Rahul Sood recently got some Kentsfield samples from Intel and is really impressed with them. He reportedly could not overload the system even with multiple instances of Prime95 and DVD burning.
It looks like two Core 2s will be faster than one. Duhhhh!
Linkage!
I think I'm going to die... the end of the world is coming...
Naww, what did we expect, for him to say that it sucked?
2 + 2 = 4
2 x 2 = 4
4 = 4
Its the architecture not the implementation.
| Quote : Rahul Sood recently got some Kentsfield samples from Intel and is really impressed with them. He reportedly could not overload the system even with multiple instances of Prime95 and DVD burning.
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See if you hadn't said DUHHH this thread might not have got you flamed.
Again, no offence.
| Quote : Rahul Sood recently got some Kentsfield samples from Intel and is really impressed with them. He reportedly could not overload the system even with multiple instances of Prime95 and DVD burning.
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See if you hadn't said DUHHH this thread might not have got you flamed.
Again, no offence.
I thought we could all take a joke. That one was for all the folks who keep saying I doubted Kentsfield.
| Quote : Rahul Sood recently got some Kentsfield samples from Intel and is really impressed with them. He reportedly could not overload the system even with multiple instances of Prime95 and DVD burning.
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See if you hadn't said DUHHH this thread might not have got you flamed.
Again, no offence.
I thought we could all take a joke. That one was for all the folks who keep saying I doubted Kentsfield.
Thats one thing i agree on with you. People think if you support AMD or think AMD processors are viable solutions that you also think intel stuff suck because they are evil.
(sigh) So much for my plan next year, looks like I want the quad core now.
"It looks like two Core 2s will be faster than one. Duhhhh!"
What will be your response to 4x4? 2 FXs better than 1? Yay?
And I thought you saw the light. There's always next time
| Quote : Rahul Sood recently got some Kentsfield samples from Intel and is really impressed with them. He reportedly could not overload the system even with multiple instances of Prime95 and DVD burning.
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See if you hadn't said DUHHH this thread might not have got you flamed.
Again, no offence.
I thought we could all take a joke. That one was for all the folks who keep saying I doubted Kentsfield.
Thats one thing i agree on with you. People think if you support AMD or think AMD processors are viable solutions that you also think intel stuff suck because they are evil.
Intel are evil. Just look at Prescott; they were trying to mass murder people by making a chip so hot that it explodes into flames.
I want to know if the $ you spend on kentsfield (~$1200 or more, so I hear) would be better spent on a DX10 video card instead? And also how many people run multiple DVD burns?
| Quote : I want to know if the $ you spend on kentsfield (~$1200 or more, so I hear) would be better spent on a DX10 video card instead? And also how many people run multiple DVD burns? |
Yes and no one.
| Quote : I want to know if the $ you spend on kentsfield (~$1200 or more, so I hear) would be better spent on a DX10 video card instead? And also how many people run multiple DVD burns? |
Multiple DVD burns aren't as bad as multiple video encoding. Burns can rely on the drive's cache system (if the drive has one).
As for $$ for Kentsfield...well, there will be a few that will fork over for them, I can be sure of that. Same with 4X4. They are the "never out of cash" enthusiast, who just has to have the top-o-the-line stuff. So, this person will have the Kentsfield, drive the price of DDR2/3 1100 RAM up, and buy 4 DX10 cards, only cause "he can".
Also, I didn't take offense to BM's "duhhhhh", but the thing that really caught my attention about the article was this little tidbit:
"Not only does this machine run cooler than the AMD Athlon FX or Core 2 Duo Extreme, but it seems to run more applications at one time without breaking a sweat."
If the Kentsfield does run cooler than either, that must say something about the power consumption of this quad core.
| Quote : Rahul Sood recently got some Kentsfield samples from Intel and is really impressed with them. He reportedly could not overload the system even with multiple instances of Prime95 and DVD burning.
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See if you hadn't said DUHHH this thread might not have got you flamed.
Again, no offence.
I thought we could all take a joke. That one was for all the folks who keep saying I doubted Kentsfield.
Thats one thing i agree on with you. People think if you support AMD or think AMD processors are viable solutions that you also think intel stuff suck because they are evil.
Intel are evil. Just look at Prescott; they were trying to mass murder people by making a chip so hot that it explodes into flames.
True, but thats just bad business practices, or maybe good in a way. They had to stick with netburst until they could afford to scrap it.
LOL, they should have to pay everyone's air conditioning bills.
| Quote : Rahul Sood recently got some Kentsfield samples from Intel and is really impressed with them. He reportedly could not overload the system even with multiple instances of Prime95 and DVD burning.
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I guess you aren't going to idolize Rahul Sood anymore, huh? He was impressd with Kentsfield, so now he's a traitor.
| Quote : There is clearly something amazing about this processor - it easily takes place as my most wanted CPU for 2006. |
| Quote : I would say based on the performance of the platforms we tested that it shouldn’t really matter about the architectural advantages or disadvantages – the proof is in the benchmarks. |
Jeez, Baron, and you say benchmarks don't matter. Who's right...You, or Rahul?
| Quote : I want to know if the $ you spend on kentsfield (~$1200 or more, so I hear) would be better spent on a DX10 video card instead? And also how many people run multiple DVD burns? |
This may surprise you but intel don't design their entire cpu range around gamers. Kentsfield, imo, is not a gaming cpu. Gamers will want it yes, but they buy anything that is marketed as FAST and never question whether they need it.
Cant wait for the Four core Itanium.
Then my bottleneck will be the raid 5 again.
Need raid with 50 disks!!!!1!
| Quote : Rahul Sood recently got some Kentsfield samples from Intel and is really impressed with them. He reportedly could not overload the system even with multiple instances of Prime95 and DVD burning.
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I guess you aren't going to idolize Rahul Sood anymore, huh? He was impressd with Kentsfield, so now he's a traitor.
| Quote : There is clearly something amazing about this processor - it easily takes place as my most wanted CPU for 2006. |
| Quote : I would say based on the performance of the platforms we tested that it shouldn’t really matter about the architectural advantages or disadvantages – the proof is in the benchmarks. |
Jeez, Baron, and you say benchmarks don't matter. Who's right...You, or Rahul?
| Quote : Rahul Sood recently got some Kentsfield samples from Intel and is really impressed with them. He reportedly could not overload the system even with multiple instances of Prime95 and DVD burning.
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I guess you aren't going to idolize Rahul Sood anymore, huh? He was impressd with Kentsfield, so now he's a traitor.
| Quote : There is clearly something amazing about this processor - it easily takes place as my most wanted CPU for 2006. |
| Quote : I would say based on the performance of the platforms we tested that it shouldn’t really matter about the architectural advantages or disadvantages – the proof is in the benchmarks. |
Jeez, Baron, and you say benchmarks don't matter. Who's right...You, or Rahul?
Yet you double post 2 minutes apart.
| Quote : Yet you double post 2 minutes apart. |
See picture above and realize what happens when the page doesn't load right after a post.
Here's a reply to the original from everyone's favorite poster, Sharikou, Ph. D:
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It's good to know that universal constants exists.
Is it legal to write such bull? There has got to be a law against this somewhere...
| Quote : Is it legal to write such bull? There has got to be a law against this somewhere... |
No, because if he truly does believe what he writes then to him it's true.. therefore he's not consciously lying.
You need to prove that someone is consciously and knowingly lying in order to have a case against them. This information comes from a case that was to be brought up against Bill O'Reilly (Fox News liar) but no one could prove he was knowingly lying (although many can prove his attempts at re-writting history).
| Quote : Is it legal to write such bull? There has got to be a law against this somewhere... |
Freedom of speech is protected by the US Constitution. However, if it is defamatory then legal action can be pursued. I consider his posts to be libel which is the published form of defamation. It's up to Intel to decide if this insect is worth the trouble.
There is a grey area between an opinion and a defamatory comment.
I tried posting a reply to him once, to try to get him to see that if Intel went bankrupt, the CPU market would be in a bad state and that his arguments that Conroe and Kentsfield kills Intel was ludicrous at best.
You can imagine the flaming that I got from him and his flunkies, calling me a chav, an Intel drone and someone who wouldn't last 2 minutes in the real world among other unmentionables.
I'm not going back there again.
I have no respect for Rahul Sood.
I met him years ago in Calgary at an IT tradeshow before Voodoo was big.
All he did was stand there and trash Intel in front of corporate suits, IT staff and sales reps. They were giving t-shirts out to those who knew AMDs T-Bird specs.
This made no sense as much of the trade show was servers and other corporate products such as plasma displays and plotters. I know Voodoo doesn't play in that market, but you still don't have to make an ass out of yourself like you're are a zealot.
A few attendees were brave enough to counter with some of Intel's current advancements, but were quickly insulted and embarrassed.
Hell I was embarrased just standing there in silence.
Any good salesperson knows you don't fight with loyal customers and tell them they are wrong. You objectively make your case and in the end sell them what they decide.
Do you feed your dog what you want to eat or what he does?
Good for him for standing up for what he believed in, but personally I think he is an ass and I could care less about what he says now.
Of course, with C2D out, hope he likes his humble pie......
| Quote : I tried posting a reply to him once, to try to get him to see that if Intel went bankrupt, the CPU market would be in a bad state and that his arguments that Conroe and Kentsfield kills Intel was ludicrous at best.
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I've beaten the bugger in countless arguments.. made him look like the fool he is in front of his own followers. But then again I sorta have a reputation for doing that. Trick is to side with the facts and not the truth. Truth is individual and is heavily influenced by opinion, facts are documented written bits of information that are normally associated with a historical event or data that has gone through rigorous testing and a tough validation process usually backed by a strong well renowned scientific study on several individual cases and the results documented.
As such, if you side with facts, you win. Trick is leaving all personal preferences and feelings aside, in other words leaving ones baggage at the door.
It's much the same in politics. Another area where I'm not quite well liked among st foes or even peers.
If you can learn to do this, siding with facts then Sharikou PHd or any other extremist is left utterly defenceless, as in trying to prove his point, and using his personal feelings.. he'll make mistakes and contradict himself quite a few times. After which all you then need to do is capitalize on those mistakes and contradictions in an effort to display the gross incompetence that follows extremists. (believe me.. the more angry he get's the more mistakes he'll make and the more you call him on those mistakes the more angry he'll get).
Works every time. Often you'll even have them giving up, closing shop and declaring that they're a changed person (in an effort to win back followers). They may even then start declaring themselves as being your friend. It's like in nature, once defeated by a younger male the older male Lion (if he survives) will continue to be a part of the pack, but will ultimately submit to the new younger lion King. Humans are not that different.
| Quote : I tried posting a reply to him once, to try to get him to see that if Intel went bankrupt, the CPU market would be in a bad state and that his arguments that Conroe and Kentsfield kills Intel was ludicrous at best.
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Unfortunately, that's what you get when you deal with an fanatic. They probably didn't even try to explain the ecomonics behind why Intel would be in a sorry state. In fact, they wouldn't even know that themselves. If you try to hit them with a financial analysis of the situation they'll probably call it witchcraft or the "Devil's words" and burn you at the stake if they can find you.
They are just deluding themselves which is no big deal to me really, but I dislike the fact that fanatics spread misinformation that could be swallowed whole by people who don't know any better.
djgandy wrote:
| Quote : This may surprise you but intel don't design their entire cpu range around gamers. Kentsfield, imo, is not a gaming cpu. Gamers will want it yes, but they buy anything that is marketed as FAST and never question whether they need it. |
I'm an avid gamer, used to be super hardcore but less so nowadays. I hope to be getting a kentsfield and I agree with you its not a "gamers" cpu and not the only reason I want it. I will be one of those people burning DVDs while playing and such. I likely will be one of those non-existent people burning two things while playing as well.
I need that cpu to free up my time for other things in my life essentially. I've gotten spoiled lately to spending a lot of time with my family since my gaming has tapered off some from real hardcore status. With this cpu I can get some work/play/burning etc all done at the same time and still have that extra time for my kids. I LOVE TECHNOLOGLY !!
So two thumbs way up for more cores either way you slice it assuming you have the $ to devote to it and a reasonable GPU/s as well.
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