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ATI 9500 Pro 128 MB vs Nvidia 5500 FX 26 MB card

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Evan00019   10-09-2006 at 12:19:13 AM

Ok I know both of these cards are ancient by todays standards but I just rebuilt a system from parts from two other systems for a customer and they said I could keep what I wanted. Of the above listed cards (I currently have the 5500 installed on my system) which one would you recomend? Other system specs are:

P4 2.8GHZ Processor
ASUS PrP800 MB
1 GIG of DDR400 Ram (PC3200 I think)
High speed internet and a Soundblaster live 5.1 card.

Please post you're recomendations. Thanks! (Note: I do plan on upgrading the card and memory in the next 2 months so this is a band aid on a sucking chest wound but I'd still like the better of the two band aids.)

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The_Abyss   10-09-2006 at 12:35:54 AM
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It depends what you're using it for, but I seem to recall that 9500's were very popular and overclocked extremely well. I also seem to remember that they were in very limited supply, certainly in the UK. I'd lean towards that - the entire 5xxx series was awful, epitomised by the 5800.

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Silver Graphics badge TheGreatGrapeApe   10-09-2006 at 12:44:47 AM
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R9500Pro would clobber an FX5500, especially in recent games, heck it usually beats an FX5600/5700Ultra regardless of revision, and when playing DX9 stuff it usually beats the FX5900 series. In Oblivion the R9500P would decimate an FX5950U.

For an old review of the R9500P against an FX5700U (far FAR better than the FX5500/5600) Xbit has a huge list of cards/tests from the beginning of last year;

Tests:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/v [...] 7gpu2.html

Pre-amble:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/v [...] 27gpu.html

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melarcky   10-09-2006 at 12:56:57 AM
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TAKE the 9500 trust me on DX9 games it will destroy the fx 5500 i had a fx 5500 its just horrible with any game that wants DX9.

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quantumsheep   10-09-2006 at 01:39:25 AM
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It depends what you're using it for, but I seem to recall that 9500's were very popular and overclocked extremely well. I also seem to remember that they were in very limited supply, certainly in the UK. I'd lean towards that - the entire 5xxx series was awful, epitomised by the 5800.



Ahh the 5800...I remember that "dustbuster". A friend of mine bought one, thought he was the shizznizz. I then got my 9700PRO and totally trounced his card in every single benchmark, you can't believe how mad he was!

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melarcky   10-09-2006 at 02:36:15 AM
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It depends what you're using it for, but I seem to recall that 9500's were very popular and overclocked extremely well. I also seem to remember that they were in very limited supply, certainly in the UK. I'd lean towards that - the entire 5xxx series was awful, epitomised by the 5800.



Ahh the 5800...I remember that "dustbuster". A friend of mine bought one, thought he was the shizznizz. I then got my 9700PRO and totally trounced his card in every single benchmark, you can't believe how mad he was!
hahaha SHIZZNIZZZ.
hahaha what was NVIDIA THINKING?

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Flopmouth_Fish   10-09-2006 at 03:27:51 AM
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9500 Pro eats FX5500 for breakfast, then proceeds to eat the FX5800 for lunch, and, finally, the FX5900 for dinner.

Quite simply, the 9500 Pro eats the whole FX series alive.

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ikjadoon   10-09-2006 at 03:29:50 AM
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9500Pro eats FX5500 for breakfast, then proceeds to eat the FX5800 for lunch, and, finally, the FX5900 for dinner.



And burps out blackend caps and what looks like to be the remains of a heatsink...

~Ibrahim~

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AntiHax0r   10-09-2006 at 03:35:24 AM
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9500pro > 5500 ...

Uh I've heard that you could also flash bios/unlock pipelines to a 9500pro making it a 9700.. heck a 9700 still kicks arse thesedays .. some games like BF2 and Q4 will run perfectly on like med settings

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raven_87   10-09-2006 at 03:49:58 AM
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Thats because ATI underestimated the initial demand of the 9500 and 9700 series. So in order to make up for deficeits...they shipped a few batches of R300 based 9500's. Then when many people realized what they had...boom, PCB switch and different memory config. I had two.....one was successful, the other was too...but the 2nd would checkerboard on desktop, games etc etc.

end rate. 9500 without question

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unbiased4u   10-09-2006 at 04:14:45 AM
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The FX5500 is terrible. It actually even underperforms below my GF4 Ti4200 64MB!! The 9500 Pro however, is a lot better because it can overclock and unlock pipelines to a 9700 Pro, making it a great choice.

Proof that the FX5500 sucks badly.
edit: go to the next page. It's even worse! 8O

Bottom line: 9500 Pro FTW!!

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Flopmouth_Fish   10-09-2006 at 04:24:39 AM
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9500Pro eats FX5500 for breakfast, then proceeds to eat the FX5800 for lunch, and, finally, the FX5900 for dinner.



And burps out blackend caps and what looks like to be the remains of a heatsink...

~Ibrahim~

I forgot to mention: The FX 5200 is its midnight snack :lol:

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pauldh   10-09-2006 at 04:44:29 AM
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Listen to GrApe. 9500 pro for sure. In HL2 the FX5500 defaults to DX8 and slows to a crawl if your force DX9. 9500 pro is a far better card. I still have one in use myself.

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quantumsheep   10-09-2006 at 11:55:51 AM
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9500Pro eats FX5500 for breakfast, then proceeds to eat the FX5800 for lunch, and, finally, the FX5900 for dinner.



And burps out blackend caps and what looks like to be the remains of a heatsink...

~Ibrahim~

Surely that'd give you the sh1ts, REALLY BAD. Something that hot can't be good for your system :P

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ikjadoon   10-09-2006 at 06:34:24 PM
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lmao!

~Ibrahim~

P.S. Damn it, need to quit posting. Had "1337" count a few minutes ago...

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quantumsheep   10-09-2006 at 06:54:59 PM
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lmao!

~Ibrahim~

P.S. Damn it, need to quit posting. Had "1337" count a few minutes ago...



Haha...I havne't quite reached that point. Only passed 666 around a month ago.

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melarcky   10-09-2006 at 07:30:49 PM
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lmao!

~Ibrahim~

P.S. Damn it, need to quit posting. Had "1337" count a few minutes ago...



Haha...I havne't quite reached that point. Only passed 666 around a month ago.
well lets hope you are helping alot of ppl. i was at 100 around 2months ago.

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ikjadoon   10-09-2006 at 10:58:38 PM
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Yeah...I remember when I got my Avatar, was so happy! You know, I say the more your post count is, the bigger avatar you get. Mind you, there might be a few people who don't deserve them, but...

~Ibrahim~

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melarcky   10-10-2006 at 11:12:10 AM
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Yeah...I remember when I got my Avatar, was so happy! You know, I say the more your post count is, the bigger avatar you get. Mind you, there might be a few people who don't deserve them, but...

~Ibrahim~


so was i but i couldnt find a small enough pic and i didnt have photoshop so used PAINT hahaha

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thechristopher   10-10-2006 at 11:44:12 AM
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I now use the heatsink and fan to cool the mobo chipset.

At least the FX 5500 had some use!!!

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thechristopher   10-10-2006 at 11:45:44 AM
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Posted over 100 but stil says 37?????????????????????

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melarcky   10-10-2006 at 11:59:01 AM
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I now use the heatsink and fan to cool the mobo chipset.

At least the FX 5500 had some use!!!


i think you would make Nvidia proud :)

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fainis   10-10-2006 at 01:54:55 PM
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Ok I know both of these cards are ancient by todays standards but I just rebuilt a system from parts from two other systems for a customer and they said I could keep what I wanted. Of the above listed cards (I currently have the 5500 installed on my system) which one would you recomend? Other system specs are:

P4 2.8GHZ Processor
ASUS PrP800 MB
1 GIG of DDR400 Ram (PC3200 I think)
High speed internet and a Soundblaster live 5.1 card.

Please post you're recomendations. Thanks! (Note: I do plan on upgrading the card and memory in the next 2 months so this is a band aid on a sucking chest wound but I'd still like the better of the two band aids.)



i think all the guys made it quite clear ...9500 was samething that ati should be proud of....

i you have the card is very good over the joke that was 5500....
same 9550 would be very very very good.....i sold hundreds of them and not even one came back ...except for same low brands (i don`t give names)...

the entire fx series from nvidia was a joke indeed ..expecially when ati had their 9xxx cards...

and one more aspect ....5500 was made for dx8.1 (not 100% ...maybe i should check that :lol: ) and 9500 was made for dx9....

even modern games like f.e.a.r or obly can be played ...with 9500 ...low resolution ...but playable .....

well to make a long story short ...go for 9500...absolutly no regrets....
...in my opinion 9500 will go over 6200...and 9600..will go ever 6600...

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thechristopher   10-10-2006 at 02:06:30 PM
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How far will the ATI overclock.

The FX 5500 will go from 300/400 to 350/450 no probs.

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unbiased4u   10-10-2006 at 02:45:42 PM
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Here is a guide to overclocking/flashing the 9500: ;)

Some people have OC'ed the 9500 to 389/315. Although 320/305 is a nice boost without mods. The FX series was bogus (except maybe the FX5700U or FX5950U, but the 9800XT and 9700Pro were better than both)

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quantumsheep   10-10-2006 at 04:48:56 PM
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Here is a guide to overclocking/flashing the 9500: ;)

Some people have OC'ed the 9500 to 389/315. Although 320/305 is a nice boost without mods. The FX series was bogus (except maybe the FX5700U or FX5950U, but the 9800XT and 9700Pro were better than both)



9700PRO is my favourite card ever, bar none. So far ahead of it's time, it's still usable today! Plays HL2 on Max detail fine with no hitches. I treasure mine and still use it when i want to play some 4 person LAN.

I've had it for around 4 years now, for me that is amazing staying power.

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Cleeve   10-10-2006 at 04:53:00 PM
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The 9500 Pro however, is a lot better because it can overclock and unlock pipelines to a 9700 Pro!



Only the 9500's could unlock. They came with 4 pipelines, and some would unlock to 8 pipelines.
Some 9500's had a 256-bit memory interface, these are the ones that made it to 9700'sif they unlkocked. If they had a 1238-bit interface, they could unlock to 9500 PROs.

9500 PRO's already have 8 pipelines enabled, but they have a 128-bit memory interface you can't modify.

How is it done? Check the avatar! :twisted:

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quantumsheep   10-10-2006 at 04:56:28 PM
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The 9500 Pro however, is a lot better because it can overclock and unlock pipelines to a 9700 Pro!



Only the 9500's could unlock. They came with 4 pipelines, and some would unlock to 8 pipelines.
Some 9500's had a 256-bit memory interface, these are the ones that made it to 9700'sif they unlkocked. If they had a 1238-bit interface, they could unlock to 9500 PROs.

9500 PRO's already have 8 pipelines enabled, but they have a 128-bit memory interface you can't modify.

How is it done? Check the avatar! :twisted:

I paid for my 9700PRO...Cheapskates! :p

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