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September 28, 2006 9:27:25 PM

I'm consdering getting either the G 5 or G7 from logitech but i wanted to hear from you gamers first.

Is it a huge difference playing with a gaming mouse than your run of the mill normal mouse?

I'm big on FPS games so ive been debating if its worth the investment.

If it happens to be which would be the best bang for my buck?
(Brand doesnt matter, Logitch, Razor etc.) Wireless(RF, BlueTooth is expensive) preferred, must come with recharge.

And
How does DPI affect mouse precision?

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September 28, 2006 10:11:36 PM

I have a G5, and I personally love it. On the other hand, one of my friends whom I badgered into getting a gaming mouse (though he chose a G7) didn't like it as much as his old M$ optical. Personal preference.
September 28, 2006 10:16:19 PM

I was the same way for ages. I LOVED my old 2 wheel, 5 button Logitech mouse (Which I bough new for $20), and saw no need for a $50+ "Gaming" mouse. Well, after my beloved mouse got ran over (long story), I had to go buy another mouse. I broke down and bought a Razor Diamondback, and talk about night & day! The pricision on this thing is insane! It took me a week just to get use to it, as with the slightest flick of the wrist I can send the pointer the full length of the screen. Now that I have one, I am never going back.

The Razors are awesome, but I am not sure if they have any wireless ones. I prefer wired devices, as I hate batteries and the headaches that can come from them, especially when gaming.
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September 28, 2006 10:24:40 PM

I have the g5 and g15(keyboard) the drivers on both work good, 100%. it took me a long time to get used to the g5 2000dpi but not that i am man i can't go back
September 28, 2006 10:32:39 PM

I had a Razer Krait for a few weeks and loved it! Made a large difference once I got used to it. Unfortunately I am a college student and lost "The Raz" as my roomate named it for some reason, to a horrible beer spill accident. It still clicks and all that, just struggles to move. Truly a sad sad story... :cry: 
September 28, 2006 10:34:17 PM

I personally like the trackball mice much better for fps games. Here's an almost identical mouse to the one I use for gaming. However, skill makes the greatest difference, so when you find the mouse you want, KILL EVERYTHING IN SIGHT.

Except me.
September 28, 2006 10:42:04 PM

Trackball...
My grandmother is the only one I have seen use one...

Aristotle would agree by me saying...

You use a trackball mouse.
My grandmother is the only one I have seen use one.
You must be my grandmother! 8O










Just messin with ya, never thought of trying a trackball for FPS games. May be nice if you got used to it.
September 28, 2006 10:48:10 PM

A gaming mouse is very important for me. I bought a Logitech G5 and perhaps I got a bad one. Playing BF2, I snipe a lot and one of the tricks to sniping is to hold the button down even after the shot is off (think it's the equivalent of squeezing the trigger) for accuracy. However, it's very sensitive and it doesn't seem to stay pressed down. The on-the-fly sensitivity (I think) is a must for sniping to get the lowest resolution so you can move your sights very slowly on those long shots.

I have also used the Razer Diamondback and it glides across my gaming surface like silk. The fire button is very hair trigger though and many times I fire off a shot accidentally. Also, I found the on-the-fly sensitivity to be glitchy and didn't work; though, that could have been the drivers.

The Logitech 518 Gamer's mouse is the cheapest of the three mice and I am personally in love with this mouse. It has extra buttons on the mouse so I can use one for Push to Talk (Ventrilo) to talk with my clan members while playing and coordinate attacks better. The on-the-fly sensitivity works the best for me. The highest setting when in a tank so I can rotate the turret quickly when somebody is running up to plant C4 on the tank, and the lowest sensitivity for getting the crosshairs on somebody when making long sniper shots.

Oh, the DPI just assures that any movement by your mouse gets translated into movement of the cursor. The higher the DPI, the more accurate and less lost movement.

hball
September 28, 2006 10:53:40 PM

umm its day and night as someone said. I had a logitech mx 300, then a wireless mx 600. Thought these mouses were the bomb. I was like pwning it up in cs:S. Then my frien got an mx518, and I tried it. omg, i went like killing spree with a deagle. Nuff said.
September 28, 2006 11:05:04 PM

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I'm consdering getting either the G 5 or G7 from logitech but i wanted to hear from you gamers first.

Is it a huge difference playing with a gaming mouse than your run of the mill normal mouse?

I'm big on FPS games so ive been debating if its worth the investment.

If it happens to be which would be the best bang for my buck?
(Brand doesnt matter, Logitch, Razor etc.) Wireless(RF, BlueTooth is expensive) preferred, must come with recharge.

And
How does DPI affect mouse precision?


A gaming mouse makes all the difference in the world. I recommend the logitech 518. It's less expensive than the laser mice and has more features. The laser mice have 2000 dpi vs the 518's 1600 dpi but I can tell you from experience you're not going to need more than 1600 dpi. The 518 is extremely precise and sensitve.

I'd recommend that mouse to anyone, and not just gamers. The adjustable sensitivity is useful in the desktop environment as well, not just games. The 518 also has more buttons than the Logitech lasers. Seriously. Get the 518, you'll be happy you did.
September 29, 2006 10:57:09 PM

Optical has it all over mechanical for mice, but I experimented with a "el cheapo" laser mouse (1600dpi) I got for £9 because it had 2 buttons and a wheel and fit the look of the rest of the machine. I figured if it was crap, I'd keep it for a spare or whatever.

It works great. I don't need 52 button on my mouse. Sure, there are things that could be better, like it could have more weight to it or it could change the dpi on the fly (it doesn't) but I'm enjoying the push of my fingers moving me across the full 1400x900 display. I'm a finger user, so broad movements were never my thing - so it works for me.

Mice are a very personal thing though. While I think it's light (and I'm considering opening it up and fitting some weights) someone else may like that it's light. It's really not a hand user's mouse though. It's not ergonomically fitted for your hand, and it has a brushed aluminum shell, and extra traction sides (where my fingers make contact). Plenty of people will think that's not for them. They want it to fit thier palm, have comfortable surfaces, and so on. Like anyone considering thier mouse beyond simply having a mouse, the best thing you can do is try a few out at the store. Before this you may not even have realized that there is more than one way to use a mouse.
September 30, 2006 3:08:16 PM

find one u like, gaming or not, that dosnt matter. gaming mice usually jus mean more features, i hav a razer diamonbak and the way u move the mouse and the 7 buttons on it i like, it is also a very light one ala optical 1600dpi
September 30, 2006 4:38:39 PM

personally, i have a specific logitech mouse i like (it's actually rather unknown, but i just call it a mini mouse) it's very basic with 2 buttons and a scroller, i love these so much that i have purchased a total of about 4, 1 has failed (which was my fault) in my whole experience with them (5+ years) and they are rather accurate for my useage (games..)


mice that i don't like (i don't know why) are ones which are designed to be ergonomic... i find those too "perfect" and do not fit my useage style (2 fingers on 2 buttons, with one of them moving for the scroller when required. As compared to the design of these mice which require a finger on the scroller and 2 other fingers on the two buttons at all times in a way so that the pinky rests on a special groove, which my style requires 2 fingers space there... i'm wierd.)

Ara
September 30, 2006 5:20:32 PM

I have some experience with the G5 and compared to a normal optical mouse, it is amazing...

Then i tried the Razor Diamondback and.... WOW 8O the difference was amazing...

Now they are both "similar" but the Razor company has been in the market with gaming mice for a long time. And have they done this one right, Gold plated USB plug, always on sensor, 7 ft cord, teflon feet, on the fly sensitivity...

But i guess do you want a corded mouse? or a wireless? personal preference on that one.

Woot.com just had the Diamondbacks for 25 bucks, so you can probably find a few online somewhere for around 30-40, if not cheaper
September 30, 2006 5:33:50 PM

Try to use some demos at a computer store. Some people think gaming mice are great, others can't tell the difference, or worse, find that the gaming mice are too sensitive. A high DPI likewise may be a help or hinderance, depending on your style. I got a new Logitech to replace my old MS mouse and found that it wasn't that much better, at least for me. Oh yeah, if you ever suffer from a twitch while using a super mouse, your aiming will be a disaster.

As for all the extra buttons and programability, if you're really deep into gaming and setting up all the individual options, then they're worth it. Otherwise, you've spent a lot of money for nothing.

As for trackballs, they have their uses, but not for serious gaming. I have one on my office computer and it has worked fine for years. In fact, its the longest lived mouse, or pointer if you prefer, that I've ever owned. But it is hard on the arthritc fingers as well.
September 30, 2006 5:36:12 PM

i would love to have a wireless. I have a wireless optical right now but on rare occasion i find myself outta juice in teh middle of a Warhammer 40K Winter Assault match or battlefield 2 firefight. Though its rare i dont really get a huge benefit from using wireless. If someone could tell me if something is happening in the mouse world anytime soon maybe ill wait till that comes out
September 30, 2006 5:37:58 PM

Speaking of gaming mice.How well do u guys think my current mouse will perform.It's a logitech Cordless pilot mouse which is optical by the way.Which wireless mouse do you recommend out of the 3 options:MX1000,G7 or MX610.

I was also considering getting myself a cordless desktop with keyboard and mouse.Do these perform well in games or should I avoid these things?

Any info will be helpful,thanx. 8)
September 30, 2006 6:32:23 PM

yes a gaming mouse is a good investment,but not a necessary one as a good quality optical mouse performs just as well.the gaming headlines are put on things to interest gamers and it gives the manufacturer a reason to charge more for specialized equipment.you may very well see some marked improvement from it,but not likely.anyways your choice.googluck.

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October 1, 2006 12:34:38 AM

Yesssssssssssssssssssss

I went from a rollerball to a MS optical to a mx510 to a G7, with noticable improvement each time.

The G7 is like buttery plastic wireless sex..... but battery life yields about 4 hours of use, so if you go that route make sure you always have the backup in the charger :) 
October 1, 2006 9:33:31 PM

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The G7 is like buttery plastic wireless sex.....

and that buttery plastic wireless sex is in my hand :lol: 
October 1, 2006 10:36:46 PM

I use the Logitech MX518 and found it to be awesome. It has on the fly adjustments and very good ergonomics. I used a G7 for awhile but found it had to much lag in FPS games to be effective (it is cordless).
October 1, 2006 10:58:02 PM

I have the G5 mouse and my gaming performance have increased. I have better aiming and precision with this gaming mouse. Also I can adjust mouse sensitivity on the fly to compensate for long range sniping shots. Using it for Return to Castle Wolfenstien, Counter Strike: Source, Day of Defeat, Call of Duty 2, Quake 4, FEAR and BF2.
October 2, 2006 12:07:05 AM

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...battery life yields about 4 hours of use, so if you go that route make sure you always have the backup in the charger


I have a Logitech MX1000, and it is quite awesome, especially with Hyperglide feet on an Ulti-mat. It tracks beautifully, has no lag that I notice, and the battery lasts for days.

My only complaint was that if I forget to put it on the charger when it's low, I'm SOL. I thought the G7 might be an improvement, with its swappable battery packs.

But four hours?!? I'll stick with the MX1000. Having to go do something else for a while as my mouse charges, once every two months or so, is far preferable to swapping battery packs daily.
October 2, 2006 12:29:35 AM

I have a mx1000, and me and my family use it. I game alot, we probably use it 10 hours a day, and the battery lasts for atleast 4 days, no joke, its perfect for gaming also
October 2, 2006 12:30:53 AM

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I use the Logitech MX518 and found it to be awesome. It has on the fly adjustments and very good ergonomics. I used a G7 for awhile but found it had to much lag in FPS games to be effective (it is cordless).


Of all the mice on the market right now the MX518 really is the way to go if you're into games at all. Wireless is no good for games so scratch all those mice, and there are just more functions (I use all of them all the time) on this mouse than any other out there. The MX1000 is nice for it's features but I found it to be too bulky. If they made a laser mouse with the 518's features I'd recommend that, but they don't. Get the 518.
October 2, 2006 1:36:16 AM

Is the MX Revolution a bad gaming mouse?
October 2, 2006 2:17:06 AM

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Is the MX Revolution a bad gaming mouse?


Ahh... I forgot about that one. Haven't used it myself.

Cost is $60 more than the MX518, which is a bit ridiculous I think. It also lacks some of the 518's features, notably the ability to change mouse sensitivity on the fly. This isn't a gaming mouse, nor is it advertised as such on logitech's website.
a b 4 Gaming
October 2, 2006 2:21:23 AM

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Is the MX Revolution a bad gaming mouse?


This seems to be designed as more of an office mouse. Here is a short review from Anandtech.

I use the Logitech MX518. Being able to change resolution on the fly is the schiznit. ;)  Of course, if you're left handed this mouse is not for you.
October 2, 2006 2:27:38 AM

I just got a Logitech G5 and its alot better than my old MS optical.
I think it makes a huge difference depending on the games you play and how into them you are.
The casual gamer might not be able to appreciate it that much but, the hardcore gamers certainly(sp?) will.
Put it this way if you play any first person shooters for say more than 7 hours in a 7day week then I believe it would be a benifit.
October 2, 2006 2:48:53 AM

all i care about is a 3 button mouse that does not skip.
right now im using a trackball microsoft mouse
October 2, 2006 3:30:25 AM

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all i care about is a 3 button mouse that does not skip.
right now im using a trackball microsoft mouse


Go for the G7 and u'll never regret it dude, i have one and really no matter what else i use at any other place i never feel comfy. G7 rocks.
i have my computer on 24x7 and i use it around 6 hours a day and i replace the battery almost on two days basis. From my readings, i think battery charging stand up period is a bit of luck they are not all the same. so GOOD LUCK.
October 2, 2006 3:53:25 AM

Logitech G5 Mouse with Logitech G15 Keyboard

Upgraded from Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro and Logitech MX1000 Mouse

pretty big difference

i don't like the rechargeable laser mice, only because of the recharge hassle
October 2, 2006 3:56:48 AM

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i don't like the rechargeable laser mice, only because of the recharge hassle


I'm with you. I can think of very few situations I'd actually want a wireless mouse. Everyday situations, no way. Why so many want to deal with the hassle of recharging as well as having a chunk of a charger taking up room on your desk is beyond me.
October 2, 2006 4:01:00 AM

4 me a mouse is a mouse.
as long as its laser+wireless its good enough 4 me.

i have a $10 labtec wireless optical pro mouse.
for $10(aus) it works fine and is just as good as a $200 gaming mouse 2 me.

and recharging isnt a hassle. it didnt come with a charger so i have 5$ rechargable batteries in it. they last 4-6months per charge(and thats using computer 5+hours a day).
no hassle @ all
October 2, 2006 4:15:02 AM

Hello, instead of making a new thread i'll post in this one. I have an mx700, which i love but wanted to get a "gaming" mouse. I've been looking at all the gaming mice out, logitech mice to me seem to be great and hardly any complains about them cept for the g7's battery life. I don't like the fact that the g7 is missing a button that the mx700 has, but besides that will the g7 work with my logitech KB that came with the mx700? or should i wait until logitech comes out with a new mouse that will hopefully have the missing button added. I apologize if i posted here but i don't see why a new thread should be made.
Thank you in advance!
October 2, 2006 4:36:34 AM

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Logitech G5 Mouse with Logitech G15 Keyboard

Upgraded from Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro and Logitech MX1000 Mouse

pretty big difference

i don't like the rechargeable laser mice, only because of the recharge hassle


I have the exact same Logitech set-up.
Mouse is awsome/
Keyboard is damn cool too with the LCD programmable buttons and the lights thought I havent messed with it too much yet.
Another good feature on the keyboard is the 2 usb slots on the top of it.
Very convinient.
October 2, 2006 5:05:32 AM

I have a MX 1000 and personally I love it. I went from a corded, optical mouse to this 2008 mouse some time ago and I cant say anything negative about it.

Answering your questions, is not only because gaming, is because you want to feel comfortable using your computer, mouse in one of the things you will always use on the pc no matter what, so get a good one so you will feel good using your pc. Even the keyboard matters :) 
October 2, 2006 5:37:27 AM

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My only complaint was that if I forget to put it on the charger when it's low, I'm SOL. I thought the G7 might be an improvement, with its swappable battery packs.

But four hours?!? I'll stick with the MX1000. Having to go do something else for a while as my mouse charges, once every two months or so, is far preferable to swapping battery packs daily.

I've heard the battery life improves after a few charges, but I can't see it improving *that* much. However, if you run out of juice mid-game it takes all of 4 seconds to change batteries, and the charger is tiny. So the mouse works well for fast-paced gaming (I mostly play UT2k4, never longer than 2.5 hrs on a given night), but when I'm putting in an 8-12 hr workday at home I'll use the mx510.

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Hello, instead of making a new thread i'll post in this one. I have an mx700, which i love but wanted to get a "gaming" mouse. I've been looking at all the gaming mice out, logitech mice to me seem to be great and hardly any complains about them cept for the g7's battery life. I don't like the fact that the g7 is missing a button that the mx700 has, but besides that will the g7 work with my logitech KB that came with the mx700? or should i wait until logitech comes out with a new mouse that will hopefully have the missing button added. I apologize if i posted here but i don't see why a new thread should be made.
Thank you in advance!

Perhaps the mx518 (with cord) would be right up your alley :)  It's basically an improved mx510, which was already a really nice mouse.

No f*ckin way am I paying their prices, but a good idea for investigating what's available and how they feel would be to visit a Best Buy or Futureshop and check out their mice display.
October 2, 2006 6:29:10 AM

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4 me a mouse is a mouse.
as long as its laser+wireless its good enough 4 me.

i have a $10 labtec wireless optical pro mouse.
for $10(aus) it works fine and is just as good as a $200 gaming mouse 2 me.

and recharging isnt a hassle. it didnt come with a charger so i have 5$ rechargable batteries in it. they last 4-6months per charge(and thats using computer 5+hours a day).
no hassle @ all


I agree. Using a Logitech Cordless Optical Mouse now. (Gift from a fren) Most of the time I am happy the performance, though I rarely play FPS. Usually if I game, its usually RTS or RPG, so I do not need such high precision.

However, I usually need to recharge my batteries after a few days of usage. :x (4 to 5 days) Not sure whether its my batts fault or its a mice problem, since you seem to recharge less often than me. (Though I use my comp 10+ hrs a day, but still, I should not need to recharge so often) :?

Wondering if anyone here knows what is causing this annoyance. I could live with the constant recharging, but if there is a viable solution I wouldn't mind giving it a try.
October 2, 2006 7:12:31 AM

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Perhaps the mx518 (with cord) would be right up your alley :)  It's basically an improved mx510, which was already a really nice mouse.

No f*ckin way am I paying their prices, but a good idea for investigating what's available and how they feel would be to visit a Best Buy or Futureshop and check out their mice display



thnx for the reply gear, but one of my probs is i use my 42" lcd tv sometime for rts and rpg's, and regular monitor for fps, so i kinda need a cordless mouse :( 
October 2, 2006 7:21:13 AM

I have a mx518 (upgraded from a simple ms optical mice) for a 1,5 years now. If you are right handed it is the best way to go I think. It took about 10 days to get used to. I say it made a 10-20% difference in cs:s. I didn't bought the mx1000 cause I heard the battery dies after 2-3 years and theres no way to replace it, meaning that ur mice dies with it! eek!!!!!

I can never go back anymore. The precision is something that if you get used to, everything else seems like cr@p. The thing I don't like in g5 is that it's missing 1 button (the frwd) @ the left side.I use it a lot. Also never used more than 1300 dpi, so makes the g5's 2000 dpi a little over the top for me.

On the other note, a friend of mine hated the way mx518 looked. I personally don't care, since when I'm playing I never look at it!!! And hate mice that glow in the dark. Pretty distracting.
October 2, 2006 7:47:38 AM

i play lots of fps games with my 10$ labtec.
infact 75+% of wat i play is fps. and i snipe aswell.
i have no problems with the mouse
October 2, 2006 8:01:21 AM

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i play lots of fps games with my 10$ labtec.
infact 75+% of wat i play is fps. and i snipe aswell.
i have no problems with the mouse


Ever drive a ford taurus with an automatic tansmission? Ever drive an audi A4 with a manual transmission? Yeah, they'll both get you from point A to point B, but the quality of the ride and the precision in handling are lightyears apart. The A4 can drive circles around the Taurus, just as any modern gaming mouse can scroll cricles around your $10 labtec. The A4 would zip through an obsticle course that the Taurus lagged through. My MX518 will allow me to accurately snipe your ass before you get a chance to lay a bead on me.

I can tell you from first hand experience. My gameplay got better when I got a good mouse, soley due to the fact I had more control. You're losing matches you wouldn't otherwise lose with a good mouse. That's not BS, that's the truth.
October 2, 2006 8:38:49 AM

I have to agree with everyone who likes the Logitech MX518. I've had this mouse for over a year and it's the best mouse I've ever used. The size of it takes getting used to, but the 8 button control and the ability to adjust sensitivity on the fly is great.
October 2, 2006 8:48:28 AM

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I can tell you from first hand experience. My gameplay got better when I got a good mouse, soley due to the fact I had more control. You're losing matches you wouldn't otherwise lose with a good mouse. That's not BS, that's the truth.


but there is never times where i cant get it where i want fast enough or it lags or cant move in small enough increments quickly.

at an internet cafe near my house they have good gaming mice. i dont know exactly which model but it is a logitech of some sort.
i dont notice any improvement with it if anything it is worse coz i am not used 2 it.
i think watever mouse u got as long as it isnt an ancient trackball mouse will be the same 4 me. as long as u can get used to a mouse it does everything u want it 2 do.
thats my opinion @ least.
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a b 4 Gaming
March 27, 2010 12:53:51 AM

Hmm, thats what I thought as well, I went to this forum before, after having ordered a Razer Orochi, now that i have gotten it, my gameplay is tonnes better, and its not just me imagining it, in CS, with my old lazer mouse, i had an almost 1:1 kill, death ratio in this public server that i play in, a few weeks later, after having my new mouse, I got almost up to 2.5:1 kill death ratio, and thats hell of a difference, and without even using the extra buttons, just the usual, left and right buttons, but I guess, you do have to get used to the mouse first, dont expect a huge difference after a day or two as you'd still need to get used to it, but once you do, imho a gaming mouse makes a world of difference.
May 29, 2010 11:50:34 PM

I'm a Logitech guy all the way. I highly recommend the G500. If you regret buying one I'll buy it off of you. :D 
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