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October 8, 2006 1:46:36 PM

i want to build a new computer, mainly for gaming, mp3 playback, mabye some dvd's...

i am only 14, so money is the main issue here, i want to spend mabye at most $1000

i was debating between building my own, or just find an incredible mail in rebate deal and upgrade it, i have good knowledge on building them, but i have never actually done it...

give me any ideas on it, ur suggestions, or a good build plan, it would be greatly appreciated

it would prolly be agod idea to go with core 2 duo, and i know a lot more about nvidia than about ati, so idk... but thanks


~lionhardt
October 8, 2006 2:31:16 PM

Let us know: do you have any hardware from a previous computer you will be using for this new build? Keyboard, mouse, monitor? Or do you need everything?
October 9, 2006 12:28:50 AM

nah, the comp i use right now is the family comp:

p3 933mhz
256 ram
fx5500....

it sucks, and i wont reuse anything, so i need all new shtuff like:

montior( i was thinking a good lcd with like 12 x 10 or 16 x 12 native)
decently good sound card with decently good speakers
a solid combonatioin of keyboard and mouse (like microsoft)
dvd burner, u know.....
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October 9, 2006 2:04:55 AM

Going with Conroe may put you a little over budget especially if you want 2GB worth of Ram:

E6300 $180
Gigabyte DS3 MB $146
2 GB of ram ~ $200 (pqi was running about $180 on newegg)
Seagate 250GB PRT HD $75
7600 GT video card ~ $120
Win XP $80
NEC dvd/cd burner $30

That all totals about $750 not including tax and shipping. Find a decent PSU and a case you like may put you out another $150 including shipping and tax. For another $100 i'm sure you could pick up some speakers, keyboard and mouse. Bug your parents for a decent LCD for Christmas and you're set :) 
October 9, 2006 3:15:15 AM

ECS P965T-A (V1.0) $73

E6300 $180

2x1GB DDR2 667 CL4 $175
PQI25400-2GDB

7600GT $110

barracuda 7200.10 250gb $75

lite-on or LG $35 0r $29
SHM-165H6S GSA-H10N

Antec SONATA II 450W SmartPower $100


Since your fonds are quite limited I wouldnt recommend a sound card for now. Get a good set of speakers and if you arent confortable with the sound (wich I highly doubt because onboard is HD nowadays) then get a sound card. The logitech X-530 are a good 5.1 set for a budget but if you arent that much into games look for a better set of 2.1 instead. These are $60.

Even that this is a good setup its not very overclockable due to its motherboard. If youre up for OCing or want to learn how to, the Gigabyte DS3 is a great motherboard for it that wont take all you money with it. I didnt post it in the setup because I would be going a too much over budget. There are ways to cut down on parts too even that I wouldnt recommend them.

This is a really good setup that will leave you alot of money for a nice set of speakers, a 12x10 monitor, and a mouse and keyboard. You can get a monitor for less than $150 and a m&k for $25.

Keep me posted on what youre thinking!
October 9, 2006 5:55:37 PM

well, let me ask u if building a pc is that tough? i mean ive installed a video card, and memory (which failed), but i have never really done stuff like install a processor or anything....

also, is there a big difference in performance between e6300 and e6400?
the price diffeerence is like 50 bucks...
it might just be a better idea to get a cheap MiR dell ands upgrade it....

im not sure.... any ideas are appreciated....
October 9, 2006 6:10:41 PM

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well, let me ask u if building a pc is that tough? i mean ive installed a video card, and memory (which failed), but i have never really done stuff like install a processor or anything....

also, is there a big difference in performance between e6300 and e6400?
the price diffeerence is like 50 bucks...
it might just be a better idea to get a cheap MiR dell ands upgrade it....

im not sure.... any ideas are appreciated....


Dells are hard to upgrade. It would be best just to build your own. Difference in the 6300 and 6400 is ghz speeds, and cache size. I would go for the E6300 and o'c to the e6400 speeds.
October 9, 2006 6:32:54 PM

I agree: I would stick with the E6300 as the $50 is not worth the slight performance improvement you can easily make up for with a little OC'ing in the future.
October 9, 2006 7:23:15 PM

Just a clarification. The only difference between an E6300 and an E6400 is processor speed. The E6600 has the 4MB cache. Both the E6300 and E6400 have a 2MB cache.

Go to www.monarchcomputer.com or something similiar. You can put in the components you want and it won't cost that much more to get it done. If you're up for learning on how to build your own, then go for it.

Otherwise, have someone else build it for now and learn more in the mean time so that you will be able to upgrade your current system.

This way you have a good case and power supply unit (PSU) to start with.

The system mentiond by rwaritsdario is what I would of recommended other than the mobo. I'd get the ASUS P5N SLI. It might be more expensive, but I think ASUS is better quality. And you want a good quality mobo. Upgrading CPU's, memory, video cards, etc. is easy. Upgrading a mobo is a pain as you will have to reinstall the operating system and every other program on your hard drive.

I read where the LAN didn't work on the ECS board for one user. Well, I had an ECS board where one of the USB ports quit working. And it only had 2 ports to begin with. I then upgraded to an ASUS board and have been extremely pleased with it.
October 11, 2006 12:11:51 AM

wait so a cpu installation is easy?
so whast tough? thmobo... yeah, but what else
i couldnt imagine a psu tough, or any of the easy stuff listed, what about hdd?
and dvd drives dont seem too tough at all...
idk, any more thoughts are really appreciated...
October 11, 2006 12:30:37 AM

omfg, wtf monarch's deals are like the freaking worse, they have a machine i configured almost exactly like the ones u guys made, for like $1500...

that sucks, but what about dells, or like gateways hp's or whatever being unupgradable?

is it because they use shitty parts like toshiba ram?(its in my 5 year old dell)

i dotn really know, if u were 14 and knew a lot about comps but were unsure about building them, would u? i dont have tons of money and if i build one and fuck up, then im screwed and just lost a whole fuck load of money...

so any thoiughts are good.
October 11, 2006 3:02:23 AM

Forget about buying any prebuilt sh!t. Were being man here and we'll build our own from scratch, from the ground up. The only thing you need to do to feel confident is to RESEARCH. Theres nothing better than that.
Find detailed pictured modern guides about building your own PC and read all the "beginner's guide" articles in tomshardware you can. You'll find out that installing just about anything is equally easy (not hard, easy).
The only place where you will waste you money is if you give it away to any PC building company...

As for my motherboard recommendation. Since you want something thatll be rock stable and with amazing features, something thatll never fail on you. Go for the Gigabyte DS3, its about twice as expensive but its worth it. Great OCing mobo too.

Even with the same stock cooler you can match the E6400 speeds on a E6300. They have the same amount on cache. But further than that I would recommend an aftermarket HSF. The Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro is a great one without breaking the bank. Itll outperform any HSF in its price range.
October 11, 2006 3:57:37 AM

I build a new computer every 12 to 18 months, so I'm not a polished pro. And I remember my first build, about 6 years ago. It was a little confusing. I plodded through it very slowly and very carefully, without much confidence, but when I finished and it worked, I felt great. Since then, I sometimes still have to research a problem (such as putting my current system together -- the bios in my DFI board was very complex to set up and OC), but that just makes the experience that more satisfying.
I'd say the physical installation/connection of the parts is really easy if you have a decent case. The challenge is to install the OS and set up your hard drive partitions like you want, and then install the drivers, virus program, etc in the right order to avoid problems. Not hard, just takes some planning. Then you spend hours downloading/installing updates for the OS and all your favorite programs. Finally, you research some more, and get knowledgeable enough and brave enough to overclock it. You can do it!
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October 11, 2006 11:50:06 AM

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I build a new computer every 12 to 18 months, so I'm not a polished pro. And I remember my first build, about 6 years ago. It was a little confusing. I plodded through it very slowly and very carefully, without much confidence, but when I finished and it worked, I felt great. Since then, I sometimes still have to research a problem (such as putting my current system together -- the bios in my DFI board was very complex to set up and OC), but that just makes the experience that more satisfying.
I'd say the physical installation/connection of the parts is really easy if you have a decent case. The challenge is to install the OS and set up your hard drive partitions like you want, and then install the drivers, virus program, etc in the right order to avoid problems. Not hard, just takes some planning. Then you spend hours downloading/installing updates for the OS and all your favorite programs. Finally, you research some more, and get knowledgeable enough and brave enough to overclock it. You can do it!


Very well said! I'm considering my first OC soon! I've built about 8 systems in the last 3 years and I'm finally considering an OC on a AMD 64 3200+ on a ASUS MVP motherboard, but still cautious about it, since it's only 3 month old (warranty issues).
October 11, 2006 1:08:21 PM

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Finally, you research some more, and get knowledgeable enough and brave enough to overclock it.


I would not recommend overclocking a first build, especially if you're 14, and dont' have money to replace stuff if you fry it.

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the bios in my DFI board was very complex to set up and OC


I feel your pain. And I don't even have a LanParty board.

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The challenge is to install the OS and set up your hard drive partitions like you want, and then install the drivers, virus program, etc in the right order to avoid problems.


IMO, the hardest part is to put all the hardware together. One silly mistake, and (if you're lucky), the computer won't boot. If you're unlucky, then you fry something.
October 11, 2006 1:18:25 PM

ok,
if you want to stay in budget it looks to me it ain't possible to go for a C2D and a decent LCD with native 1600 x 1200,
the LCD alone, should set you back like 350$
keyboard & mouse: 50$
ok, still 600 to go for a case, PSU, CPU, RAM, video, HD,..

checked my local store:
this what i came up with:
case
Thermaltake Matrix VX Black VD3000BWA € 82.50

mobo
Gigabyte 945PL S3 C+-ore2Duo S775 € 85.00

CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 - 2,13Ghz € 235.00

cooling:
stock

RAM:
OCZ DDR2 1Gb KIT pc6400/800Mhz Gold XTC € 184.00

sound:
onboard

HD:
SEAGATE 250Gb S-ATA300 7200RPM 16MB € 84.50

video:
XFX GEFORCE PCI-E 7600GS 256Mb DDR2 € 123.50

total: (no screen and keyboard): +/- 795 €

this the best i can do with the components from my local retailer,
maybe it's expensive around here, and the components aren't 100% compatible, didn't had the time to check, but it should give you an idea, what this will cost.
maybe wait a little until AMD could pressurize the prices of intel; or wait until December, with the holidays, prices may go down?
October 12, 2006 12:52:41 AM

drop the E6400 down to the E6300 and save $40
October 14, 2006 3:42:51 PM

just keep on speculating about this sh!t guys, itsa really helping, and im getting closer to thinking i should build a comp, but i am just 14, and i dont wanna lose money, so just keep talking about it...
October 14, 2006 6:19:43 PM
October 14, 2006 10:21:20 PM

Good try, but... I would get an ASRock 775 Dual MB only if moving your old DDR memory and/or AGP graphics card from an old maching to the new machine. If buying DDR2 & PCI Express, there are better choices. (See earlier suggestions.) The power supply with that particular Cooler Master case is weak and doesn't have two 12V lines; I'd get a better one. It is REALLY hard to build a good gaming machine for $1000 including the monitor. I like the suggestion that you put the monitor on your Christmas list - I'd ask Santa for a 19" LCD. Look for a used monitor real cheap for now (if you build before December). Then use it as a second screen when web surfing or doing homework so you can keep more windows visible. With that savings, you can get an E6400 and not feel as much need to OC.
October 15, 2006 12:43:08 AM

haha you guys are so bad at giving advice. If I read correctly he siad he wanted a MID RANGE comp, and also said he wasnt going to be hardcore gaming. So why would you recomend 2gb of ram. He will never need 2gb of ram. If you disagree look at his current system. lionhardt Id suggest only 1 gb of ram. Also the e6300 because that is more than enough, mybe even overkill. Id go with this vid card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681... . Seeing as its not overkill if you do light gaming.
October 15, 2006 2:19:36 AM

No, he said "mainly for gaming". (I must be blind, because I can't see where he said it wasn't going to be hard-core gaming. Maybe you were reading a different thread?) I doubt a 14 year old who says he wants a new computer mainly for gaming is thinking "light gaming". The amount of RAM depends on the games he will play. If he plays BF2, he'll want 2 Gb. His current system is no indication of what he wants -- he said it "sucks". I'm thinking it indicates he'll be using this new computer a long time, thus better to start off with a little more power than he may need today. He'll be getting new games right away, I'm sure.
October 15, 2006 2:28:24 AM

well, actually i want this to be mainly for gaming...
u know, umm quiet, so i could watch some porn at like 2 in the morning without my parents knowing....
the 7600gt is the perfect card for now because of the awesomeness of it
and 2 gigs of ram might not be a bad idea...really....
so uhh yea, just keep on speculating, but i think the hardest part will be the mobo, case, and psu cause i mean this sounds good so far:

e6300 ~180
7600gt ~110 after eebate on some cards
2gb ram ~200 (dont know what kind or brand)
mouse and kb ~25 microsoft combo
nice 19" lcd ~200 ish
250 gb hdd ~60 after ebates
i mean, what else is there mobo, case and psu might cost al together like about 200 so isk, just keep on talkin guys, keep on talking

and yes this wil be mainly for gaming, and porn
October 15, 2006 2:59:16 AM

19" Wide screen LCD: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...
$189

You might consider X850XT PE, it could support dual monitors and its very competitive with the 7600GT, and in some benchmarks its competitive against even better cards. It doesn't have the rebates, but it's only $129. I'm buying one soon. It's a great mid-range card.

If you want to lower your price by about $50, you could get a X800GTO, they're pretty impressive for the price, and compared to a 7600GS, much better.

Just a few options, pick what's good for you.

A good PSU
People have recommended this PSU to me, it's $49, reliable, and 450Watt.
October 15, 2006 3:25:52 AM

Porn is a bad idea. It will make it more difficult for you to do well in the real world, and have real relationships. It will warp your view of women -- those actresses are paid to do what they do and pretend. Don't get caught up in that addictive fantasy world. Instead, sleep at 2AM so you can be rested and alert when real life is happening.
October 15, 2006 3:39:18 AM

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Porn is a bad idea. It will make it more difficult for you to do well in the real world, and have real relationships. It will warp your view of women -- those actresses are paid to do what they do and pretend. Don't get caught up in that addictive fantasy world. Instead, sleep at 2AM so you can be rested and alert when real life is happening.
He's right. If you wanna get unaddicted, go lightly on the porn and reduce the amount you watch until you can stand not looking at it. Or, if you're mentally strong, go ahead and just delete all of it and keep yourself from it. Or install porn-blocking software.

The easiest thing to do is simply delete/throw away, and find something else to do...
October 15, 2006 1:47:42 PM

lol, wow, that really is a very good explanation why not to do that...
reader.... ur a good poster
how old are u guys....lol
yeah, i have dial up too, did i mention, so really there wasnt any looking at all
but anyway... ok lets plan out the final sh!t

im debating on the e6300 or e6400, i mean the 64 is opnly about 40 bucks more, and is 300mhz faster, whoich is cool

the 7600gt is a great card for now that wil;l last me mabye 2 years or soo (and it has the new shader model)

2gbs, i still have no clue on this, but im thinking around 200 bucks or less

m & kb dont really matter too much

im thinking a 19" lcd but without widescreen, only because of the weird res'es, but i mean most 19 inchers are 1280 x 1024 right?

ill look for a 250 gb ish hd with hopefully 16 megs of cache

but the mobo, i guess i want the 965p chipset, right?
SLI isnt really thast usefull is it?

the case i just want a cool looking one that has good ventilation and mabye a side window with one of those side fans i can attach that is blue and freaking awesome...and is a well known brand like antec or theramallake or somwething

with the power suplly i dont really know how many watts is enough but probably like 500 to stay on the safe side, or is that too much?

just saying this because oif the dx 10 cards i will get 2 years down the road...(although they will switch to an 80nm process by then)

ohhh and heres my current comp:

p3 933mhz
256mb sdram pc133
pny fx5500
40 gb hdd
yeha it sucks
October 15, 2006 7:22:35 PM

yeah, but that is an unknown brnadname, and this psu is 500w and is *FREE*

so that would cut the price a lot

also, ur 14 like me and ur giving me advice on porn? wtf? ur saying u dont think about girls, naked?

but yeah guys just keep talking about this sh1t
October 15, 2006 7:50:50 PM

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also, ur 14 like me and ur giving me advice on porn? wtf? ur saying u dont think about girls, naked?
Oh no, lol, I think about that sometimes. And yeah, I do feel weird giving advice on porn. :o  But I made a decision for my own good and I'm advising yours. :) 

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yeah, but that is an unknown brnadname, and this psu is 500w and is *FREE*
so that would cut the price a lot
While it's always nice to get things free/cheap, you still need to think about reliability. Your whole computer depends on the PSU. You don't want to get something cheap, but you don't have to buy something expensive. Get something in between.
450Watt $48.49 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...
500Watt, good reviews $48.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
500Watt $52.99, good reviews http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
500Watt $79.99 GOOD reviews http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

And, If you want to drop the total price about $30 or $50. Get a X800GTO
Benchmark: http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html?modelx=33&m...
As you can see, the X800GTO can be better than the 7600GS in some benchmarks for a much lower price. It's also the best card under $100 and the cheapest card that has a 256-bit interface, it's also GDDR3. I considered getting a 7600GS once, but then I saw that. And it made me start looking at ATI, they have some great deals :D 
October 15, 2006 9:32:15 PM

hehe, never did me any harm - now where did I put my white stick?
October 17, 2006 7:58:37 PM

okok, any more f'ing good ideas?
October 18, 2006 3:13:06 AM

Well, what do you need/want? And for what price?
October 18, 2006 5:50:53 AM

I might try the Optiquest for $195 & free shipping:
Optiquest by Viewsonic Q9b-2 Black 19" 8ms LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 700:1 Built in Speakers {You will want separate speakers ASAP}
But the trade off for including a monitor in a $1000 system is a slower video card and/or less DDR2 memory. I still recommend waiting for Santa to bring you a nice new gaming monitor. Pick up an old CRT somewhere real cheap for now, or wait to build after Christmas when prices will surely be lower for ~everything. Also, decide whether you will overclock; if you will OC, then get an E6300 and a MB that OCs well. If not, get a cheaper MB but get an E6400.
I like the first case suggestion: "Antec SONATA II 450W SmartPower $100" -- it is a nice quality quiet case with a good power supply.
But keep in mind, there are lots of "right" answers; much of the fun in picking your parts is deciding what YOU want.
October 20, 2006 1:22:50 AM

ok, so give me my final elite uber setup...
is 1gb of ram good for now? and then add another later? just gmme the final setup
October 20, 2006 3:10:42 AM

Answer these questions, and we'll give you specific recommendations. (1) Will you overclock your processor? (If so, you'll need a better MB. If not, I'd get the E6400 instead of the E6300.) (2) Will you buy your own LCD monitor as part of your $1000 price limit? (If not, you can get a better video card.) (3) Will you play Battlefield 2? (If so, you should get 2Gigs of RAM.) (4) Will you watch DVDs AND play games? (If so, most of the fast 19" gaming LCDs will dissappoint with movies, so you'd likely prefer a medium speed 19" monitor, or a 17".) (5) Do you need firewire capability? (For input of video, for example.) (6) Is your dollar limit $1,000 total? (Remember, for a new build, you have to "waste" $90 on WinXP OEM, so you'll really only have $910 for the hardware.)
October 20, 2006 12:37:14 PM

1 GB RAM is actually a bit light for a new setup now, as games are increasingly using more and more memory.

However, RAM is extremely expensive right now so it's your call.
October 20, 2006 9:17:31 PM

okok:

1. probably not, im14 dont want to screw it up, adn i want this to last for a decently long while, so mabye like 4 years

2. im still not even sure if my $1000 limit is my limit, yes i would probably include that into it, but who knows mabye not, just make a scenario for both i guess

3. most likely not, but i might, and even then if i ahve 1 gb it wont make that much iof a difference, and i can upgrade to 2 gigs in like 6 months then

4. well definently games, probably not too many movies at all

5. no, but isnt that integrated anyway?

6. i could get 50 bucks xp home easy mabye even less, and idk, i mean mabye even less then 100 bucks, im think 1000 is the limit, but i mean, arent there any cheaper c2d mobos?

7. its be cool to have a side window with one of those neon fans, and the 7600gt(110 after rebates) sounds like a good card now, since the mid range g80 cards wont come out till january anyway

8. im leaning towards 1gig only becasue i want to keep the price down, but 2 gigs seem so much of a better investment....idk
October 22, 2006 3:29:03 AM

Here is what Sharkey recommended last month - September Value Gaming PC Guide
http://www.sharkeyextreme.com/guides/MVGSBG/article.php...
Case: Antec Sonata II (with 450W PSU) - $89
CPU: Core 2 Duo E6300 (1.86GHz) Retail - $186
Cooling: included Retail HSF - $0
Motherboard: AS Rock ConRoeXFire (i945P) - $81
Memory: 1-GB (2x512-MB) Generic PC2-4300 - $83
Hard Drive: 120GB WD Caviar SE (8-MB) SATA 3.0 Gb/s - $55
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT 256MB (PCIe) - $153
Monitor: 17" LCD with 8-12ms Refresh - $160
Sound Card: 8-Channel Integrated - $0
Speakers: Logitech X-530 6-Piece Speaker System - $53
CD/DVD-ROM: LG GSA-H10NB 16X DVD Writer - $29
Communications: Onboard LAN - $0
Mouse: Logitech MX310 - $23
Keyboard: Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard - $15
Operating System: Windows XP Home - $74
Total: $1,001 <but those were last month’s prices>
This fits your requirements pretty closely, and I endorse the choices, except for the motherboard and monitor (I prefer 19”). I have Antec cases and PSs, WD hard drives, Logitec speakers, and that mouse. Since that ASRock board doesn’t overclock well, get the E6400 instead. Or get a better motherboard; those with the Intel P965 chipset are better, and overclock well; consider the Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 ~140 , or maybe the Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 ~115 (they don’t have firewire). But I’m really not very familiar with C2D boards yet, so can’t give the best motherboard advice. You’ll want 2GB RAM at some point, so get a 1GB stick, not two 512s. I really urge that you get a bit more $ and upgrade that motherboard and get 2x1GB RAM if you can, then study overclocking carefully and try it once you learn how, just be conservative. If you pick a cheap flashy case, don’t get stuck with an inferior PS, which is what most of them come with. A quality power supply is very important.
October 22, 2006 4:27:44 AM

I just finishing building this system for someone with a limit of roughly 650.

As is this sytem comes in at 711.93

PROCESSOR
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Conroe 1.86GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6300 - Retail - 183.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681...

MOTHERBOARD
ABIT AB9 Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail - 128.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681...

RAM
G.SKILL 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) System Memory Model F2-6400PHU1-1GBNR - Retail - 129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1682...

VIDEO CARD
SAPPHIRE 100106L Radeon X850XT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail - 120.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681...

POWER SUPPLY
Rosewill RE502-BLK ATX12V V1.3 500W Aluminum Power Supply - Retail
- 47.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681...

HARD DRIVE
Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3160811AS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM - 56.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1682...

CASE
Linkworld 3210-04-C2628 Black/Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail - 24.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681...

OPTICAL DRIVE
SAMSUNG 18X DVD±R DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write Black E-IDE/ATAPI Model SH-S182D - OEM - 28.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Add the few parts you need

MONITOR
Acer AL1706Ab Black 17" 8ms LCD Monitor - Retail 165.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Keyboard/mouse/speakers
Cyber Acoustics CA-4100rb 45 watts 4.1 Speaker - Retail 25.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1683...

Keyboard and mouse are casual devices pick whatever one you want i picked up the desktop duo from logitech

Logitech 967742-0403 Black USB RF Wireless Standard Deluxe 650 Cordless Desktop Mouse Included - OEM - 25.75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Operating System
Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 w/SP2B - OEM - 109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1683...


Total system price is $1,039.65 to save money id sacrifice to windows home and maybe a less expensive monitor or buy one at your local department store to save shipping as well. I think this is an excellent system should do you well.
October 22, 2006 4:37:41 AM

Here is the AnandTech Buyer’s Guide system from Sept 26:
http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.aspx?i=2839&p=3
Processor Core 2 Duo E6300 (775 - 1.86 GHz 2048K)
$183.00
Motherboard MSI P965 Neo-F
$100.00
Memory 2x1024MB GeIL PC2-5300 Value
$238.00
Video Card Gigabyte GV-NX76G256D-RH GeForce 7600GS 256MB (fanless)
$103.00
Hard Drive Samsung 3.0Gbps 250GB 7200RPM 8MB SpinPoint P
$76.00
Optical Drive NEC ND-3550A 16X DVD+/-RW
$30.00
Display Acer AL1916WAbd Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD
$202.00
Case and PSU GIGABYTE GZ-X1 Black 0.6mm SECC w/350W Power Supply $94.00
Keyboard and Mouse Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 with Optical Mouse
$28.00
Operating System Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 SP2B (OEM)
$115.00
Bottom Line $1,169.00

For gaming I wouldn’t get a widescreen monitor. Read reviews on 5ms gaming monitors before you choose one. I wouldn’t get Media Center Edition. Notice their comments concerning the motherboard choice, and ASRock boards:
Quote:
Unlike the AMD platform, picking an ideal motherboard for socket 775 is a bit trickier. We could always go with one of the cheap ASRock motherboards that we have reviewed recently, but most of those are a bit quirky and none of them overclock very well. For a midrange system, we really don't want to skimp on the motherboard at all, and the most reasonable choice is to get a board that uses the P965 chipset. The MSI P965 Neo-F gets our recommendation, as it is currently the cheapest P965 motherboard available and it still performs reasonably well. It won't overclock as high as many of the other offerings on the market, but it is a very solid offering overall. The ECS P965 P965T-A and Foxconn P9657AA-8KS2H are similar in terms of stability, features, and overclocking support -- better in some areas, and worse in others. After our talk above about how high the E6300 can overclock, we need to make it absolutely clear that you'll never come near those overclock levels with any of the three motherboards we've just mentioned. Plan on flashing the BIOS as well, as the vast majority of P965 motherboards have had some serious memory compatibility issues with the initial BIOS revisions. Assuming you can live with those limitations, at $100 the board is still a reasonable option, but you do get what you pay for.

Veg did a great job stretching dollars for the system he describes above.
Now you have plenty of recommendations. Make your choices and JUST DO IT!
October 22, 2006 4:43:05 AM

You already had a better setup in mind that the two posts above recommend. If you need new, best $/performance recommendations or something has changed, ask me personally.
October 22, 2006 4:51:57 AM

I would simply say look at the build above mine and mine and readers and pick what you like best and if necessary ask questions or get more information first.. Personally i like mine hehe but then again whos going to badmouth there own build hehe.
October 22, 2006 5:05:45 AM

if u want a gd guide, look for a magazine by pc gamer called pc building bible 2006

i build comps all the time, but i hav it so when someone else wants to learn, or needs a definition bout something i use it as kind of a dictionary
October 22, 2006 6:23:57 AM

Just make sure you install the Service packs from Microsoft, and if you are buying a new copy of the XP, get one that has XP2 on it.

Since cash is limiting you now, and since you will be only be 15 next year :)  , upgrading to Vista and DX10 would be expensive, so buy the beefiest DX9 video card you can right now, so you will be happily gaming when you are only 15.
October 22, 2006 8:13:58 AM

you mean this?

Quote:
Q. How does this licensing policy affect products such as Microsoft Windows XP Professional?

A. Microsoft Windows XP Professional and Microsoft Windows XP Home are not affected by this policy as they are licensed per installation and not per processor. Windows XP Professional can support up to two processors regardless of the number of cores on the processor. Microsoft Windows XP Home supports one processor.


i think it's saying you can only use 1 processor per installation of home not how many cores you can have.
October 22, 2006 1:48:47 PM

Quote:
you mean this?

Q. How does this licensing policy affect products such as Microsoft Windows XP Professional?

A. Microsoft Windows XP Professional and Microsoft Windows XP Home are not affected by this policy as they are licensed per installation and not per processor. Windows XP Professional can support up to two processors regardless of the number of cores on the processor. Microsoft Windows XP Home supports one processor.


i think it's saying you can only use 1 processor per installation of home not how many cores you can have.

Yes, you are right. I should really stop posting late at night. Sorry for the confusion.
October 22, 2006 4:31:37 PM

And you posted that mistake like in three threads lol but NP
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