Intel's new Netburst architecture promises 10ghz by the year 2007!!!!
I personally take it with a grain of salt. They can make all the claims and promises they want. But until it is done, I won't believe it.
What is the point of 80 cores anyway? Many applications have yet to be optimized for Dual-Core, with the exception of a few games. This may be a good thing in the professional sector, but to consumers it is nothing more than bragging rights.
Never need it? lol... I'll agree with that when I see it. Apparently my system with 640k of ram isn't enough anymore? Why would you ever need more? lol
We already have 2 and 4 cores in 2006 so it could be 8 and 16 in 2007-08, 32 and 64 in 2008-10 and 80 in 2011?
If they are talking about this for the desktop, forget a grain of salt, I'm taking it with a salt lick.
We may have those core but what the heck are we gonna do with them all. Not more than a handful of games use 2 cores right now.and dual core has been out for a year now.
Encode with 40 diffrent encoders, burn with 10 burning programs, run 20 instances of photoshop, have 10 firefox pages with 90 tabs each and have 10 different programing/Autocad process running? Would be kinda useless for running Oblivion...
Hmmm, 80 cores. I'll bet they'll try to make it fit within a given envelope in terms of power requirements. (Most likely the current evelope) Why not leave off at 4 cores or so, but focus on using less power per core? It's what they'll need to do anyway with thier 80 cores. I suppose the actual question is "Do power requirements scale in proportion to the number of cores? The recent article by Tom's looks into the Quad core Intel, and it ate a lot of power, dispersed a lot of heat. will this trend continue into 80 cores?
The recent article by Tom's looks into the Quad core Intel, and it ate a lot of power, dispersed a lot of heat. will this trend continue into 80 cores?
Reeaally?
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In summary, we determined that the Core 2 Quadro requires the same amount of power in no-load operation that the Core 2 Extreme needs at full load. Running at full load, the Core 2 Quadro is at the same level with the old Pentium EE 965. After all, this Pentium version uses 15 W less than the dual-core Pentium EE 840 - and that with clearly enhanced performance thanks to four processors. This is significantly below the TDP limit (Thermal Design Power) of 130 W.
Is that sooo?
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The peak core temperature recorded during the test was 66 degrees Celsius in conjunction with an Intel retail cooler. In contrast, the maximum temperature of the Core 2 Extreme was 43 degrees Celsius
But....
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The maximum temperature of the Pentium Extreme Edition 965 at full load is 79 degrees Celsius.
What the hell do you expect? For it to run at 20C? For it to take only 50W? Tis 4 freakin cores man.
I think everyone is missing the bigger picture with respect to 80 cores... IF Intel can deliver it I am 1,000% positive software will be devoloped to use it ! Imagine a game where every oponent has its own CPU to process AI and physics with ! Its like that movie about base ball (I never seen it but I remember the comercials lol) "Build it and they will come" I sure know I want an 80 core CPU and the software that will run on it. Encodeing video is very predictible and could be divided up between all the cores realy easy ! (I can imagine that it would tear up a 2 hour video in less then 2 minutes....) Go Go Gadget Cyberdine Install !!! lol
Rather obsolete compared to what IBM has aready done with the Opteron core.
" Advanced Micro Devices' Opteron processor is used in supercomputing "cluster" systems that spread computing work across numerous small machines joined with a high-speed network. In the case of Roadrunner, the Cell processor, designed jointly by IBM, Sony and Toshiba, provides the special-purpose accelerator.
"Cell originally was designed to improve video game performance in the PS3 console. The single chip's main processor core is augmented by eight special-purpose processing cores that can help with calculations such as simulating the physics of virtual worlds. Those engines also are amenable to scientific computing tasks, IBM has said. "
http://www.supercomputingonline.co [...] ?sid=11894
Unless you combine the FPU's with a Reconfigureable DATA Cache as described in this IEEE paper you don't gain a whole lot.
http://csdl2.computer.org/persagen [...] figured%22 If you want to see the full paper I have it in PDF and will email it to you. Basicly Intel is going to have to eat crow and go to an IMC to stay competitive with the new IBM tech. IBM's Roadrunner is two generations ahead of Intel. It wasn't by chance that Intlel's Conroe /Woodcrest went 0 for 14 on major DOE supercomputing contracts this year..
Rather obsolete compared to what IBM has aready done with the Opteron core.
" Advanced Micro Devices' Opteron processor is used in supercomputing "cluster" systems that spread computing work across numerous small machines joined with a high-speed network. In the case of Roadrunner, the Cell processor, designed jointly by IBM, Sony and Toshiba, provides the special-purpose accelerator.
"Cell originally was designed to improve video game performance in the PS3 console. The single chip's main processor core is augmented by eight special-purpose processing cores that can help with calculations such as simulating the physics of virtual worlds. Those engines also are amenable to scientific computing tasks, IBM has said. "
http://www.supercomputingonline.co [...] ?sid=11894
Unless you combine the FPU's with a Reconfigureable DATA Cache as described in this IEEE paper you don't gain a whole lot.
http://csdl2.computer.org/persagen [...] figured%22 If you want to see the full paper I have it in PDF and will email it to you. Basicly Intel is going to have to eat crow and go to an IMC to stay competitive with the new IBM tech. IBM's Roadrunner is two generations ahead of Intel.
It wasn't by chance that Intlel's Conroe /Woodcrest went 0 for 14 on major DOE supercomputing contracts this year..
Rigggghhhht.
......And the fact that Conroe has been available for only the last 8 weeks of this year had nothing what so ever to do with Dept of Energy contract awards.
Rather obsolete compared to what IBM has aready done with the Opteron core.
" Advanced Micro Devices' Opteron processor is used in supercomputing "cluster" systems that spread computing work across numerous small machines joined with a high-speed network. In the case of Roadrunner, the Cell processor, designed jointly by IBM, Sony and Toshiba, provides the special-purpose accelerator.
"Cell originally was designed to improve video game performance in the PS3 console. The single chip's main processor core is augmented by eight special-purpose processing cores that can help with calculations such as simulating the physics of virtual worlds. Those engines also are amenable to scientific computing tasks, IBM has said. "
http://www.supercomputingonline.co [...] ?sid=11894
Unless you combine the FPU's with a Reconfigureable DATA Cache as described in this IEEE paper you don't gain a whole lot.
http://csdl2.computer.org/persagen [...] figured%22 If you want to see the full paper I have it in PDF and will email it to you. Basicly Intel is going to have to eat crow and go to an IMC to stay competitive with the new IBM tech. IBM's Roadrunner is two generations ahead of Intel. It wasn't by chance that Intlel's Conroe /Woodcrest went 0 for 14 on major DOE supercomputing contracts this year..
Not attacking you, but where's the objectivity here :?:
