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alcatraz678   10-06-2006 at 08:04:44 PM

im quite lost here.. i need some expert opiniouns. i want to buy a core 2 processor (e6300 or e6400).

which of the two have high overclocking capabilities? i want my system to be stable even when its overclocked..

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TSIMonster   10-06-2006 at 10:21:14 PM
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IMO the 6400 is not worth the extra doe, althought, I'm sure the bigger multiplier is nice. Now the 6600 has 4M of cache which is nice.

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RichPLS   10-07-2006 at 12:28:11 AM
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agreed, either the 6300 for economy or the 6600 for budget overclocking performance.

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Flopmouth_Fish   10-07-2006 at 02:21:26 AM
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I'd get the E6300 and save some cash

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Maverick7   10-07-2006 at 03:54:57 AM
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i would honestly skip both and go with the 6600.

*but i really cant respond honestly or helpfully since you didnt state what you do with your pc...

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alcatraz678   10-07-2006 at 04:02:40 AM
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i would honestly skip both and go with the 6600.

*but i really cant respond honestly or helpfully since you didnt state what you do with your pc...



oh yah.. im very sorry.. here is it:

motherboard: Asus P5B
GPU: Asus EN7900GS
RAM: Kingston DDR2 1GB 667mhz
CPU: Core2 Duo (E6300 / E6400)
Hard Disk: 160GB Hitachi SATA

About the E6600, I can't buy that, my budget is not enough. :(

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Assman   10-07-2006 at 04:34:46 AM
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e6600 is NOT worth the money, only avg. 3.5% performance increase with 4mb cache 8)

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Flopmouth_Fish   10-07-2006 at 04:37:15 AM
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i would honestly skip both and go with the 6600.

*but i really cant respond honestly or helpfully since you didnt state what you do with your pc...



oh yah.. im very sorry.. here is it:

motherboard: Asus P5B
GPU: Asus EN7900GS
RAM: Kingston DDR2 1GB 667mhz
CPU: Core2 Duo (E6300 / E6400)
Hard Disk: 160GB Hitachi SATA

About the E6600, I can't buy that, my budget is not enough. :(

Change the HDD to anything Seagate; I wouldn't trust a DEATHstar.

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Assman   10-07-2006 at 04:38:36 AM
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true, i'd go with a 16mb cache wd sata

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alcatraz678   10-07-2006 at 04:40:49 AM
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oh ok, Thanks for the suggestion. Right now, im using hitachi 160gb.. no problem yet..

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Assman   10-07-2006 at 04:43:35 AM
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no problem, just want to add, i got p5b + e6400 oc like crazy, check my sig(cpu-z) 8) :lol:

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alcatraz678   10-07-2006 at 04:48:06 AM
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no problem, just want to add, i got p5b + e6400 oc like crazy, check my sig(cpu-z) 8) :lol:



wow, i didnt notice that.. lol can you go further more?? is that 100% stable?

because i thought that e6400 and e6300 have the same 2mb cached, so its better to buy e6300 right?

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rushfan   10-07-2006 at 04:48:15 AM
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im quite lost here.. i need some expert opiniouns. i want to buy a core 2 processor (e6300 or e6400).

which of the two have high overclocking capabilities? i want my system to be stable even when its overclocked..



The E6400 is a fabulous chip and the extra multiplier is worth it. If you have the cash, go for it. I think that when it comes to overclocking, an extra multiplier is more useful than extra cache.

The E6400 that I own runs rock solid at 3.4 GHz - an amazing 60% overclock. The trade off is a little more heat - a few degrees more at full load. I like my PC to be fairly quiet so I run the CPU fan at a lower speed, hence the slightly reduced overclock. The 60% overclock was achieved with air cooling, using less than 1.4v so it's reasonable to assume that this CPU has a few ponies left in it. I'll find out in a couple of months when I switch to water cooling.

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aequalsb   10-07-2006 at 04:54:29 AM
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I now have 3 E6300 Setups now. Cheap and totally whipped everything i had in this house. This puppy is soooo fast. Just get the 6300, use the difference to get a nice cooler for overclocking. =)

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alcatraz678   10-07-2006 at 05:05:18 AM
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whats the most stable clock for the e6300 or e6400 anyway? can it still be rock stable at a speed of 3.2ghz?

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illicitsc   10-07-2006 at 05:10:48 AM
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get the damn chip and try it yourself. no one can tell you how high it's going to go but yourself.

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Assman   10-07-2006 at 05:11:11 AM
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8*400 is rock solid i got zalman 9500 cnps, but im sure you can reach 3.2 on stock as well, e6400 would be nicer cause u can play around with multiplier more.

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Assman   10-07-2006 at 05:13:05 AM
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get the damn chip and try it yourself. no one can tell you how high it's going to go but yourself.



what kind of answer is this really, if you don't want to reply than don't

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alcatraz678   10-07-2006 at 05:13:54 AM
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get the damn chip and try it yourself. no one can tell you how high it's going to go but yourself.



thats why this forum is here right? to help each other not just to talk rubbish.

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alcatraz678   10-07-2006 at 05:17:40 AM
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8*400 is rock solid i got zalman 9500 cnps, but im sure you can reach 3.2 on stock as well, e6400 would be nicer cause u can play around with multiplier more.



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Our 2.13 GHz chip was able to clock up to 2.68 GHz and maintain 100% stability throughout all of our tests. This is actually a little less than we were expecting, seeing how high others are clocking these chips. Keep in mind though, these are not Intel engineering sample chips, these are final retail product on store shelves, using the final B2 core stepping. We were able to get our chip to post and run Windows at up to 2.85 GHz, but we were not able to obtain 100% stability throughout all of our benchmarks until we clocked it down to 2.68 GHz. Nevertheless, even at 2.68 GHz, the Core 2 Duo can provide amazing performance, as you’ll see in the following pages.



dude assman, i read the article from that site, and said that the E6400 wont run stable when it was clocked until 2.85GHz

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Assman   10-07-2006 at 05:19:19 AM
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LOL, it will, just have to up the vcore a bit (mine is at 1.385)

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Assman   10-07-2006 at 05:20:28 AM
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when ocing just follow wusy's guide and you're gonna be ok

RE5PECT

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illicitsc   10-07-2006 at 05:22:34 AM
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whats the most stable clock for the e6300 or e6400 anyway? can it still be rock stable at a speed of 3.2ghz?



these are questions that can be answered through google easily. "YMMV" is the law overclockers abide by anyway. if he gets a nf5 board..he's gonna get a crap oc...stick to 965/975. or wait for rd600

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alcatraz678   10-07-2006 at 05:22:59 AM
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LOL, it will, just have to up the vcore a bit (mine is at 1.385)



icic, thats cool, i guess im gonna buy the monster.

what system configurations are you using with your E6400 now? im gonna follow it a bit.

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Assman   10-07-2006 at 05:23:14 AM
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also, check this out The E6400 up close, it is a little out of date i know, meaning that new bios have been released since then

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Assman   10-07-2006 at 05:26:58 AM
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now that's better :lol:
(no offence about my previous comment)
RE5PECT

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alcatraz678   10-07-2006 at 05:30:43 AM
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whats the most stable clock for the e6300 or e6400 anyway? can it still be rock stable at a speed of 3.2ghz?



these are questions that can be answered through google easily. "YMMV" is the law overclockers abide by anyway. if he gets a nf5 board..he's gonna get a crap oc...stick to 965/975. or wait for rd600

thanks :D , i tried to search but couldn't find the answers that i wanted to know.

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also, check this out The E6400 up close, it is a little out of date i know, meaning that new bios have been released since then



well, i got alot to read.. lol 4 articles about core 2

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Assman   10-07-2006 at 05:34:15 AM
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LOL, it will, just have to up the vcore a bit (mine is at 1.385)



icic, thats cool, i guess im gonna buy the monster.

what system configurations are you using with your E6400 now? im gonna follow it a bit.

i got
e6400 @3.2 8*400
p5b 1600 fsb (active nb cooling)
2gb ddr2 800 6400 @ stock 1.9v and stock 5.5.5.12
running @ 1:1 ratio
nb @ 1.40v
vcore 1.385 (1.375 wasn't stable for me, i got error on prime95 2core)
600w rosewill

note: remember to use wusy's guide and go from there

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alcatraz678   10-07-2006 at 11:12:09 AM
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will the memory affect the overclocking capabilities of the system? im thinking to buy a Kingston 1GB DDR2-667MHz

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alcatraz678   10-07-2006 at 11:25:23 AM
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LOL, it will, just have to up the vcore a bit (mine is at 1.385)



icic, thats cool, i guess im gonna buy the monster.

what system configurations are you using with your E6400 now? im gonna follow it a bit.

i got
e6400 @3.2 8*400
p5b 1600 fsb (active nb cooling)
2gb ddr2 800 6400 @ stock 1.9v and stock 5.5.5.12
running @ 1:1 ratio
nb @ 1.40v
vcore 1.385 (1.375 wasn't stable for me, i got error on prime95 2core)
600w rosewill

note: remember to use wusy's guide and go from there

dude, whats your cooling system?

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Assman   10-07-2006 at 08:36:51 PM
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Honestly, i don't know how Kingston oces, but if you want to oc to 3.2, 8*400, that means you're gonna have to oc your 667 ram to 800, which means you better buy a good ocing ram or for a few extra $ get ddr2 800.

My cooling is Zalman 9500 CNPS
@ 3.2 i idle 42-44C, load 45-49C (Which is nice 8) )

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