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anyone know where to find a 7600GT AGP card??

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They've mysteriously disappeared from major retailers...Don't know if they are coming back, NewEgg's taken them off their site completely. No other retailers I know of have them in stock.

~Ibrahim~

Reply to ikjadoon

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anyone know where to find a 7600GT AGP card??



www.overclockers.co.uk

Reply to quantumsheep

Oh, yeah. Forgot about them..

~Ibrahim~

P.S. Love the sig!

Reply to ikjadoon

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P.S. Love the sig!



Everyone loves a bit of truth every now and then.

Reply to quantumsheep
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Try looking up the 7600GS.I believe that is how they are listing it these days.However,they are difficult to find as AGP is dying.At least that's what the experts keep saying.LOL.Goodluck.

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Reply to Dahak
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get a x800xtpe (or just x800xt) off ebay for under £100, bargain of the century if you ask me, in the vga charts, it beats the 7600gt hands down on framerate, despite its lack of shader model 3 support.

Reply to parge

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Try looking up the 7600GS.I believe that is how they are listing it these days.



No it's not!

The GF7600GT is the GT, the GS is the GS, and the GS is grap compared to the GT. Your statement is like saying the GF7800GT is the same as the GF7900GTO.

Seriously, if you don't know, don't post just to increase your post count. :roll:

To the OP: the GF7600GT as has been mentioned is in extremely short supply.
The GF7600GSs are out there, but they suck in comparison, they're X1600 territory losing to an X1650, not X850 territory like the GT. And... at that point you might as well look to the rest of your machine for an upgrade.

Places like NCIX still have them listed, but they are special order;
http://www.us.ncix.com/products/in [...] re=Leadtek

Reply to TheGreatGrapeApe
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how does the X800GTO or X850 Pro compare to the 7600GT or X850XT?? or how about the 7800GS

Reply to MrMJS

Oh, God, not this discussion again. (Not your fault, but this topic has been widely discussed.)

Well, have you read the October "Best Graphic Cards for the Money" article? It'll save us some explaining. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do check out the VGA charts. They should be a major deciding factor in your choice.

7600GT=X850XT PE (They're close enough, IMO)

7800GS>X850XT PE

7800GS>7600GT

X850XT PE>X800GTO

7800GS>7600GT/X850XT PE>X800GTO

But, do check out the VGA charts. Don't let my answer stop you.

~Ibrahim~

P.S. Yeah, GT>>>GS

Reply to ikjadoon
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I wanted to get either the 7600GT or X850XT but i cant find either one, so i might get the 7800GS

Reply to MrMJS
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7600GT=X850XT PE (They're close enough, IMO)

7800GS>X850XT PE

7800GS>7600GT



I don't agree with your pecking order. 7600GT does not equal X850XTpe IMO. The X850XTpe outperforms the 7800GS in many reviews including NV favoring Anandtech. I call them equal performers with overclocking and features making the 7800GS a better buy. 7600GT would be a little bit behind these two.

At 7800GS launch, X850XTpe was faster but more expensive:
"Even though the X850 XTPE is generally faster than the new NVIDIA part, the price tag is a little steeper as well, at about $400. This leaves ATI holding onto a claim for the fastest AGP solution out there, but the feature set of the 7 series part is a bit more refined than that of the venerable X850. "

From their conclusion X850XTpe > 7800GS performance wise.
Link: http://www.anandtech.com/video/sho [...] i=2686&p=9



Anyway, I stick to this AGP pecking order:
1) Gainward Bliss 24 and 20 pipe 7800GS
2) 7800GS/ X850XTpe
3) X850XT/X800XTpe/6800U/7600GT
4) X800XT
5) 6800GT/X800XL/X850 pro




OP: 7600GT AGP sure are rare. But there are good signs it will get better as up until this point it has be Leadtek only. Now XFX has 2 AGP 7600GT's listed on their website, one being a high clocked XXX edition. These are not available yet, but hopefully will be soon.

http://www.xfxforce.com/web/produc [...] nId=650008

http://www.xfxforce.com/web/produc [...] nId=650010

Reply to pauldh
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http://search.ncix.com/displayprod [...] acture=XFX

Not a bad Canadian price for the XXX version if only it were in stock.

Reply to pauldh

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http://search.ncix.com/displayprod [...] acture=XFX

Not a bad Canadian price for the XXX version if only it were in stock.



If you check my link you get the US prices. 8)

Reply to TheGreatGrapeApe
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Ya always gotta be one step better huh. :D

I actually didn't even realize that was the same site as your Leadtek link. I stumbled upon it during some rigorous Googling. :roll: I was just surprised as that's the first XFX AGP 7600GT I've seen besides XFX's product pages. Should be popping up soon I'd think.

Reply to pauldh

How'd I miss that review? Thanks for the link. Make sure I remember that.

God, I'd love that Gainward card. It costs around the price of 7900GT (AFAIK) with around equal performance....I'd take the 7600GT, as well.

~Ibrahim~

Reply to ikjadoon
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Try looking up the 7600GS.I believe that is how they are listing it these days.



No it's not!

The GF7600GT is the GT, the GS is the GS, and the GS is grap compared to the GT. Your statement is like saying the GF7800GT is the same as the GF7900GTO.

Seriously, if you don't know, don't post just to increase your post count. :roll:

To the OP: the GF7600GT as has been mentioned is in extremely short supply.
The GF7600GSs are out there, but they suck in comparison, they're X1600 territory losing to an X1650, not X850 territory like the GT. And... at that point you might as well look to the rest of your machine for an upgrade.

Places like NCIX still have them listed, but they are special order;
http://www.us.ncix.com/products/in [...] re=Leadtek

Major TRUE!

Reply to pmr

Can anybody tell me how x1650 pro compares with x800 xt and 7600 gt.
Thanks

Reply to hussainshah

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Can anybody tell me how x1650 pro compares with x800 xt and 7600 gt.
Thanks



The X1650Pro is essentially a X1600XT. With that being said, the 7600GT and X800XT are a lot better. If you take a look on the VGA Charts, the 7600GT is a lot better. The X800XT is better than the 7600GT , but it is hard to find.

Note: the above is PCI-Express although the X800XT outperforms both anyway

Hope that helps :)

Reply to unbiased4u

the all in wonder x800xt is available for 160 dollars....is it the same as the x800 xt without tuner......I don't need the ntsc tuner as i am living in an pal region so i am kind of confused.
So some body suggest to me out of the following what is the best bang for buck.
x800xt $160
6600gt $85
x1650 $128
7300gs $138

Reply to hussainshah
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This would be a better deal than any of those.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102606

Reply to kaotao

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This would be a better deal than any of those.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102606



agreed. For $130 and AGP you get VIVO and the opportunity to unlock pipelines (actually flash BIOS) to an X850XT. And proceed to overclock. It is a great deal!

Reply to unbiased4u

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This would be a better deal than any of those.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102606



agreed. For $130 and AGP you get VIVO and the opportunity to unlock pipelines (actually flash BIOS) to an X850XT. And proceed to overclock. It is a great deal!

but you only get shader model 2. :(

Reply to dude3572
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This would be a better deal than any of those.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102606



agreed. For $130 and AGP you get VIVO and the opportunity to unlock pipelines (actually flash BIOS) to an X850XT. And proceed to overclock. It is a great deal!

but you only get shader model 2. :(

Yes, but sm3.0 is only worth it if the card is powerful enough to fully utilize it. IMO, anything below a 7600GT isn't worth buying just for that feature. So, if you must buy now, and can't wait for the GT's to come back in stock, that X850pro would be a better buy than say a 7600GS.

Reply to kaotao
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This would be a better deal than any of those.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102606



agreed. For $130 and AGP you get VIVO and the opportunity to unlock pipelines (actually flash BIOS) to an X850XT. And proceed to overclock. It is a great deal!

but you only get shader model 2. :(

Yes, but sm3.0 is only worth it if the card is powerful enough to fully utilize it. IMO, anything below a 7600GT isn't worth buying just for that feature. So, if you must buy now, and can't wait for the GT's to come back in stock, that X850pro would be a better buy than say a 7600GS.

but it is not definite he will get a card with unlockable pipelines

x800xt on ebay is the way to go

Reply to parge
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But $130 for a X850 pro is a great deal. At stock speeds it can't be beat for the money. And forgeting about unlocking, the X850 pro should be good for a decent OC if desired. The $130 alternatives are crappy in comparison. But I'm all for a $170 7600GT or X850XT if the OP can find one.

Reply to pauldh
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Yes, but sm3.0 is only worth it if the card is powerful enough to fully utilize it. IMO, anything below a 7600GT isn't worth buying just for that feature. So, if you must buy now, and can't wait for the GT's to come back in stock, that X850pro would be a better buy than say a 7600GS.


I totally agree.

Reply to pauldh

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the 7600 gt agp are in stock at newegg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150200



Gasp! By XFX! LeadTek used to be the only manufacturer of an AGP 7600GT. There must have been news on this somewhere...

I still think you should get an X850Pro

Reply to unbiased4u
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Hey, good to see the newcomer. They have the XXX version too. $199 is steep, but I bet it would come close to a reference 7800GS.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150201

Reply to pauldh
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Gasp! By XFX! LeadTek used to be the only manufacturer of an AGP 7600GT. There must have been news on this somewhere...


I linked to both those cards on XFX's website up higher in this thread. They were not in stock anywhere then though.

Reply to pauldh

No one has still answere my question:

The x800 xt all in wonder is for 160 dollars. while the simple x800 xt is for more than 200$. Why is this?

Also I am relatively novice to Over Clocking World. So somebody please tell me whether buying 850 pro would be a good option.

Is performance of 850 pro at stock speeds better than 1650 pro. Would unlocking pipelines be simple and after unlocking how would it compare to other graphic cards i.e. 7600gt and gs.

Now that 7600gt is available what should i buy then. Thanking all of you in advance for your help.

Reply to hussainshah

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Gasp! By XFX! LeadTek used to be the only manufacturer of an AGP 7600GT. There must have been news on this somewhere...


I linked to both those cards on XFX's website up higher in this thread. They were not in stock anywhere then though.

Ah, now I see. Sorry about that. At least they're in stock now.

Reply to unbiased4u
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No one has still answere my question:

The x800 xt all in wonder is for 160 dollars. while the simple x800 xt is for more than 200$. Why is this?



Makes no sense I know, but It's been that way for ages. Greater supply of the AIWX800XT. They moved onto production of the X850XT, but didn't replace the AIW800XT with a AIWX850XT. The AIW has off and on been one of the best higher end AGP deals out there. 7600GT and X850XT would be a little faster.

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Also I am relatively novice to Over Clocking World. So somebody please tell me whether buying 850 pro would be a good option.

You don't have to OC it, but they are pretty decent OC'ers if you want a boost.

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Is performance of 850 pro at stock speeds better than 1650 pro.


Yes, the X850 pro is easily faster.

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Would unlocking pipelines be simple and after unlocking how would it compare to other graphic cards i.e. 7600gt and gs.


IMO don't count on it unlocking. It may, but probably won't. it's not really hard (but can be a bit risky) and if successful it would be equal to a X850XT or 7600GT.
http://www.overclock.net/faqs/4493 [...] xt-pe.html


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Now that 7600gt is available what should i buy then. Thanking all of you in advance for your help.


Personally, If I could gather up the cash I would buy the 7600GT, but the X850 pro is outstanding for the price. With either card you are getting the most for the money in AGP. [/quote]

Reply to pauldh

Not that you need it, but....

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Personally, If I could gather up the cash I would buy the 7600GT, but the X850 pro is outstanding for the price. With either card you are getting the most for the money in AGP.



I approve this message.

Yeah GF7600GT is getting to the tipping point due to features and thier incorporation in future games, plus PureVideo (no AVIVO HD for X850), but X800/850 prices are making it a tougher decision.

Reply to TheGreatGrapeApe

Any benchmarks on the new XFX's in comparison to x800\850 xt\pe and the leadtek 7600 gt ?

Reply to forbdwiz
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LOL, no I definately don't need another high end AGP. I meant Personally if I were in his shoes, I'd try for the 7600GT.

Reply to pauldh
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No benchies from what I have seen. The reference speed XFX should perform the same as the Leadtek and Reference PCI-e 7600GT's. While the higher clocked XXX version should be equal to a PCI-e one at the same clocks. I would like to see the XXX 7600GT vs. a reference and OC'ed 7800GS though. I'd imagine the XXX will match the 7800GS and X850XTpe at stock speeds.

Hopefully retail versions will be tested by some good review site so we can see performance comparisons and OC results.

Reply to pauldh

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the 7600 gt agp are in stock at newegg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150200



Gasp! By XFX! LeadTek used to be the only manufacturer of an AGP 7600GT. There must have been news on this somewhere...


Yes, other messageboards were talking about XFX last week. The XFX website had the cards listed for at least two weeks. I heard they were selling in Europe by that time.

$199 does seem a bit high at first, but it is identical with retail store prices that I've seen in San Jose area stores. The 7600GT runs a bit faster than even the 7800GS in some cases, so I would say it is a good buy.

Reply to Mach5Motorsport

LOL! Yes, I know, not approving the way you said it (implying you need another card, yeah right! :tongue: ) just the sentiment that it's the wise choise, but the X8xxs remain attractive due to price.

Reply to TheGreatGrapeApe

I guess I'm just not keeping up with the news (school is quite busy) :oops:

Anyways, $200 seems too pricey for a 7600GT XXX, especially considering that the 7800GS OC by BFG is only $10 more on Newegg.com (after MIR). It is a very good performer, however, I don't think you should spend too much money on an AGP card. Not worth it IMO, you'll be upgrading to a new platform anyway.

As for the X800XT being more expensive than the AIW version, as Paul said, it's all about price and demand. If people demand more of the regular version, then supply goes down and prices go up. And since demand is low for the AIW, the price falls because the retailers have to get rid of inventory.

Unlocking might not work right. If it doesn't work, you can always flash back to the original BIOS. Sometimes it is successful but there are damaged pipelines so the picture is jumbled. If successful, it will perform as an X850XT, which is comparable to the 7600GT. (LOL :lol: I'm actually registered at that site! I love the site. Great info! ;))

The 7600GT is a great card, however the X8x0 series prices are so tempting! Though they don't have SM2.0 (which IMO doesn't matter that much) the series has much raw horsepower and can power most current games (at certain resolutions)

The X850Pro for $130 beats everything in that price range (for AGP), a bump up would be the X800XT AIW for $160 (It outperforms the 7600GT in most games according to the VGA charts). Though the 7600GT is great too! Sm3.0 support, enough power, quiet, power sipping, video card! If you can fork over enough for a 7600GT, go for it! Though I believe the X850Pro and X800XT to be equally good choices ;)

Reply to unbiased4u

Thankyou all for your help. One last question:). which is better performance wise x850 pro or x800 xt.

Reply to hussainshah
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(At stock speeds) The X800XT is faster with it's 16-pipes and fairly high clock speeds. The lower clocked 16-pipe X800XL is about the same as the X850 pro, maybe a tiny bit ahead still.
Ranking of the X8xx series from the top down :
X850XTPE
X800XTPE/ X850XT
X800XT
X800XL/X850 pro
X800 pro/X800 GTO 256MB

Reply to pauldh

Kindly tell me about this deal. I am going to finalize my decision today:

7600gs for 118$ vs 850 pro for 130$

Also please tell me which is the more silent one.

Reply to hussainshah

X850 PRO is the better card overall but the 7600 GS is a little bit quieter.

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