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Upgrade from 4000+ to FX55 worth it?

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October 7, 2006 10:12:16 AM

Hey i was wondering do you guys think its worth upgrading from a 4000+ to a fx55? I dont know much about the fx55's is the only difference that there 200mhz faster and have a unlocked multiplyer or is there more benefits?

Thanks
Mike
October 7, 2006 10:16:57 AM

NO! I'd just overclock it if you haven't already done, WHY pay for a FX-55 when you could turn your 4000+ into one?!
For more dualcore power, try with a dual core (X2 4200+, 4400+ or 4800+).
October 7, 2006 11:27:04 AM

Hell to the NO! I can overclock my AM2 4000+ to 3Ghz which is faster then anything on the AMD side of the house and it has 2MB of cache and the onboard AMD memory controller. It flies and still stays cool. I backed it off to 2.86 though just so I could keep the voltage under 1.5v. Stick with the 4000+ and overclock the sh*t out of it, you'll be impressed!
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October 7, 2006 2:41:15 PM

I have a X2 4200+ and it's hella fast- too bad my HD can't keep up. I would overclock, but stupid Mobo locks voltage and you can't have a bus speed bast 10MHZ of the defaults. (Or else it won't boot)
October 7, 2006 2:54:35 PM

You would be much better off putting that money into more RAM or a better video card.
October 7, 2006 2:55:37 PM

Upgrade from 4000+ to FX55 worth it?
NO
October 7, 2006 3:54:00 PM

you can easily OC your CPU to a FX55 (Like Me :tongue: )
use the 11.5x226 with stock Voltage...
but if you want to upgrade ,then go for a Dual Core CPU :!:
October 7, 2006 4:53:21 PM

Maybe the FX-60 would be a good choice but the price is kinda high for a FX-60 which is now a mid-range cpu
October 7, 2006 5:24:45 PM

no,save your money for something else later.
October 7, 2006 7:00:48 PM

Alright sounds great thanks for the responses.

What should i upgrade here:
Amd64 4000+ 1mb Venice
Asus A8N-Sli Deluxe
2x512 Curtial Ballstix 2-2-2-5
200gb sata seagate
60gb ide wd
2x7600gs in SLi
October 7, 2006 7:02:07 PM

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no,save your money for something else later.


I love your pc setup its very nice btw.
October 7, 2006 7:06:46 PM

Another question is upgrade to a fx57 worth it or should i go with a AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Toledo 2.4GHz

Reason being i wana get into the highend stuff sense there hella cheap now.
Also another thing in windows xp pro is the 2nd core being used? and in games only one core is being worked right?
October 7, 2006 7:18:36 PM

x2 3800. Only one worth buying.

All AMD's processors are the same, just the better quality ones get a higher clock rating. You can oc them though, just means the voltage has to go up a bit, nothing they can't handle.

I'd find a x2 3800 quick, since you need socket939. They are very cheap and you'll notice the difference from your current cpu.
October 7, 2006 7:20:56 PM

Oh and to reiterate an already made point.

Don't get an FX, it's marketed rubbish. Why pay 5x the price for 20% more performance? They aren't worth their money anymore, core2's wipe the floor with them.
October 7, 2006 7:25:00 PM

Ahh i dunno 2x512k caches. I was wanting 2x1mb cache those are the true highend ones that are really like the 4800's.

I think the 4400 is a better choice personally.
October 7, 2006 7:26:41 PM

I can't remember what AMD models have 1meg, i think you are right its the 4400, if so get them. The higher models just arent worth buying imo.
October 7, 2006 7:26:46 PM

I would build myself a core2 system but ive never built a intel rig ive always had amd.
October 7, 2006 7:29:58 PM

Well yeah, i was going to say. There is a point where there is no point wasting money on 'top end' AMD processors.

Building Intel is easy. Same principals. The core 2 is by far the fastest available, i'd switch to it rather than buying an FX cpu.
October 7, 2006 7:36:58 PM

Yeah im not sure if its time for a completly new rig. I might just overclock my 4000+ to 2.8ghz and when the G80 nvidia comes out buy then 7950gx2 cause there gona drop in prices.
October 7, 2006 8:39:34 PM

save your money for K8L altair.upgrade to FX55 is a definite NO NO.
October 7, 2006 8:43:10 PM

thanks Shata. i would just experiment with the overclocking a little and then if you need more graphics power upgrade that. then when your current system starts to slow way down then build a new high end setup,thats what i'm going to do. i may not have conroe speed now but my system does a great job at the games i play (fear, cod 2 and i just ordered new ghost recon game).
October 7, 2006 9:20:59 PM

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Yeah im not sure if its time for a completly new rig. I might just overclock my 4000+ to 2.8ghz and when the G80 nvidia comes out buy then 7950gx2 cause there gona drop in prices.


They won't drop in prices though. It doesn't work like that.
October 7, 2006 9:40:57 PM

Dont bother with socket 939 AMD, go for C2D.
October 7, 2006 10:08:05 PM

get c2d, if you oc e6400 you can kill fx60.
October 7, 2006 10:09:23 PM

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Ahh i dunno 2x512k caches. I was wanting 2x1mb cache those are the true highend ones that are really like the 4800's.

I think the 4400 is a better choice personally.


The last I saw, the 4800+ was only a few dollars more than th 4400+, so I'd get the 4800+ if I was making the choice. Actually, I've thought of doing that anyway, and giving my present 4400+ to my son.
October 8, 2006 12:35:23 AM

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Dont bother with socket 939 AMD, go for C2D.


True in some respects.....

If you already have a 939 setup, you may find it worth replacing the cpu though.

The Asrock-775-VSTA closes the last part of the market 939 had, if you have DDR and AGP / PCI-E you can use this with a Core2. Can't OC much but they are so fast anyway, at least it gets you on the core 2 track.
October 8, 2006 1:01:20 AM

No. Upgrade your video cards when DX10 comes out. If you want a CPU upgrade, go for an X2 4800+.
October 8, 2006 1:45:02 AM

From 4000+ to anything single core = isn't worth it.

If I were you, I would wait for Bad Axe 2 board from Intel to start shipping:
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4111

Even E6300 at stock can kill the x2 4600+ for ~60$ less money.

Just get a good Corsair EPP DDR2-800 or DDR2-1066 RAM and you are good to go.

The only problem you might have with this kind of setup would be SLI or the absence of the support for it on Intel based boards (unless you get nForce 590 SLI Intel Edition based board) but I would rather sell those 2x 7600GS and get 1x 7950GX2 while they are still available.
October 8, 2006 2:24:19 AM

DDR2-1066MHz would be a complete waste on any current Intel system; also if you're going to buy $400 DDR2, how is the Intel system saving him money?

For example, look at this newegg review.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustratingReview.asp?item...
This customer claims he spent over $600 for RAM while he's using an X1300 Pro on his E6600 system.
October 8, 2006 9:05:34 AM

Well im a amd person really, but im selling my pc on ebay right now its brand new litterally if anyone wants it i have had it for about 1 week - 1week and a half. I may just go with that intel cpu.

You think i can get a pc togeather that runs games like wow maxed at 1600x1200 for 800$? And maybe be able to run oblivion on really nice settings also 1600x1200 maybe?

I mean real basic.
Chenming case
Any decent board ( any suggestions?)
2x512 decent drr2 ram (any suggestions? i know nothing about ddr2)
maybe 7900gs? if it fits in the budget
200gig sata harddrive (can you install xp on one if you have no other drive?)

Some suggestions that put me at 800$ without shipping would be super a tiny over is ok too.
Thanks

If anyone wants my pc here it is.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=013&it...
October 8, 2006 4:45:19 PM

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Well im a amd person really, but im selling my pc on ebay right now its brand new litterally if anyone wants it i have had it for about 1 week - 1week and a half. I may just go with that intel cpu.


Personally, I think you're making a mistake. If you've got a brand new computer, you should take time to use it and enjoy it. Never mind what all the Conroe people say. After all, its easy to tell other people how to spend their money and what's wrong with the other person's computer.

Remember that a lot of the people on this forum don't have new computers, in fact some are several years old. They dream about what they would like to have if they could afford it, and try to egg others into buying what they can't afford. Also, don't worry if you like AMD chips. That's your choice and you don't have to defend yourself against anybody. After all, its your choice, your money, and your computer, no one else's. Don't let others tell you how to live your life. Otherwise, you won't have a life of your own.
October 8, 2006 11:23:19 PM

Yeah i agree with you i shouldnt be doing that, but im not completly satisfied with the SLi stuff its running super but a flagship card is better then 2 mid range ones so thats another reason im getting rid of it. I made a bad choice, now really it runs super nice with the cards its just not like i wanted it too.
October 8, 2006 11:50:24 PM

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Yeah im not sure if its time for a completly new rig. I might just overclock my 4000+ to 2.8ghz and when the G80 nvidia comes out buy then 7950gx2 cause there gona drop in prices.


Well not really or at least not as much as people think, the last thing Nvidia wants to do is hurt their DX10 card sales, you cant have one of your products compete with another one of your products. If anything the prices will remain the same, the DX10 cards will just be more expensive.
October 8, 2006 11:55:39 PM

Hey Man, what happend to you with Paypal? Reason I asked Its becuase I was also thinking about selling my rig on ebay.
October 9, 2006 12:22:06 AM

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Hey Man, what happend to you with Paypal? Reason I asked Its becuase I was also thinking about selling my rig on ebay.


To keep it simple, Someone bought my last system - used someone elses credit card and ebay account - I didnt pay seller protection and shiped to unconfirmed address - Paypal is like "Where not liable for a cent" - So i owe paypal 1000$ now.

Thats the reason why i will only do money orders now no accpetions that mistake cost me 1000$.
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