $200 on a video card, then this HIS X1900GT is a much better choice than the X1800GTO for $20 more. For $35 more than that, you can get this Sapphire X1900XT 256MB, which will thrash all those cards.

X1900XT > X1900GT > 7600GT > X1800GTO
September 24, 2006 6:14:28 PM

Spend the extra $20 and get a X1800XT, you'll be a lot happier.
September 24, 2006 6:19:07 PM

Spend $50 more and get a better card. or better yet $100.
I'm sorry, I'm tired of people suggesting better and better cards. Yes, they are better cards but spend on what you actually use the card with. You can always buy a better card later down the road. If you want a better card and you can afford it Cheers.

If I stepped on anybody's toes. Im sorry. Just want people not to spend too much on what they don't need.
September 24, 2006 6:43:39 PM

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Spend the extra $20 and get a X1800XT, you'll be a lot happier.


I hate to break it to you, but the $200 X1800XTs have dried up.
September 24, 2006 7:03:52 PM

I would pick the 7600gt. Its better in the benchmarks, and is cheaper.
September 24, 2006 7:16:26 PM

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I would pick the 7600gt. Its better in the benchmarks, and is cheaper.


And it's a very very good overclocker!
September 24, 2006 7:17:19 PM

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I would pick the 7600gt. Its better in the benchmarks, and is cheaper.


And it's a very very good overclocker!

Then he HAS to chose the 7600gt :lol: 
a b U Graphics card
September 24, 2006 7:41:14 PM

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Hi everyone,

I'm going to be buying a new videocard in the next few days and was wondering do you think i should go for an xfx 7600 gt for 150 or an MSI x1800gto for 180. Do you think its worth the extra 30 bucks for the x1800gto?

Any recommendations would be appreciated.


Be aware of the 7900GS, its about the same price as an expensive 7600GT, so it will push their prices down soon. (yes I know that prices will always be dropping, but this will probably be happening about now, although it might have already happened for you).

You could therefore use EVGA's Step-up to help you make use of this price drop, or you could wait for a week. The 7900GS overclocks very well from what I understand.
a b U Graphics card
September 24, 2006 8:00:21 PM

The X1800GTO is as good an overclocker, possibly better(more powerful at max OC) than the 7600GT. Problem is, at $180 the x1800GTO is within range of the faster X1900GT. I'd never spend $180 on a GTO when the X1900GT is much faster for $20 more: Take your pick, old or new:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...


But the 7600GT can be found alot cheaper than these other cards offering great bang for the buck: Factory OC'ed for $115
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

or even the 560/1400 clocked GTS for $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...


Anyway, IMO the best under $250 gaming buys come down to sub $125 for a 7600GT or X850XT, $200 for a X1900GT (or X1800XT if still found), or $240 for a X1900XT 256MB. At current prices(online in USA) cards like the X1800GTO, 7900GS, 7900GT just don't make sense, being either too expensive(X1800GTO) or just outgunned for the same price(7900GS & GT).
September 24, 2006 9:19:36 PM

Thanks for all the replies guys.
I think im gonna get the xfx 7600 gt xxx edition on newegg for 144 bucks because i don't think i wanna spend the extra 35 bucks for the x1800 gto when the 7600 gt wins in alot of the benchmarks.
September 25, 2006 2:21:26 AM

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Thanks for all the replies guys.
I think im gonna get the xfx 7600 gt xxx edition on newegg for 144 bucks because i don't think i wanna spend the extra 35 bucks for the x1800 gto when the 7600 gt wins in alot of the benchmarks.


Forget XFX; BFG is both more reputable (widely considered the best brand for nV cards) and cheaper.
a b U Graphics card
September 25, 2006 11:31:34 AM

While normally I look at the the good names and cheap eVGA and BFG prices and totally agree with you, the XFX he is looking at is beastly clocked at 590/1600. Quite a big leap over the BFG 580/1450 OC, or the reference 560/1400 for someone who wants to just install and run it at boxed speeds.
September 25, 2006 9:08:58 PM

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While normally I look at the the good names and cheap eVGA and BFG prices and totally agree with you, the XFX he is looking at is beastly clocked at 590/1600. Quite a big leap over the BFG 580/1450 OC, or the reference 560/1400 for someone who wants to just install and run it at boxed speeds.


The XFX card has 2GB/s more memory bandwidth. I wonder how they can get the VRAM to run at 1.6GHz without heatsinks on all the chips? Reminds me of the 7900GT issue :roll: .
September 25, 2006 9:18:18 PM

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I wonder how they can get the VRAM to run at 1.6GHz without heatsinks on all the chips? Reminds me of the 7900GT issue


It's still debatable wether or not RAMsinks are more show than go. Lots of tests I've seen show RAMsinks to be practically useless.

As for the 7900 GT, that was probably a core overclock issue, with insufficient voltage and stress-testing at those overclocks, IMHO...
September 25, 2006 9:19:47 PM

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While normally I look at the the good names and cheap eVGA and BFG prices and totally agree with you, the XFX he is looking at is beastly clocked at 590/1600. Quite a big leap over the BFG 580/1450 OC, or the reference 560/1400 for someone who wants to just install and run it at boxed speeds.


The XFX card has 2GB/s more memory bandwidth. I wonder how they can get the VRAM to run at 1.6GHz without heatsinks on all the chips? Reminds me of the 7900GT issue :roll: .

Vram usually doesnt run hot, unless it cant take much heat but it never feels hot or something.
a b U Graphics card
September 25, 2006 10:08:54 PM

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I wonder how they can get the VRAM to run at 1.6GHz without heatsinks on all the chips? Reminds me of the 7900GT issue


It's still debatable wether or not RAMsinks are more show than go. Lots of tests I've seen show RAMsinks to be practically useless.

As for the 7900 GT, that was probably a core overclock issue, with insufficient voltage and stress-testing at those overclocks, IMHO...

I have read the same thing about RAMsinks. As for the 7900GT, surprisingly alot of folks on eVGA's huge 10 page tally of bad 7900's claim that the card ran perfectly when massively underclocking the mem. Who knows, just glad I never joined that brotherhood. I can't tell ya how peeved I'd be to pay return shipping 3-4 times and still get a bad card. Especially if it was for a customer with my rep and their patience on the line. 8O
September 25, 2006 10:56:36 PM

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I wonder how they can get the VRAM to run at 1.6GHz without heatsinks on all the chips? Reminds me of the 7900GT issue


It's still debatable wether or not RAMsinks are more show than go. Lots of tests I've seen show RAMsinks to be practically useless.

As for the 7900 GT, that was probably a core overclock issue, with insufficient voltage and stress-testing at those overclocks, IMHO...

I have read the same thing about RAMsinks. As for the 7900GT, surprisingly alot of folks on eVGA's huge 10 page tally of bad 7900's claim that the card ran perfectly when massively underclocking the mem. Who knows, just glad I never joined that brotherhood. I can't tell ya how peeved I'd be to pay return shipping 3-4 times and still get a bad card. Especially if it was for a customer with my rep and their patience on the line. 8O

I have a question for you: In your siggy, why do you list the X1800XT as "New for Oblivion", when you've had it (seemingly) forever?
a b U Graphics card
September 25, 2006 11:08:12 PM

LOL, Lazy....I never bother to update my siggy. :roll:

I bought the X1800XT specifically because the 6800U and 7800GT dissapointed me in Oblivion. So once it was installed and I was enjoying the Oblivion boost, I updated my siggy. The current rig but with the 7800GT never even made it in the sig.

But I'll snap to it and update it just for you. :wink:
September 25, 2006 11:09:29 PM

It shouls say: "Old for Oblivion" :lol:  :roll:
a b U Graphics card
September 25, 2006 11:16:03 PM

Yeah, or "Temporary until after G80/R600 face off". :wink:

I'm open to whichever will give me more bang for the buck, but for some reason I suspect R600 might give more bang but both will cost too much buck for me (for quite a while anyway). :cry: 
September 25, 2006 11:18:22 PM

It'll suck totally if cards are very highly priced. Then you'll be stuck with that crappy X1800XT for quite some time. :tongue:
September 25, 2006 11:26:03 PM

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It'll suck totally if cards are very highly priced. Then you'll be stuck with that crappy X1800XT for quite some time. :tongue:


X1800XT? Crappy? Let's not even start on your X1900GT! As you very well know, GT is only one step above SE in ATI's ranks, whereas XT is top of the line.

LOL; I'm just screwin with you.
September 25, 2006 11:27:48 PM

Yea, X1900GT is only couple fps slower than a X1800XT, yea, real crap. :roll:


:wink:
September 25, 2006 11:27:50 PM

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LOL, Lazy....I never bother to update my siggy. :roll:

I bought the X1800XT specifically because the 6800U and 7800GT dissapointed me in Oblivion. So once it was installed and I was enjoying the Oblivion boost, I updated my siggy. The current rig but with the 7800GT never even made it in the sig.


I already know that story. What did you do with the 6800 and 7800?

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But I'll snap to it and update it just for you. :wink:


You're far too kind, sir.
September 25, 2006 11:29:35 PM

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Yea, X1900GT is only couple fps slower than a X1800XT, yea, real crap. :roll:


:wink:


And my X600 is only a couple FPS slower than your X1900GT (I wish :lol:  ). It all depends on your definition of "couple".
September 26, 2006 12:43:19 AM

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And my X600 is only a couple FPS slower than your X1900GT

Yea, a couple thousand :lol: 
September 26, 2006 12:53:55 AM

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And my X600 is only a couple FPS slower than your X1900GT

Yea, a couple thousand :lol: 

You must be talking about the 3DMark score :tongue:

So what? Synthetic benchmarks mean nothing!
September 26, 2006 1:21:19 AM

I wasn't talking about some stupid number given to you by some program that doesn't mean jackshit.
a b U Graphics card
September 26, 2006 1:41:25 AM

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What did you do with the 6800 and 7800

Still have both up and running in spare systems. I did however rob all the best parts to keep in what I consider my gamer.
September 26, 2006 11:19:34 AM

Depends on what you call crappy :oops: 
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