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September 26, 2006 2:31:30 AM

everyone, my cpu's gonna blow, it is using a stock cooler

e6600 stock thermal paste.

i added a drop of new arctic silver 5

the case temp is ambient open case

first build 10 years old

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September 26, 2006 2:41:56 AM

oh yeah, on a p5b deluxe
gotta do hw
September 26, 2006 3:11:04 AM

why is nobody replying?
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September 26, 2006 3:21:58 AM

That shouldnt be.
Does the stock HSF have thermal tape? If so and you used grease it'll run hot.
Wierd for a Conroe to run that hot. Your gonna fry it.
September 26, 2006 3:36:03 AM

no thermal tape
September 26, 2006 3:37:09 AM

Just stop using it right away and RMA it.
September 26, 2006 3:39:09 AM

Are you really 10 years old??
September 26, 2006 3:55:51 AM

Hmmm methinks you shouldn't have added that drop of AS5 on top of that stock thermal paste. It's just my first guess though.

Maybe you should get an Arctic Articlean kit and do the whole thing again... I mean, redo the thermal paste thing. With just a tiny bit of AS5.

Just thinking. Should be a cool CPU...
September 26, 2006 3:57:07 AM

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why is nobody replying?


Because you smell like a wusy trolling
September 26, 2006 4:11:28 AM

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why is nobody replying?


Because you smell like a wusy trolling
:lol: 
That makes me happy!

You still owe me an appology and an explanation of exactly how you claim I was spreading fud
September 26, 2006 4:23:18 AM

Is your fan spinning? Are you sure it's 82C and not 82F? (I'm not trying to make you feel stupid but it never hurts to make sure, you know?) Take off the HS, completely clean it, and the processor (make sure you know what you're doing) and try again.

If that doesn't work, RMA it.
September 26, 2006 4:35:29 AM

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Is your fan spinning? Are you sure it's 82C and not 82F? (I'm not trying to make you feel stupid but it never hurts to make sure, you know?) Take off the HS, completely clean it, and the processor (make sure you know what you're doing) and try again.

If that doesn't work, RMA it.


I hoped... The temps in F is 177

And will the P5B auto OC trash the warranty?

I'll be 11 in a month
September 26, 2006 4:37:31 AM

I dont get how every single thread i've read online about conroe temps say that people have been getting the highest readings with CoreTemp because it measures inside the chip or whatever. For me, CoreTemp has always been the lowest reading by far. Asus Probe II shows 41 C right now. Core Temp 31-32. this is all stock settings. if i OC to 333 fsb, probe goes to 48 and Core Temp reads 37 to 38.
September 26, 2006 4:38:57 AM

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Fine, you weren't spreading cold hard FUD... But the FUDness is there, just. :p 

Anyway, I just saw a case in XS forum where one user reports CoreTemp readings being drastically abnormal from TAT and the vice-versa for TAT in another case.

So yeh, time to change the temp readings intructions in my guide (yet again). This time with both TAT & CoreTemp running then picking the more consistant one.


There was no fudiness there. Cold, hard, or soft warm and wet. I wasnt spreading fear or doubt. I was reporting my experiance and making a recommendation based on that. I still dont see where your getting this. I mean, It not like I was running my mouth saying "4x4 will rule kentsfield all....mark my words, you'll see. I know I invented 4x4"

Now that aside, there were some things I wanted to talk to you about, trying to isolate the problem with Core Temp.

When you were running Core Temp, were you running it simultaniuosly with TAT?

Were you running it with any other Temp monitoring programs?

The reason I went looking for other progs was that I didnt trust PcProbe. MBM and Hmon agree with it though. Now, what is interesting, is when I run Core Temp simultaniuosly with PCProbe, PCProbe will "spike" momentarily up to 264"C from time to time. Clearly this is wrong. MBM and Hmon dont seem to have a problem with this. This implies to me that the 2 progs are interferring with each other somehow. TAT does not seem to interfer with PCProbe. (another reason I tend to distrust Core Temp)

So, I am thinking that perhaps, the other progs are interfering with Core Temps sensor polling cycle, or vice versa. I could explain why my readings are apparently jacked up.
September 26, 2006 5:08:13 AM

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I've seen screenshots of TAT and CoreTemp running togather... don't think there's any interference there.

I'm suprised MBM5 is still able to read the sensor chip on your board. I guess it used one that already existed in its database. My advice, don't use it. (Even though I'm a die-hard MBM5 fan and use it for older mobos)

SpeedFan + CoreTemp/TAT, that's an intresting one because people will be using that combo in my guide. Can you please test that? Thanx

ASUS's PCProbe=blind man shooting rifle or it does the same calculation as what SpeedFan used.


Coretemp and Asus probe are really close on my e6600 system, within 1-2 C, and the coretemp is always updating, and the Asus is set for every 5 seconds.

Idle and load (prime 95)
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September 26, 2006 5:33:11 AM

ASUS probe has always had problems with interference. Speedfan, everest, everything - they all cause occasional spikes or dips, and sometimes the reading is "N/A" for a few seconds. I got 73C on my e6600 within 30s of dual prime95 with stock cooler and no OC. Definitely try removing the HS and giving it a good clean (as well as the cpu) and then apply some AS5 to the cpu. I use a piece of plastic to make a nice even thin spread on the surface of my cpu. I dont trust a blob in the centre to spread out nicely and evenly. And I certainly didnt trust the pitiful junk that was on the cooler originally.
September 26, 2006 6:10:45 AM

Ok,

I had to add something for the new system builders in the crowd. Won't call you nubz, cause we all were at one time or another. If you don't know what you're doing, plz plz plz read the documentation! There are so many on-line quality guides with pics. Maybe AS5 website would have been a great place to start. NEVER apply AS5 to the HS that still has the original thermal grease on it. That defeats the whole purpose and could possibly could cause AS5 to leek out damaging your MB and CPU (I know far-fetched but wouldn't that be ugly, might be a nice fireworks show too.)

Don't turn on your computer until you...You can, but 80+ C is ridiculosly high and in danger of damaging components). Not to mention almost smells of Troll-fry.

1. Remove your Heat sink.
2. Clean both HS and CPU carfully with isopropyl alcohol or acetone and a bit of careful rubbing. Do not use nail polish remover (you can but have to be careful what type you use, best left not recomended)
3. FOLLOW the guide on how to reapply AS5. here
4. Re-seat your HS carefully, following the directions provided. Take your time a lot of people mess up here and don't know why their temps get so high.
5. If your temps still read in the 80's you might try the process again from step 1 or RMA, as a 80+C Conroe is pretty much going be useless anyway.

Good luck and have fun. Take your time.
September 26, 2006 6:20:16 AM

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I've seen screenshots of TAT and CoreTemp running togather... don't think there's any interference there.

I'm suprised MBM5 is still able to read the sensor chip on your board. I guess it used one that already existed in its database. My advice, don't use it. (Even though I'm a die-hard MBM5 fan and use it for older mobos)

SpeedFan + CoreTemp/TAT, that's an intresting one because people will be using that combo in my guide. Can you please test that? Thanx

ASUS's PCProbe=blind man shooting rifle or it does the same calculation as what SpeedFan used.



Temps for Core Temp and TAT still about the same, and in this case, right at a 10'split. I ran Speedfan with them. Afer about 8 minutes I started PcProbe to see if it would cause any changes in TAT, Cote Temp or Speedfan. No changes, but I did get the recuring PCProbe spike again.


September 26, 2006 6:39:35 AM

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Ramp up the clock speed and voltage and you'll see that gap grow quite large.


Hmm. Both the OPs post and yours are interesting. Maybe its apples and oranges, but at stock settings with TAT (since it takes readings from the same sensor as Core Temp) vs MBM/Hmon/PcProbe, I see a fairly consistant 18-20'C split at idle as well as 100% load. Temp increases from idle to 100% were pretty much 1 to 1. This looked perfectly normal to me, based on the fact that TAT was reading from the in die sensor (sorry, Im stuck on the old terms, call me antiquated) while the others were reading on die, and the readings were consistant during the temp changes.
September 26, 2006 8:27:24 AM

I agree. I've seen so much of these temperature tests run on C2D. I wasn't quite sure where this was going when I first was reading your responses turpit. Anyhow, maybe some more data might help you, but I like Wusy's explanation. Here's my tests run similar to yours. Thought I'd do it just for fun and grab my 100th post at the same time.

September 26, 2006 10:54:54 AM

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Is your fan spinning? Are you sure it's 82C and not 82F? (I'm not trying to make you feel stupid but it never hurts to make sure, you know?) Take off the HS, completely clean it, and the processor (make sure you know what you're doing) and try again.

If that doesn't work, RMA it.


I hoped... The temps in F is 177

And will the P5B auto OC trash the warranty?

I'll be 11 in a month

OMG; we have a fifth-grader on the forumz. A cutie wutie widdl fifth grader :lol:  . Awwww

WHAT? HE HAS A NICER COMPUTER THAN ME?!?!

And I thought I was the youngest person on the forumz.
September 26, 2006 12:32:10 PM

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everyone, my cpu's gonna blow, it is using a stock cooler

e6600 stock thermal paste.

i added a drop of new arctic silver 5

the case temp is ambient open case

first build 10 years old

very nice!
you can use your PC to make tea or coffee or as thermal solution in winter.
September 27, 2006 2:23:08 AM

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Here's the thing, if I really took my time into research that, what gain would I(or any other overclockers) get? Absolutely nothing because it doesn't affect actual temperatue nor OC potential one bit.

So, I'm just going to stick to my golden delta-temp rule and as mentioned above, let the user experiment and pick between the two thermal monitors when overclocking.

What I would like people to learn from this thread is:
-In CoreTemp, TCaseMax of 85C is the figure, when reached, is when Intel's stated 60.1C will be reached for actual temperature because beyond that stage the processor will throttle. This is what TM2(Themal Monitor2) was designd for, a trigger at 60.1C and not a monitor. (Both CoreTemp and TAT were designed around TM2, 85C was used for CoreTemp because of compatibility with other processors besides C2D)

-Due to the above reason it's impossible(without external heating) to reach beyond 60.1C (actual temperature) for C2D

-When the same progam is used to measure temperature, multiplier factor is rarely inaccurate(as long as CoreTemp/TAT doesn't malfunction) and so by comparing delta of idle-load is valid. It's why it's used in the C2D OC guide.


Well now, that extremely interesting and, unless Im misinterpreting what you've written, proves Core Temp has a prob as there is no way I should be seeing over 60.1'C (on a Core 2 Duo)

Another curious thing is Hatsurfers results running the exact same monitors I was. PCprobe TAT and Core Temp all show fairly close readings, but Probe should be reading Im sorry, another old term) on die, so it should be lower than either Core Temp or TAT. Of course, it is an E6400, but the rev and step are the same.


4 Hatsurfer, do you know what revision your mobo and BIOS are?
September 27, 2006 3:10:47 AM

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Yep. As I once said a long time ago, today new builders are have such an easy time with modern processor because it's impossible to fry them at stock voltage(I've never seen a case where throttling failed and it can't disabled) and comes with an IHS so you can't crush the core.

Maximum affordable cooling, maximum frequency, that's the rule I follow by.


Yeah, its also going to save manufacturers and etailers a lot of money on exchanges/refunds. No more, "I need a new CPU, the one you shipped me didnt work" as the ham fisted will not be able to fry their CPUs with botched OCing attempts.
September 27, 2006 4:14:56 AM

I hit 85C on my E6300. The first time I used CoreTemp it read:

85C - Shut down processor immediately!

I just ignored it, as other programs had my temp at 63C, then at other times 19C. I figured I had a bad sensor or something. I had disabled thermal throtelling in the bios. When I enabled it, temps did go down a bit.

Turns out my heatsink was not totally on. I reclicked all the posts in and now my temps are normal at 38C at idle and up to 47C after heavy gaming. That would be my advice to those with 80C+ temp readings. 8)
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September 27, 2006 12:22:13 PM

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I dont get how every single thread i've read online about conroe temps say that people have been getting the highest readings with CoreTemp because it measures inside the chip or whatever. For me, CoreTemp has always been the lowest reading by far. Asus Probe II shows 41 C right now. Core Temp 31-32. this is all stock settings. if i OC to 333 fsb, probe goes to 48 and Core Temp reads 37 to 38.


CoreTemp shows 9C for me.. no matter how much I load the Cores it still shows 9C. It's a useless program for hardcore overclockers as the lower reading it will give you is 9C.
September 27, 2006 11:55:14 PM

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I dont get how every single thread i've read online about conroe temps say that people have been getting the highest readings with CoreTemp because it measures inside the chip or whatever. For me, CoreTemp has always been the lowest reading by far. Asus Probe II shows 41 C right now. Core Temp 31-32. this is all stock settings. if i OC to 333 fsb, probe goes to 48 and Core Temp reads 37 to 38.


CoreTemp shows 9C for me.. no matter how much I load the Cores it still shows 9C. It's a useless program for hardcore overclockers as the lower reading it will give you is 9C.

More and more, Im seeing totaly disparate reports of temps from Core Temp. Even wusy admited he saw some recent repots of disparites between TAT and Core Temp.

I do not understand where Core Temp is getting a reputation as an accurate or reliable probgram. The website itself states its a beta program.
Furthermore, looking at the results between myself and hatsurfer (screenshots posted on page 1) running the same programs, the differences between the programs readouts are suprising. Of course, temps are e6600 vs e6400 on asus p5b wd De vs unkown.

Whatever.....ultimately, for any of the temp data thats been comming out----its all kind of meaningless unless accomanied at a minumum by, mobo, mobo rev, bios. Which gives me an idea.........
September 28, 2006 2:07:28 AM

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Well, there's a thread in XS saying CoreTemp is 'buggered' (and a fewer claiming TAT too...) so there's where I came up with the conclusion to pick one of the two(TAT/CoreTemp) to use.

Official CoreTemp Bug Report Forum

[EDITED]I forgot to mention that when CoreTemp and TAT are functioning properly which is most of the time their temperature are always (near 99.9%) within 1C of each other.


Well thats the thing. I cant believe either program is just flat out "broken". With all the varitions in temps we've seen reported (barring the folks who didnt seat their HSF's correctly) there must be a legitimate explanation. Some combo of mobo/cpu/bios revision, a bios flaw, something. Its just a matter of compiling the data and sifting through it.
October 7, 2006 11:26:40 PM

My temps:

From iTAT and CoreTemp
idle
Core 0: 53c
Core 1: 48c

Full load is around 58-62

SpeedFan the numbers are a joke; 28c-35c it obviously reads analog diodes and completely useless if you want to know the true temps.

These numbers are for overclocked e6600 on ga-965p-dq6 rev1 F5 bios
Clocked at 400Mhz FSB @ 1.4500v
Memory Clocked at 5-5-5-15 @1000Mhz with 2.2v (+0.4 as per corsair spec)
CPU Multiplier is set to 8x (3.2 Ghz = 8*400)

Prior to upgrading to F5 bios, I had CPU v. set to 1.4325 and the temperatures read higher(!) - i'm not sure why the sudden drop. I didnt open the case.

The case Antec p180 with sound dampening (it not only dampens sound but retains heat as well)
3 Ninja 120mm fans running at 1300 RPMs
Big Typhoon cooler running at ~800 RPM at load (i think the max for it is 1300)
Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste

The system is running Phantom 500 watt fanless power supply (the fan thats there never kicks in)

Room temperature at 65f

3 Western Digital SATA II drivers (WD-2500KS)
MSi 7900GT video card clocked at 525 Mhz.
I did replace stock video thermal pads with Arctic Silver - didnt do a damn thing as far as NVIDIA temp reader goes.
October 9, 2006 6:03:06 AM

lol... 10 years old my ass
October 9, 2006 4:41:42 PM

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lol... 10 years old my ass


bwahahaha.. you just made me laughing out loud. hahaha :lol: 

btw, beside the AS5 thing, can the boy missintegrated the heatsinkfan so the 80C popped up?
October 30, 2006 12:31:00 PM

in regard to the previous post:

6400 will run much cooler then 6600 - different chip, different cache size.
That cache size is one of the reasons why Alendale will overclock on average much better then Conroe.

my 6600 is OCd to 3.2 / 400 Mhz FSB.

With standard silicon paste: thermal shutdown is guaranteed with TAT within 5 minutes

With arctic silver 5: the system graduates to 79c on TAT/CoreTemp after 20 minutes run and stays there with ambient temperatures of 65F and very well insulated case (sound dampening fabric that keeps the heat in :) )


Standard 100% CPU utilization average is ~62c. (remember TAT is loading up every, or close to, transistor whereas a busy loop will not)

finally, on a GA-965P-DQ6 you got to be very careful as to how you install the cooler. The lid that holds the CPU in the socket doesn't completely line up with CPU topmost surface, therefore, you need to make sure you put enough thermal paste there to accomodate for the gaps that a flat coller plate, larger then the CPU socket, would leave between the CPU and the lid frame.

I know you have ASUS - but check the paste and how tightly the cooler is to the CPU (and NOT the CPU socket frame)
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