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a b U Graphics card
October 6, 2006 10:35:48 PM

Forgive me if it's been posted already, a little scoop on the retail G80 cards.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4441

Hard launch second week of November.

8800GTX - 575MHz core, 768MB 900MHz GDDR3, 384-bit mem interface, 128 Unified Shaders clocked at 1350MHz.

8800GTS - 500MHz core, 640MB 900MHz GDDR3, 320-bit mem interface, 96 unified shaders clocked at 1200MHz.
October 6, 2006 10:39:53 PM

Tell me about the drivers that will be released with these cards.
a b U Graphics card
October 6, 2006 10:42:48 PM

Doesn't matter as everyone will be using the betas released shortly afterwards. :tongue:
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October 6, 2006 10:43:33 PM

Any info on the pricing ?
a b U Graphics card
October 6, 2006 10:47:16 PM

Nope, but I'd guestimate probably a little out of my range for the GTS and alot out of my range for the GTX. :lol: 
October 6, 2006 10:54:07 PM

Well it looks like, from a link on this article, that we real are going to need a monster power supply to run SLI on DX10 cards:

'top tier vendors in Taiwan have already confirmed with DailyTech that GeForce 8800 cards in SLI mode will likely carry a power supply "recommendation" of 800W'

And that means for us enthusiasts that we're looking at 1KW power supplys if we want to run 2 GFX cards 8O

Just imagine quad SLI on these things :lol:  are there even power supplies powerful enough for such a thing atm?
a b U Graphics card
October 6, 2006 11:01:43 PM

so any of you guys going to buy them when or shortly after
they come out? or wait til say feb or march?

i have been debating on buying a dual core to replace my s939 3700
and upgrading to a 78 (heyyou27 is probably going to sell his two)
i talked to him about it but decided to maybee go with a new 79 series
but now i am thinking my 68gt,s will work til spring of next year.

i guess ill wait til then. on the gpu,s
now on the s939 cpu,s i will have to buy one soon before they go back
up in price.
October 6, 2006 11:03:04 PM

I can't see why you'd want to run them in quad sli...but don't worry though, for you people with money to burn, the market is making plenty of products to profit from you nicely ;) 
a b U Graphics card
October 6, 2006 11:03:46 PM

lol yeah you will probably need a current sli supported psu
to power one g80 card
a b U Graphics card
October 6, 2006 11:14:19 PM

I would not be buying one until I see it thoroughly pitted against R600. The when I know just how they stack up, I'll keep my eyes peeled for a good price on the one I want.
October 6, 2006 11:15:49 PM

Well with a bit of luck quad SLI on these things might get you an okay frame right on oblivion at max settings. Still, i'm quite happy with my present expensive system :D  E6600, X1900XT etc, once i've completed my mission on silencing it then i might conisder an R600 - as for the G80s, i can't ever see me owning one of them unless their performance is amazingly good.
a b U Graphics card
October 6, 2006 11:16:11 PM

oh yeah forgot about r600.

sorry i forgot when they are coming out?

isnt it around november too?
a b U Graphics card
October 6, 2006 11:18:44 PM

yeah with both of them being dx10 compliant
who knows how close performance wise they will be
or how hot and power hungry :lol: 
October 6, 2006 11:19:15 PM

I'm super-psyched. Due to the way our money has fallen, I've been holding off on building a new computer, but it looks like mid-november will be the time... I've been dying to play Oblivion with some pretties turned on. I plan to stick an 8800GTX in my new build along with an E6600(maybe E6700, depending on my total cost of build.), and maybe get a second 8800GTX a year down the line. I was going to get an overgrown PSU, anyway... I'd prefer not to tax it at full load, plus it can be difficult to find modular cabling on the smaller ones, and I have no patience for screwing around with wires and other physical objects.
October 6, 2006 11:27:18 PM

Yeah, ATi is going to be a bit late to the party, unless they have a big performer up their sleeve to unveil before R600... It looks like AMD and ATi are in trouble together. Hope they can swing it... it would suck to have the only real competitor to the top dog in both the CPU and GPU markets go under.
a b U Graphics card
October 6, 2006 11:32:18 PM

well one thing to consider is ati will probably be better prepared
for dx10 with a later release as m.s. will be releasing vista
which will have dx10 around that time

nvidia hopefully will have driver updates for the early launch of
the g80.

or nvidia may come out with a whole new line of cards around
the time of vista and dx10 launch.
which would kinda suck for anyone who buys the g80 right when they come out next month.

edit; did this post make any sense lol
October 6, 2006 11:38:52 PM

Quote:
so any of you guys going to buy them when or shortly after
they come out?

The "core" members here are ATi zealots, and I cant see any of them buying a new nVidia card, unless things have changed a lot in the nVidia camp recently.
October 6, 2006 11:40:26 PM

Being the SLI addict I am, I'll be stepping up to 8800GTs or GTXs in December of this year. ;) 
October 6, 2006 11:47:49 PM

Too true, they should of done that in the first place. I dont see why with power being such an issue and heat as well.
October 6, 2006 11:56:42 PM

Considering I just got two eVGA 7900 GTO's, I'm planning on using the step up program for two 8800 GTS's. After step up, it should come to about 400 clams I'm guessing. Building a new PC around that time so...what the hey.

I should be fine with my OCZ GamerXstream 700W. I'm betting the "recommended 800W" for SLI applies to the higher end of the spectrum (i.e. 2x 8800 GTX's). This was the case when nVid released specs on the 7800 series way back when anyways - they quoted a recommended spec of 600W for those cards.
October 7, 2006 12:00:09 AM

Your love for SLI will indefenatly be your biggest weakness. It will make you so weak in fact that you will buy me an SLI setup. :D 
October 7, 2006 12:05:35 AM

Well to a certain extent, more power generally = more heat. Regardless, im interested to see when they actually are going to put it on a 65nm die. Do you have any clue as to when that may be?
October 7, 2006 12:06:22 AM

I've already ordered my 1000watt psu. It'll be here monday.
October 7, 2006 12:06:46 AM

Quote:
Your love for SLI will indefenatly be your biggest weakness. It will make you so weak in fact that you will buy me an SLI setup. :D 


No "love" for SLI although it has treated me well and not caused and headaches for me *knocks on wood, throws salt over shoulder, make the sign of the cross*

I really wanted to go ATI in this build, but timing is everything. i.e. do I spend money on two cards soon or piddle it away on beer and women until R600 comes out, and then not be able to buy anything? I consider it "preemtive negotiation" with myself. :lol: 
October 7, 2006 12:09:48 AM

Who is the manufacturer?
October 7, 2006 12:13:40 AM

Enermax Galaxy. Every review i could find on it gave it a must buy. It has 5 12+ rails at 17a and it weighs 10 lbs so it sounds like it's high quality and should do the job with no problems.
October 7, 2006 12:14:38 AM

Anybody know of a good case that holds two power supplies? I'm probably going to have the house rewired to have a couple of dedicated circuit breakers for my SLI build! :) 
October 7, 2006 12:15:06 AM

Yeah i've had good experiences with enermax. So you should be in the clear.
October 7, 2006 12:20:57 AM

And of course just because i've had good experiences with them means that you will undoubtedly not have any problems what so ever. 8)
October 7, 2006 12:32:58 AM

I've used Enermax PSUs in systems in the past and have never had a problem with them. It better be good though for $360.
October 7, 2006 12:46:33 AM

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Your love for SLI will indefenatly be your biggest weakness. It will make you so weak in fact that you will buy me an SLI setup. :D 
If you play your cards right. ;) 

I may not buy two 8800GTXs, based on performance of the competing R600. If performance is relatively the same, I may be doing so seeing as I'll have two cards to step-up with.
a b U Graphics card
October 7, 2006 12:57:01 AM

Quote:
Being the SLI addict I am, I'll be stepping up to 8800GTs or GTXs in December of this year. ;) 
Sounds Sweet!
October 7, 2006 12:59:06 AM

Although, this is also based on how well the R600 does, and if Kentsfield/Quad Core AMD motivates me to upgrade my whole system. If that happens to be the case, I could go Crossfire. :wink:
October 7, 2006 3:20:16 AM

And i'm quite sure the R600 is going to do very well. The predeccesor was very good, so good in fact that it makes me angry i got my 7800gt and didnt just hold out for an x1900xt. Oh well. . . Its going to be an interesting few months when these new cards are released and vista comes out.
October 7, 2006 11:48:07 AM

Quote:
Forgive me if it's been posted already, a little scoop on the retail G80 cards.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4441

Hard launch second week of November.

8800GTX - 575MHz core, 768MB 900MHz GDDR3, 384-bit mem interface, 128 Unified Shaders clocked at 1350MHz.

8800GTS - 500MHz core, 640MB 900MHz GDDR3, 320-bit mem interface, 96 unified shaders clocked at 1200MHz.

Nice. :D 

I wish there were two Chirstmases though. :?
October 7, 2006 12:38:05 PM

You said power wasnt a concern for you and heat was, but the two are really hand in hand. I figured i would point that out.
October 7, 2006 1:04:55 PM

Is it just me who is hoping that this generation such ridiculous things as SLI/Quad SLI will slowly be phased out as it's just pricing me and many others out of the high end market.
October 7, 2006 1:21:14 PM

True. Also power consuption. Not everyone can get a $500 card with a $200 PSU. But I don't think it's really a big issue though.
October 7, 2006 1:24:46 PM

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Is it just me who is hoping that this generation such ridiculous things as SLI/Quad SLI will slowly be phased out as it's just pricing me and many others out of the high end market.


I should hope that you don't wish this. While breakthroughs in this area may be out of your reach for now, the technology produced WILL provide benefit to you in the future. Things tend to trickle down in the market. Multi-gpu isn't ridiculous, any more than dual-core cpu is ridiculous, its just marking a shift to more parallell processing. While you not be able to afford such a setup now, with time it will become more mainstream. Either that or completely crap its pants like Betamax, in which case you won't have wasted your money. Cheep up, do.
October 7, 2006 1:34:40 PM

Yep, heat is going to be a issue, 800watt to 1000 watt, start cutting holes in the psu and case, add 14-120mm fans, god dam will the psu get hot. I guess my blower box dont seem to be that bad of a thing. I can see it now. Talking about migrating electrons, holyee, the electrons will be bouncing around like wusy giving advice about cooling.
October 7, 2006 1:49:43 PM

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I've already ordered my 1000watt psu. It'll be here monday.


If someone told me they were upgrading to a 1000watt psu just last year, I would have thunk they were running a small discoteque in their basement.

These power requirements are starting to get obscene. My enormous refrigerator only uses 610 watts at the most.
October 7, 2006 2:00:08 PM

1000 watts/120 volts = 8.3amps holyee thats if my conversion table is correct wusy can help here or 1000w/12V=83amps holyee 83 amps on the 12volt rail. Wow going to upgrade my power outside to 100amp service.
October 7, 2006 4:25:52 PM

Anybody who buys this card will see a huge increase in power usage lol
October 7, 2006 5:06:49 PM

Quote:
Anybody who buys this card will see a huge increase in power usage lol


Never would have guessed....
October 7, 2006 5:24:01 PM

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Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight....
And all I said in my first post was:
I will not be buying one unless they move to 65nm and keep it under 160W...


Quote:
I dont see why with power being such an issue and heat as well.
You'd have to be absolutely out of your mind to reply me with something like that.

Try your luck next time. :wink:He's trying to dumb it down for you. :wink:
October 7, 2006 6:34:20 PM

Quote:
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight....
And all I said in my first post was:
I will not be buying one unless they move to 65nm and keep it under 160W...


Quote:
I dont see why with power being such an issue and heat as well.
You'd have to be absolutely out of your mind to reply me with something like that.

Try your luck next time. :wink:

I see you have very little patience for the over the top remarks. 8)
Back to the 65nm I agree 100%.
Without 65nm it’s pointless and nearly unmanageable for stability on the extreme side.
Imo it would degrade the performance of the entire system. (Of course I’ve been wrong before)


Everything has to work like a symphony.
Just one sour note and the songs over.


If any one can make it work I’m sure you can.
Lets us know if you take the plunge. :wink:
October 7, 2006 7:09:23 PM

If you buy a large enough case you can mod it with a dremel or something similar to hold two Ps if you really feel the need for it.
October 7, 2006 7:15:39 PM

All i can think about is price drop on the old flagship card :D 
October 7, 2006 7:17:43 PM

Amen to that. I refuse to pay more then $200.00 for a video card.
That was how much my monster3d cost.
!