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September 30, 2006 11:59:11 AM

I was forced to change some parts from my computer because they fried and I was forced to do it on a restricted budget( Cpu, Mobo, Vga, PSU):
Cpu:AMD643800+skt 939 from AMD64 3000+skt754
Mobo:Ga-K8N pro-sli from AbitKV8 pro
Vga: Sapphire x1900gt from Gigabyte x800proVIVO
Psu: Chieftec 560W from Chieftec 360W
The rest remained the same:
RAM: 2*512 mb Kingmax: 2.5-4-4-8-12 2T, pc3200, dual channel
Hdd :Seagate Sata1 80gb
Dvdrw: Lg
Cdrw: Asus
I want to know if I need a faster memory because I got the strange feeling that my cpu is dragged down by the memory, and if I do need better ram wath do you people suggest?
I have seen that Corsair has DDR at 2-2-2-5 1T?

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September 30, 2006 3:40:22 PM

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I was forced to change some parts from my computer because they fried and I was forced to do it on a restricted budget( Cpu, Mobo, Vga, PSU):
Cpu:AMD643800+skt 939 from AMD64 3000+skt754
Mobo:Ga-K8N pro-sli from AbitKV8 pro
Vga: Sapphire x1900gt from Gigabyte x800proVIVO
Psu: Chieftec 560W from Chieftec 360W
The rest remained the same:
RAM: 2*512 mb Kingmax: 2.5-4-4-8-12 2T, pc3200, dual channel
Hdd :Seagate Sata1 80gb
Dvdrw: Lg
Cdrw: Asus
I want to know if I need a faster memory because I got the strange feeling that my cpu is dragged down by the memory, and if I do need better ram wath do you people suggest?
I have seen that Corsair has DDR at 2-2-2-5 1T?


Now is a bad time to buy RAM. 'spensive lucy. Try going into BIOS and setting your timings to 2-3-3-5. Corsair advertises 2-3-3-5, but their RAM won't rrun those timings unless you set them there. Corsair may not run those timings on your Gigabyte MB if you try. See waht Corsair recommends by inserting your MB here. Then pay, pay pay.

http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/configurator_searc...
September 30, 2006 4:25:53 PM

Your ram is definately a problem. It is holding back your computer a bunch wiht that slow timing.

Don't know of any Corsair ram for this at 2-2-2-5 1T timings. For better performance than you have, you should have 2 gig of XMS PC3200C2 at 2-3-3-6 1T timing, or for best (most expensive) performance try XMS PC3500LL at 2-3-2-6 1T timing.
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September 30, 2006 6:34:22 PM

1T or 2T is a function of your motherboard, not the RAM. Given that you have a limited budget, timings are not a very important issue for you. You will not see a big performance increase by going to CL2 from CL2.5. As others have implied, increasing the total amount of RAM you have could very well make a substantial performance increase.
First, though, find out what your memory is really running at by downloading PC Wizard 2006. Here's some more info on that: http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?nam...
October 2, 2006 3:04:31 PM

Your strange feeling about slow memory is an illusion, common with people on a limited budget. A lot of folks have fallen for the fastest memory timings marketing ploy, now that sticks are advertised that way, and sold at a premium price.

Typically here, people are telling you, "Yes! Faster, faster!" Although nobody thought to ask you what you are using your PC for. You have a good rig now (well beyond mine), and very capable of Vista and anything else. Instead of changing memory, I suggest you just add more to get up to 1.5 or 2GB. You'll get a much bigger boost by giving Windows lots of memory. Ask yourself if you use your computer to accomplish something other than running benchmarks.
October 3, 2006 4:10:48 PM

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Your ram is definately a problem. It is holding back your computer a bunch wiht that slow timing.

Don't know of any Corsair ram for this at 2-2-2-5 1T timings. For better performance than you have, you should have 2 gig of XMS PC3200C2 at 2-3-3-6 1T timing, or for best (most expensive) performance try XMS PC3500LL at 2-3-2-6 1T timing.


So if I am going to replace my 2*512 kingmax modules at 2.5-4-4-8 2t with 2*1024 Corsair TwinX2048 3200c2pro(2-3-3-6 1t) how much performance increase should I obtain with my AMD64 3800+skt939 and my GA K8N PRO-SLI mobo? (10% 15% maybe 20%?)

Could you recommend another memory maker because Corsair is pretty expensive?
October 3, 2006 4:36:55 PM

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Your ram is definately a problem. It is holding back your computer a bunch wiht that slow timing...

I disagree.

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So if I am going to replace my 2*512 kingmax modules at 2.5-4-4-8 2t with 2*1024 Corsair TwinX2048 3200c2pro(2-3-3-6 1t) how much performance increase should I obtain with my AMD64 3800+skt939 and my GA K8N PRO-SLI mobo?

No noticeable increase from going from CL2.5 to CL2. Going from 1GB to 2GB will help on those applications that use a lot of memory, and will help speed up switching from application to application in Windows when you are running more than one app at a time.
October 5, 2006 2:51:08 AM

Another maker I would recommend is OZC. Keep in mind that it is not only the Change from CAS 2.5 to Cas 2.0 that will help, but also going from 2T to 1T and going from 512 meg to a full 1 gig. All these in combination will help.

A big part of the decisson will involve money, basically, how fast can you afford to go. If you can't afford faster ram, than there is no point in thinking about it. Just do the best with what you have. If you can afford better ram, than get the best that you can afford. If you've got more money than me, just get the best.[/code]
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