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X1900 XT vs. 7900 GTO???

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October 4, 2006 12:34:28 AM

I'm building a 2K new rig - getting at end of month:

specs:

E6600
Asus P5B Deluxe
2 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 / 5-5-5-12 latency
NZXT Apollo Mid-ATX Case
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB SATAII
Samsung 20.1 Inch LCD @ 1600X1200, 5 ms R.T.
OCZ GameXStream 700W
X-530 Logitech 5.1 speakers
Sound Blaster Audigy 4 Pro


Mainly for gaming/design/programming
-A GPU to last me for when DX10 card prices slide (5-6 months after release)

I play mainstream FPSes - FEAR, QUAKE 4, BF2, also Oblivion.



I'm trying to decide between a
X1900 XT 256MB ($245)
or a 7900 GTO ($250)

Will last me around 7-8 months until i get a 8800 GT/similar


Suggestions?

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October 4, 2006 12:39:02 AM

It's a close call between the two, but I'd go for the X1900XT.
October 4, 2006 1:03:17 AM

why?
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a b U Graphics card
October 4, 2006 1:40:40 AM

And with all the fuss, those are still the only benchies I have seen. We need some good GTO vs XT comparisons, stock and max OC'ed. I'm sticking with the X1900XT as being better for most people right now. But the GTO has a ton of potential for the enthusiast/OC'er. When it comes down to it, there probably won't be a wrong choice/better card for everyone of the two once all things are considered. Good to see NV release such a serious threat to the recent $200+ ATI price/performance advantage.
October 4, 2006 1:59:48 AM

i would go for the x1900xt. it does run a little hot however.
October 4, 2006 2:01:27 AM

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Check out some of these:
http://www.pcdiga.net/showthread.php?p=125367


The GTO is looking good BEFORE flashing it to the GTX speeds via the bios.

Mine arrives Thursday, but I will not get it in till Saturday night, as I am out of town.

The noise levels were nice to see. The same db for 2 and 3 d.
October 4, 2006 2:01:36 AM

This is a tough one; the 7900GTO has the same 1.1ns DDR3 the 7900GTX has, so overclocking to the 7900GTX's memory speed should be quite easy. In general gaming performance, the 7900GTX is usually around the same speed, as X1900XT 512MB, however the 256MB version not only has less memory, but more relaxed memory timings hurting performance slightly. Perhaps if you were to tell us what games you play, we could better help you decide.
October 4, 2006 2:24:13 AM

Would the GTO be better for BF2? I'm comparing both of these also.
a b U Graphics card
October 4, 2006 2:42:05 AM

Both will be outstanding for BF2. Stock speeds the X1900XT would win by a little. But Both the 7900GTX(and equally overclocked 7900GTO) and X1900XT 256MB are equally playable at 1920x1200 4x/8x in this review.
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_7950...
October 4, 2006 3:02:25 AM

The french site prozak linked showed the GTO kicking the teeth in the xt on higher resolutions of BF2, and that was prior to flashing/OCing.
October 4, 2006 3:04:53 AM

Thanks, I was leaning towards the 1900xt 512mb, because I've heard it was better for BF2. I really wanted a 7900gtx because I have an SLI Mobo and can get another card around Christmas, but the price was a little too high. My budget is $350 and now I can get it's little brother 7900gto and afford to buy another Hard drive now. Will the 7900GTO be around in three months?
October 4, 2006 4:59:53 AM

I doubt it - it's to clear out nvidia's inventory of G70s...

I understand that BF2 is not a Exceedingly graphically tough game - what I was wondering wich card could play me Oblivion/upcoming Crysis/Dark Messiah/UT 04 in the future, and FPSes such as COD2/Quake 4/Far Cry/HL2 now...
a b U Graphics card
October 4, 2006 11:44:57 AM

Neither card will win at all those games. Oblivion, COD2 and Farcry should go to the X1900XT, Quake 4 to the GTO. HL2 no sweat for either, GTO may win it. But really, both cards handle those games well. Crysys and UT2007, we shall have to wait and see. I have never heard of Dark Messiah until Firingsquad used the demo as a benchmark. Looks like at least for now, the demo favors the ATI's comparing X1900XT to 7900GTX and X1900GT to 7900GT. http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_7950...
October 4, 2006 7:01:44 PM

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Thanks, I was leaning towards the 1900xt 512mb, because I've heard it was better for BF2. I really wanted a 7900gtx because I have an SLI Mobo and can get another card around Christmas, but the price was a little too high. My budget is $350 and now I can get it's little brother 7900gto and afford to buy another Hard drive now. Will the 7900GTO be around in three months?


The 7900GTO will be around in the next 3 months, so even buying now, will hold you over indefintely until the DX10 cards and vista are released with the errors and bugs gone hopefully. I have a thread on the 7900GTO that not many have apparently read, so i cant see why all these posts are going up. Between the x1900xt and the 7900GTO, i would honestly go for whats cheaper. The x1900xt currently is, by 5-8 bucks.
October 4, 2006 10:09:03 PM

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Thanks, I was leaning towards the 1900xt 512mb, because I've heard it was better for BF2. I really wanted a 7900gtx because I have an SLI Mobo and can get another card around Christmas, but the price was a little too high. My budget is $350 and now I can get it's little brother 7900gto and afford to buy another Hard drive now. Will the 7900GTO be around in three months?


Dude, whats the size of your screen?

If its a 32" apple Cinema display, it makes sense you're worried about BF2, but both these cards would walk over BF2 at 120+ fps on a 19" LCD monitor like what most people have.

I recommend the GTO if you are into OCing. The 1.1ns memory it has can hit 1800mhz. With stock cooling i have seen people clock this card to 720+ core and 1700mhz + memory. GTO and GTX differ in one thing: the manufacturer of the memory. Samsung makes the GTO one, Infineon makes the GTX one. The samsung cards were getting RMA'd a lot so, EVGA dropped the clock and now you litterally have a GTX with a different BIOS. These are the same GTXs people bought a few months ago before Infineon became the only supplier of GDDR3 memory on these cards.

1900xt 256mb runs AA&AF without losing much speed and people say the textures and HDR look nicer. Its up to you.

But dude, BF2? with your rig BF2 shouldn't be a problem at all. I'd worry more about RAM and harddrives to improve loading times on that game. I ran BF2 on a x850xt with 70+ fps maxed everything. (no AA/AF)
October 4, 2006 10:22:11 PM

Quite simply: If you are going to overclock, get the 7900GTO. If you're not, get the X1900XT.
October 5, 2006 4:58:38 AM

If I get the GTO - I might as well slightly OC it - it does run cooler than the X1900, eh?

If I get the XT, I won't OC it.....

Can the GTO do AA/HDR simultaneously? - (a new patch released?)


As I said before - I will use this for 7-8 months, roughly 5-6 months after DX10 cards come out, and then get a DX10 card cheaper...

Want to use the computer for Gaming/Programming/Design: (Photoshop)
Gaming - BF2, COD2, HL2, Quake 4, Chaos Theory, FEAR, GRAW
Oblivion, AOE III, Rise of Legends, and future games - (Crysis,etc)
October 5, 2006 1:25:05 PM

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Dude, whats the size of your screen?


Good point. yeah I have a 15" for now. I plan to pick up a 22" LCD around Christmas. I just bought the x1900xt 512MB. This should beat the crap out of BF2!!!!!!!
October 5, 2006 6:53:18 PM

Ive just swapped my 7800gt sli setup for a X1900XT and I wouldent go back, the x1900xt kicks butt in all games and the graphics looks so much better. Only thing is sometimes the drivers can be a little troublesome.
October 5, 2006 11:26:42 PM

I thought the 7900GTO runs cooler...
October 6, 2006 3:30:50 AM

final verdict, anyone?

XD
October 6, 2006 11:44:35 PM

bump :?
October 7, 2006 12:12:41 AM

I've heard about the eVGA Step-Up Program - Think I should go with the 7900GTO and step-up in 2-3 months for a 8800GTS? - (maybe pay only 150-200 more?)

However, the X1900 XT 256MB does look like it beats the GTO right now...

suggestions?
October 7, 2006 1:10:23 AM

I ran a quick price/performance analysis on the data from the FiringSquad website that Pauldh mentions here.

The X1900XT is better overall.
October 7, 2006 1:34:09 AM

id go with the x1900xt. i have yet to hear something bad about that card.
October 7, 2006 2:20:49 AM

Well, if you plan on stepping up to the 8800GTS in a month or so, then it would be the best option. If you decide to keep the 7900GTO longer than 3 months, it still will have some life left in it.
October 7, 2006 6:56:30 AM

Go with the X1900 XT on paper it is the better buy. I have bought the

XFX Geforce 7900GTX. I just saw some on Ebay for $350.00 includes

shipping you will not see that price for at least a year as everybody

else is $460.00 and up. clock speed is 665 MHz.

Your first choice is a excellent one you have a clock speed of 475 MHz.

Plus, the price is typically two hundred dollars less. 8)
a b U Graphics card
October 7, 2006 12:40:57 PM

Quote:
I've heard about the eVGA Step-Up Program - Think I should go with the 7900GTO and step-up in 2-3 months for a 8800GTS? - (maybe pay only 150-200 more?)

However, the X1900 XT 256MB does look like it beats the GTO right now...

suggestions?

Only you know what'sbest for you. The X1900XT gives you more performance and IMO better IQ for the money now. You can make up the performance difference with a nice 7900GTO OC if you desire. The eVGA 90 day stepup should easily put you in a timeframe to buy the 8800GTS. if that's what you want maybe the 7900GTO is the better bet. Easier than having to sell off the X1900XT. Both are good cards.

I know when I looked into stepping up from my 7800GT to a 7900GT, there were no 7900GT's available from eVGA. Had I tried, they may have honored the time frame and shipped me one when in stock. (Not sure, but with the burn issues, glad I didin't.) But hopefully the 8800GTS will be plentiful when you decide to step up.
October 7, 2006 12:44:12 PM

Quote:
Only you know what'sbest for you.


That's right. At some point, you just have to combine all the info and make your choice.
October 7, 2006 1:02:20 PM

Quote:
I'm building a 2K new rig - getting at end of month:

specs:

E6600
Asus P5B Deluxe
2 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 / 5-5-5-12 latency
NZXT Apollo Mid-ATX Case
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB SATAII
Samsung 20.1 Inch LCD @ 1600X1200, 5 ms R.T.
OCZ GameXStream 700W
X-530 Logitech 5.1 speakers
Sound Blaster Audigy 4 Pro


Mainly for gaming/design/programming
-A GPU to last me for when DX10 card prices slide (5-6 months after release)

I play mainstream FPSes - FEAR, QUAKE 4, BF2, also Oblivion.



I'm trying to decide between a
X1900 XT 256MB ($245)
or a 7900 GTO ($250)

Will last me around 7-8 months until i get a 8800 GT/similar


Suggestions?


x1900xt.
October 8, 2006 3:53:19 PM

I was in the same situation you were in 3 days ago. I also went with the X1900XT, and If your upgrading soon anyway, got for the X1900XT, and then sell it to me, :lol: 
October 8, 2006 7:00:43 PM

-you serious?



So, the X1900XT 256MB i gather is a better performance card for the money...if the g80s had yet to come out, i would instantly get the 1900.
However....the step-up program means i will pay less for a g80...

suggestions?
October 8, 2006 9:29:25 PM

Quote:
-you serious?



So, the X1900XT 256MB i gather is a better performance card for the money...if the g80s had yet to come out, i would instantly get the 1900.
However....the step-up program means i will pay less for a g80...

suggestions?


Well he eVGA step-up states that you must step-up from a card that you have gotten within 90 days. So if your waiting 2-3 months until the DX10 are out, they wont be cheap. And I dont see why NVIDIA would lower their prices 90 days after its release of their DX10 Boys, specially with ATI's cards nowhere in the horizon. And lets not forget that eVGA sells them at very high prices, plus they are not always in stock, I heard you can wait more than a month for your card! 8O
October 9, 2006 11:13:08 PM

so go with X1900Xt for right now?
October 10, 2006 12:08:58 AM

Quote:
so go with X1900Xt for right now?


IMHO, Yes, go for it. 8)
October 10, 2006 12:14:08 AM

even though i might stepup to a dx10 with a 7900GTO??
a b U Graphics card
October 10, 2006 12:35:15 AM

Not to confuse you,but, Monarch has the 1900xt 512mb with rebate for 280 including shipping.......
October 10, 2006 1:41:53 AM

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even though i might stepup to a dx10 with a 7900GTO??


LOL> I think you really want that GTO, If you havent done so already go for the GTO, they both perform about the same and if your gonna steo-up then go for the GTO.
October 10, 2006 2:27:06 AM

I'm assuming you mean monarchcomputer.com? I checked it out and I did not see that card for $280.

Can you supply a link? Thanks.
October 11, 2006 4:57:03 AM

LOL - i actually am leaning toward the X1900XT, but the 7900GTO allows me a upgrade saving ~200$

Do you think it will be worth it getting an 8800GTS for around 4-500?

I mean, what is you opinion on this card - do you think i could use this for aound a year, and then get a g80? - possibly the better-off 2nd gens...
October 11, 2006 5:54:45 AM

Had same issue.
Couldnt decide on an Nvidia card so I went in between with the 512MB 1900XT. Like it alot. Not used to playing with such a nice. Does run a little hot. Just installed a Zalman VF900 and it runs about 3 C cooler and is much quieter even at full speed than the stock blender.

Im going to wait to see what DX10 cards are out. Heh, dont think my monitor even supports 1600x1200 resolution so no point in SLI at the moment. :) 
October 12, 2006 4:17:07 AM

LOL - my monitor (Samsung 204B) supports 1600 X 1200.

The X1900XT 512 is around 50$ more than the 2 cards im mentioning here - I cant spend that much :lol: 

suggwstions?
October 12, 2006 6:37:09 AM

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LOL - my monitor (Samsung 204B) supports 1600 X 1200.

The X1900XT 512 is around 50$ more than the 2 cards im mentioning here - I cant spend that much :lol: 

suggwstions?


x1900 256. The extra 256 ram of the 512 makes barely any noticable difference in performance.
October 12, 2006 11:32:38 PM

That's if yo planning on winXP - I will be upgrading to vista in March-April - that is if i get a X1900XT256...
October 14, 2006 12:35:04 AM

and how come?
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