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Well, thanks to the diagnosis of the people here, I was able to catch my the dying fan on my old Radeon 9700 Pro before it was too late. It's been getting worse, I've had to shut the machine down a couple of times because I started to notice some artifacting while playing Oblivion, but nothing too serious. Anyway, the replacement fan came today, but installing it is turning out to be more than I bargined for.

First off, I can't get the old fan to let go of the slot on the board that provides it with power. I think I'm on the verge of ripping the female connecter off of the PCB (or i'm just freaking out). Any suggestions on how to facilitate it's safe removal?

Next Problem. Do I keep the old heat sink? It's a pretty decent looking one I think. Lots of surface area, far more than attaching just the fan would provide. However, I face a few issues with this. I can remove the fan from the pink housing, and I'm left with a unit that just barely won't drop into the slot. The radius of the screw holes from the fan on the new fan is too small to fit, so there is no chance of attaching it that way.

I idea I had was that I could take a knife/file/other tool. and simply cut off the offending plastic pieces, allowing me to drop the fan into the slot, then directly attach the fan to the heatsink with either the provided rubber sticker, thermal tape, or the thermal paste. (thermal paste is an adhesive right? or is it just a conductive goo?)

If I discard the existing heat sink. I'm going to want to mount the new fan directly onto the chip right? The pink housing is susposed to be its own heatsink right? That's why it's completely smooth on the back? I'd have done this already, except I can't figure out how to remove the existing sink. It's held to the PCB by what appears to be two pins that go through the PCB and expand on the other side. There are springs on the pins that I believe are present in order to further hold the thing together. Now, when I attempted to crush the pins back down to size to push them back through the PCB, nothing happened. They didn't compress at all. Do I just need to use more force or something? Could five years of being like that just made them really stiff?

And once I get that off, how do I remove it from the chip? Will it just come off? or will I have to try to unstick it from the chip? What do I use to take off the old thermal paste?

Another problem I'm facing is the power connector. For some strange reason, it has 3 prongs... but there's only wires in two of them. I COULD use the adapter that came with it and hook it up to other power line, or I was thinking of using part of the connector on the old fan and making it into a two prong unit. Then again... I'd probably be better off hooking it to the power supply.

Anyway, here are some pictures. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks guys!

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4825/overviewef9.jpg
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8117/twoprongea5.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2296/fanandheatsinkjb3.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2527/replacementke9.jpg

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I am not sure if that cooler will be able to cool that card....it is more of a geforce 2/3 cooler....

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First off, I can't get the old fan to let go of the slot on the board that provides it with power. I think I'm on the verge of ripping the female connecter off of the PCB (or i'm just freaking out). Any suggestions on how to facilitate it's safe removal?


Should be able to just pull it off.....i say should

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Next Problem. Do I keep the old heat sink? It's a pretty decent looking one I think. Lots of surface area, far more than attaching just the fan would provide. However, I face a few issues with this. I can remove the fan from the pink housing, and I'm left with a unit that just barely won't drop into the slot. The radius of the screw holes from the fan on the new fan is too small to fit, so there is no chance of attaching it that way.


like said above....that cooler will have a hard time cooling it....

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I idea I had was that I could take a knife/file/other tool. and simply cut off the offending plastic pieces, allowing me to drop the fan into the slot, then directly attach the fan to the heatsink with either the provided rubber sticker, thermal tape, or the thermal paste. (thermal paste is an adhesive right? or is it just a conductive goo?)


just a conductive goo....
Also note that the stock fan has more blades(more air) and blows out....so that makes it that much harder to use the vantec one

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If I discard the existing heat sink. I'm going to want to mount the new fan directly onto the chip right? The pink housing is susposed to be its own heatsink right? That's why it's completely smooth on the back? I'd have done this already, except I can't figure out how to remove the existing sink. It's held to the PCB by what appears to be two pins that go through the PCB and expand on the other side. There are springs on the pins that I believe are present in order to further hold the thing together. Now, when I attempted to crush the pins back down to size to push them back through the PCB, nothing happened. They didn't compress at all. Do I just need to use more force or something? Could five years of being like that just made them really stiff?


As said the pinky will not cool it good....but yes...it can be mounted that way...
Your pins look like the ones on the 9800 pro....if so...you pull the center of the pin up(from the heatsink side) and that will allow the holder to be removed...
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3106/pinru1.gif
When the black pin is pressed in it expands that back of the card keeping the heat sink in place...you can get the pin started with a small screw driver....but take your time....dont want to break anything....

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And once I get that off, how do I remove it from the chip? Will it just come off? or will I have to try to unstick it from the chip? What do I use to take off the old thermal paste?


it should come off with little force....twist side to side to help loosen it....as long as you take your time you should be fine....

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Another problem I'm facing is the power connector. For some strange reason, it has 3 prongs... but there's only wires in two of them. I COULD use the adapter that came with it and hook it up to other power line, or I was thinking of using part of the connector on the old fan and making it into a two prong unit. Then again... I'd probably be better off hooking it to the power supply.


As for power....just run it off your PSU....

Final thoughts..
Do you know how to clean the old thermal compund?
How to apply the new stuff?
I sugest you get a bigger better heatsink if you want to change it....either that or try to mount a bigger fan on the current heat sink....

plesae post back with any questions....better to be safe....

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