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I wish I spent less time gaming and more time doing other things?

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October 10, 2006 4:29:21 AM

I personally have never played a video game on the computer since wolfenstein which was about 10-12 years ago, and even then I wasn't all that fond of it.

I study a lot and work a lot...and well, I just don't see how you guys justify to yourselves spending that much $ on computer parts and ESPECIALLY that much time to play games.

While I do understand everyone needs time to relax, and everyone deserves a hobby and some sort of entertainment... I used "hardcore gamers" as the subject here because that is who I am particularly concerned with.

My questions are basically these:

As stated above, how do you justify to yourself the $ and time spent playing these games?

Does it not cross your mind that your time could be used for more useful/beneficial tasks? If so, why are you still spending so much time gaming?

Finally, if you could somehow turn on a permanent switch would stop any urge you had from playing video games and it would make you use that time to work out (more), eat health(y/ier) or study/read (more) would you turn it on? Why or why not?


I know I'll get a lot of sarcastic remarks here, but I really hope a few of you do answer this seriously as I am very interested in your responses.

Thanks


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Basically the reason I posted this question is because I was kind of interested in how games today looked and i did a google image search for BF2, since I seem to see that game name thrown around a lot here and well...I came across this:

http://sh.nu/download/images/dscn3905.jpg

Not to poke fun or anything, but that was just a really sad sight to me.

More about : hardcore gamers modest gamers guess

October 10, 2006 6:23:34 AM

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http://sh.nu/download/images/dscn3905.jpg

Not to poke fun or anything, but that was just a really sad sight to me.


Your totally right. It's sad how he's wasting such sharp graphic capabilities on a low-res tv. He should really put the tv on his bed, or actually, he should fix the root of the problem and get a monitor that supports high resolutions. Would improve his gaming experience tons.

Good find though.
October 10, 2006 7:52:22 AM

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I personally have never played a video game on the computer since wolfenstein which was about 10-12 years ago, and even then I wasn't all that fond of it.

I study a lot and work a lot...and well, I just don't see how you guys justify to yourselves spending that much $ on computer parts and ESPECIALLY that much time to play games.

While I do understand everyone needs time to relax, and everyone deserves a hobby and some sort of entertainment... I used "hardcore gamers" as the subject here because that is who I am particularly concerned with.

My questions are basically these:

As stated above, how do you justify to yourself the $ and time spent playing these games?

Does it not cross your mind that your time could be used for more useful/beneficial tasks? If so, why are you still spending so much time gaming?

Finally, if you could somehow turn on a permanent switch would stop any urge you had from playing video games and it would make you use that time to work out (more), eat health(y/ier) or study/read (more) would you turn it on? Why or why not?


I know I'll get a lot of sarcastic remarks here, but I really hope a few of you do answer this seriously as I am very interested in your responses.

Thanks


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Basically the reason I posted this question is because I was kind of interested in how games today looked and i did a google image search for BF2, since I seem to see that game name thrown around a lot here and well...I came across this:

http://sh.nu/download/images/dscn3905.jpg

Not to poke fun or anything, but that was just a really sad sight to me.


You were right about one thing.
However, looking the short time you've been posting at this forum, and how often you've done so since then, why'd you waste your time? You could have been doing something more constructive. Why didn't you put that time into helping those who are truely in need (homeless people, orphans, the elderly).
You do realize most people who post here are into computer gaming, so why not just go somewhere else if you're not into it, rather than making generalizations about those who are.
I somewhat agree with you about the amount of cash people pump into a system that'll be outdated in year anyways, but then again, it's not your money so who cares.
Though that pic you found is funny as hell!
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October 10, 2006 8:22:14 AM

Well like i said, everyone deserves their own entertainment and relaxation time.

To me this is actually a learning experience, posting this question. I am not typically exposed to people who game a great deal so I find it socially interesting to hear what people that do play quite a bit of games do have to say.

Further, I post on here because it's a good technical forum where I can help some people out who are working on new systems, while I get information for myself and my own personal computer. The combination justifies my time spent here, to myself that is. You may not think it is justified, just as I may not think it is justified to spend the amount of time you do playing games.

But I have always felt that understanding the perspective of another is the surest way of bettering yourself. When I look at what my friends that don't get good grades do, and why they do it...and when i look at what my friends that do get good grades do and why they do it...I can then decide what sort of sacrifices I want to make for myself to achieve whatever goal I'm setting forth to do.

Now it's back to the books for me lol
October 10, 2006 9:20:00 AM

THats a quality pic, reminds me of a guy that used to share my flat in halls.

I've pld video games for years now, I see it as a good way to unwind, chill with mates playing games on consoles and i've made some good friends playing for my clan in Counterstrike. I live with people who have simular interests in games and computers as its a general interest that started the friendship.

I also do other things like play 5-a-side footy once a week with work collegues, study Taekwondo, play golf at the weekend. Bar the minority i think that alot of people have simular lives, just with the PC being a major interest. I mean there are people on here who juggle married life and kids with their passion.

in terms of money, there are plent yof hobbies that people spend tonnes of their hard earned cash. I mean i'd class somone spending £2-3-k doing up a Vauxhall Nova as a complete waste of money, cos a) its a shit car b) you could buy a quality 2nd hand sports car for that and it would look great.

I could go on for ever but work calls.
October 10, 2006 9:36:21 AM

I think one of the reasons for interest in computer games is that games develop continuously in terms of graphics and nowadays physics. People want to upgrade their computers for games because they want to see what kind of new effects have been used in the new generation of games. Then, especially for people who live in isolated or scarcely populated areas multiplayer games could be a way to have some kind of sense of belonging to the international community in this age of globalism.
October 10, 2006 10:46:05 AM

That guy looks pretty harmless man. He's just chilling, he needs to lose some weight and the goat-ee though!

Still, I don't see how you can blame computer games for that. Yeah, if I didn't play games then I'd probably work out more and shit, but I don't have any problem with the ladies and I'm sure as hell not a fat bastard.

I think it's all relative to your lifestyle, its no different to watching TV (which the average American spends more time doing each day than any other specific task). You can exercise, eat healthily, have a social life / partner AND play video games.

To be honest, the real problem isn't FPS games like Half-Life, its things like MMO's. I'm a GM in the longest running UO shard around, and I also play DDO: Stormreach. Or should I say, DDO: Crackreach. That shit is
A D D I C T I V E. It does take some self-control, and I guess it just depends on your personality whether you let your gameplay time be excessive or not!

In short: Games aren't to blame for the kinds of issues you descibe - it's the personality of the gamer that decrees whether they complete other functions in their lives, or allow the gaming to take over. If you're gonna let yourself get fat and unhealthy, and neglect other aspects of your life then thats your fault - not the fault of a PC.
October 10, 2006 11:12:24 AM

Well I don't know about the rest of the "gamers" around here, but I feel insulted. First off, I think you are appying a huge stereotype. Not all gamers are fat, lazy, useless slobs. We for the most part aren't the uneducated heathens you think we are. Now the real reason that I, and I hope others are insulted is, why the hell should we have to justify our hobby to you? You are someone who apparently has an agenda, or outright doesn't like gamers. You will view us in whatever light you wish, regardless of how any of us respond to this. This site revolves around computer hardware, and presently gaming is what is pushing innovation in this industry, therefore a lot of people that populate these forums are gamers. A good many of them are very intelligent people, save a few trolls.

You come here and make blanket statements about gamers and people who spend tons of money on computer hardware in a forum for hardware fanatics. Why would you care how much anyone spends on anything?, let alone computer hardware? What business is it of yours?

You come off all self righteous about how hard you study. No one asked for you lifes history. I went to school too, and although I wouldn't call school "hard work" I would have to say that is was stressful. I didn't have a lot of time to do anything besides study, but when I did have time, or just needed a stress break, I could lose myself for twenty minutes in a game, and be better off for it. Now I am a father who is doing reasonably well for myself and my family and I still like to game. Sure I would just as soon build computers and tweak them, but gaming is still one of my favorite pastimes.

You say you come here to help people with their problems (I assume computer problems), well help them, don't judge them. If you come here to stir up and piss off the people in these forums, go somewhere else.

My mother had a saying when I was a kid (yes it was a long time ago) "you shouldn't speak, you let you ignorance hang out", this thread proves that saying.
October 10, 2006 11:33:54 AM

I personally play video games on average 10+ hours a week. I find it more mentally stimulating than sitting in front of the Idiot Box(TV) and watching what someone else thinks I will enjoy. At least with most games that I play, your own actions and skill and choices determine what happens in the game.

Besides, what other activities can you enjoy on a weeknight after nightfall other than TV that will not leave you tired or hung over the next morning?

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I personally have never played a video game on the computer since wolfenstein which was about 10-12 years ago, and even then I wasn't all that fond of it.

Well that is 1 type of game, a 1st person shooter. Maybe that is not your forte, maybe you are more into RTS or RPG type of games that are more mentally challenging? Maybe you should experiment with a few different types of games before Stereotyping us to that dude playing on his bed...

As for other types of expensive hobbies? I can name a few... Golf you have to pay for clubs, hundreds if not thousands of dollars, greens fees, memberships and all that sh*t. Now some may think that golf is better because it is a "sport", but I work with plenty of fat people who play golf alot...
Hunting is another Expensive hobby... Guns, sights, ammo, cammo, and all the other "necessary" gear adds up to thousands as well. At least I never killed anyone or anything by playing video games....


JonC
October 10, 2006 11:43:09 AM

"Finally, if you could somehow turn on a permanent switch would stop any urge you had from playing video games and it would make you use that time to work out (more), eat health(y/ier) or study/read (more) would you turn it on? Why or why not?"

I'll admit some of those damn games are addicting. Especially those MMORPG's. I got sucked in to the world of Everquest for about 2 years. However, that is how I enjoyed my downtime. I still managed to workout, practice ju-jitsu, have time for friends, wife and hold down a full-time job. Even now, I still do the same except that Everquest has been replaced with other less time consuming games. It's about responsibility to yourself to make sure you balance your time. Some people are not as effective as others doing it.
October 10, 2006 11:49:13 AM

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As for other types of expensive hobbies? I can name a few... Golf you have to pay for clubs, hundreds if not thousands of dollars, greens fees, memberships and all that sh*t. Now some may think that golf is better because it is a "sport", but I work with plenty of fat people who play golf alot...
Hunting is another Expensive hobby... Guns, sights, ammo, cammo, and all the other "necessary" gear adds up to thousands as well. At least I never killed anyone or anything by playing video games....


Hell, add modding your car to that list: $4,000 supercharger, $3000 upgraded suspension, $6,00 upgraded engine and the list goes on. $20,000 to get a 10 second 1/4 mile....Priceless! Priceless to those who care. Same with computers. Maybe my stock computer gets 100 fps while Joecomputer spent an extra $3k to get 140fps. Not worth it to me but as long as Joe himself is happy....
October 10, 2006 11:57:21 AM

I do understand the cash money some games pour into their machines. I am looking for a cash upgrade myself but something that will give me a sig. boost not a total overhaul in my graphics. I do also have a job and I go to school and (whenever she is available) I do have a girlfriends. So gamers do have lives outside the games but they just a little bit more time in their games.
October 10, 2006 11:58:43 AM

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Well I don't know about the rest of the "gamers" around here, but I feel insulted. First off, I think you are appying a huge stereotype. Not all gamers are fat, lazy, useless slobs. We for the most part aren't the uneducated heathens you think we are. Now the real reason that I, and I hope others are insulted is, why the hell should we have to justify our hobby to you? You are someone who apparently has an agenda, or outright doesn't like gamers. You will view us in whatever light you wish, regardless of how any of us respond to this. This site revolves around computer hardware, and presently gaming is what is pushing innovation in this industry, therefore a lot of people that populate these forums are gamers. A good many of them are very intelligent people, save a few trolls.

You come here and make blanket statements about gamers and people who spend tons of money on computer hardware in a forum for hardware fanatics. Why would you care how much anyone spends on anything?, let alone computer hardware? What business is it of yours?

You come off all self righteous about how hard you study. No one asked for you lifes history. I went to school too, and although I wouldn't call school "hard work" I would have to say that is was stressful. I didn't have a lot of time to do anything besides study, but when I did have time, or just needed a stress break, I could lose myself for twenty minutes in a game, and be better off for it. Now I am a father who is doing reasonably well for myself and my family and I still like to game. Sure I would just as soon build computers and tweak them, but gaming is still one of my favorite pastimes.

You say you come here to help people with their problems (I assume computer problems), well help them, don't judge them. If you come here to stir up and piss off the people in these forums, go somewhere else.

My mother had a saying when I was a kid (yes it was a long time ago) "you shouldn't speak, you let you ignorance hang out", this thread proves that saying.


don't have time for a long response--i will later though--but for the quick one let me just say i don't have a stereotype, i have what i perceive to be a hobby that quickly becomes an addiction that can take away from a large number of more valuable things one could do with his/her time.
October 10, 2006 12:00:55 PM

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You come here and make blanket statements about gamers and people who spend tons of money on computer hardware in a forum for hardware fanatics. Why would you care how much anyone spends on anything?, let alone computer hardware? What business is it of yours?


P.S. My business is what details people care to share with me. If you are offended because I am inquisitive, thats fine everyone can make their own decisions but you make it sound almost as though I am doing something wrong by inquiring....and that is where you are mistaken.
October 10, 2006 12:06:02 PM

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My mother had a saying when I was a kid (yes it was a long time ago) "you shouldn't speak, you let you ignorance hang out", this thread proves that saying.


My father used to tell me throughout my childhood that I should always look to those people that were better at certain things than me and try to "do what they do" but only for the things . (it's a lot shorter in our language, lol)

For all I know there could be something here I could gain...I enjoy doing logic puzzles because I think I may be able to gain something from them, maybe someone here will enlighten me to a 3d game i might be able to gain from.

Further I think that the disinterest you express for learning about others just proves your own personal ignorance.
October 10, 2006 12:09:35 PM

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As for other types of expensive hobbies? I can name a few... Golf you have to pay for clubs, hundreds if not thousands of dollars, greens fees, memberships and all that sh*t. Now some may think that golf is better because it is a "sport", but I work with plenty of fat people who play golf alot...
Hunting is another Expensive hobby... Guns, sights, ammo, cammo, and all the other "necessary" gear adds up to thousands as well. At least I never killed anyone or anything by playing video games....


JonC


Well my original point wasn't in using that time for other hobbies, rather to use that time for more serious things......i don't know i just feel like there are a lot of people who don't take things in life as seriously as they need to be taken, and video games just as playing golf, just as guns, need to be toned down a bit. This is a forum where I see a lot of people playing video games, so this was why the topic was so seemingly "stereotypical" to you.
October 10, 2006 12:11:38 PM

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"Finally, if you could somehow turn on a permanent switch would stop any urge you had from playing video games and it would make you use that time to work out (more), eat health(y/ier) or study/read (more) would you turn it on? Why or why not?"

I'll admit some of those damn games are addicting. Especially those MMORPG's. I got sucked in to the world of Everquest for about 2 years. However, that is how I enjoyed my downtime. I still managed to workout, practice ju-jitsu, have time for friends, wife and hold down a full-time job. Even now, I still do the same except that Everquest has been replaced with other less time consuming games. It's about responsibility to yourself to make sure you balance your time. Some people are not as effective as others doing it.


I think thats what i've gotten from this....that basically the people that get sucked into it just dont balance their time well, i was under the impression that those of you spending upwards of 500 on video cards were playing these games 4-5 hours a day, and well .. hobby or not, thats a lot of time.
October 10, 2006 12:18:53 PM

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My mother had a saying when I was a kid (yes it was a long time ago) "you shouldn't speak, you let you ignorance hang out", this thread proves that saying.


My father used to tell me throughout my childhood that I should always look to those people that were better at certain things than me and try to "do what they do" but only for the things . (it's a lot shorter in our language, lol)

For all I know there could be something here I could gain...I enjoy doing logic puzzles because I think I may be able to gain something from them, maybe someone here will enlighten me to a 3d game i might be able to gain from.

Further I think that the disinterest you express for learning about others just proves your own personal ignorance.

This site isn't about learning "about" others, those are dating services. This is a hardware site, this site is about learning from others and helping others, neither of which this thread does. If I wanted to learn about you I would hook up with you in a chatroom, not in a forum primarily used by hardware enthusiasts and gamers. Social engineering experiments aren't welcome either.

Now you have added your signature, what the hell would a non-gamer being doing with a 7600GT that's overclocked. That whole sig says gamer, is this some sort of practical joke? It's not April Fool's day. Or did you just copy someone elses signature just to add some sort of credence to this post.
October 10, 2006 12:33:09 PM

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As for other types of expensive hobbies? I can name a few... Golf you have to pay for clubs, hundreds if not thousands of dollars, greens fees, memberships and all that sh*t. Now some may think that golf is better because it is a "sport", but I work with plenty of fat people who play golf alot...
Hunting is another Expensive hobby... Guns, sights, ammo, cammo, and all the other "necessary" gear adds up to thousands as well. At least I never killed anyone or anything by playing video games....


JonC


Well my original point wasn't in using that time for other hobbies, rather to use that time for more serious things......i don't know i just feel like there are a lot of people who don't take things in life as seriously as they need to be taken, and video games just as playing golf, just as guns, need to be toned down a bit. This is a forum where I see a lot of people playing video games, so this was why the topic was so seemingly "stereotypical" to you.

Who gives you the right to deem what is "serious"? Why do you get to choose what people do with their time and money? This is what living in a free society entitles you to. If a person wants to throw their lives away on something "you' deem unimportant, then that's the way it is and you have no business casting dispersions on their choice. Were you the kid that pointed at handicapped people and fat people and asked your mother what was wrong with them? I'm guessing you weren't upbraided for it.
October 10, 2006 12:39:10 PM

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As for other types of expensive hobbies? I can name a few... Golf you have to pay for clubs, hundreds if not thousands of dollars, greens fees, memberships and all that sh*t. Now some may think that golf is better because it is a "sport", but I work with plenty of fat people who play golf alot...
Hunting is another Expensive hobby... Guns, sights, ammo, cammo, and all the other "necessary" gear adds up to thousands as well. At least I never killed anyone or anything by playing video games....


JonC


Well my original point wasn't in using that time for other hobbies, rather to use that time for more serious things......i don't know i just feel like there are a lot of people who don't take things in life as seriously as they need to be taken, and video games just as playing golf, just as guns, need to be toned down a bit. This is a forum where I see a lot of people playing video games, so this was why the topic was so seemingly "stereotypical" to you.


Interesting thread. Care to list any of the more “serious things” people should be doing with there time? Do you not feel that people should have down time where they can just waste way as the chose?

I believe in living life with a work hard, play hard philosophy. I think your issue is not with gamers or other people who are really into hobbies that don’t interest you. You’re probably surrounded by people who don’t quite take life as serious as you do. Perhaps you should tone down your expectations of others a bit. I hope you don’t take this the wrong way, I’m just trying to point out that everyone needs ways to release and escape the demands life places on them, and gaming, like any other hobby can do this.

Having said all that I did notice your signature; nice rig, mind telling the forum what you’re running with all that power? Seems to me it could be a nice gaming rig, or is that only being used from serious application.
October 10, 2006 12:40:42 PM

I'm with you on this one, what you do with your time is your problem. No one can dictate that to you.
This thread is a useless excitement of electrons. It poses no purpose, is only asking for opinions and adds no knowledge to the Forumz. This is better placed in the community section.
October 10, 2006 12:48:52 PM

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This site isn't about learning "about" others, those are dating services. This is a hardware site, this site is about learning from others and helping others, neither of which this thread does.


That's the difference between us, I don't need a dating service, i can just post a question like this and read your responses. If you're so against it and don't feel that it belongs here, ignore it, it will quickly fall to page 2...oh but wait you replied!
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Now you have added your signature, what the hell would a non-gamer being doing with a 7600GT that's overclocked. That whole sig says gamer, is this some sort of practical joke? It's not April Fool's day. Or did you just copy someone elses signature just to add some sort of credence to this post.
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well i like to keep my computer for 5-6 years like i did my last one...the card, well it was $110, bout the same for what i would have paid for an x1600 which i thought would last me awhile. BFG's OCed version was the only one for that cheap on newegg.

But as far as what I do with all my "computing power", well now I don't have to sit in a lab when i work on matlab or mathematica, and I multitask like hell so :)  Oh I also do a good amount of 3D rendering for my profession, its nothing really intensive, my last card could do it but it would just have lag with every click, it was pretty annoying...pretty sure i wont have that problem now.


i asked you all a simple question and you flip....so sad.
October 10, 2006 12:51:47 PM

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Having said all that I did notice your signature; nice rig, mind telling the forum what you’re running with all that power? Seems to me it could be a nice gaming rig, or is that only being used from serious application.


Mostly serious....but I think i'm gonna get a TV wonder 650, I hate missing leno :( 
October 10, 2006 12:53:26 PM

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i have what i perceive to be a hobby that quickly becomes an addiction that can take away from a large number of more valuable things one could do with his/her time.

What is valuable to one is wothless to another... How can you say that we are not spending our valuable time the right way? Only I can say that I am spending my time the best way or not. And even if I am p*ssing my life away playing video games, it is my life, not your life. No one tells me how to live my life, and I don't try to tell anyone how to live theirs.

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This is a forum where I see a lot of people playing video games, so this was why the topic was so seemingly "stereotypical" to you.

No sh*t sherlock, you are some detective... Comming to a forum where people like to build and tweak computer hardware to insane levels... What did you think we were trying to make spellcheck run faster? Take a look at the gaming industry and it's effects on the computer hardware industry... Gaming drives the hardware manufacturers to produce better hardware. You don't need fancy graphics and quadcore CPUs to do word processing and spreadsheets.

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I think thats what i've gotten from this....that basically the people that get sucked into it just dont balance their time well, i was under the impression that those of you spending upwards of 500 on video cards were playing these games 4-5 hours a day, and well .. hobby or not, thats a lot of time.

Well how about my GF's ex-husband who spent most of his time away from his family(and a ton of money) on his hobbies... Hunting and Fishing. He used to go on hunting trips costing upwards of 5k. This was for 1 week. If I spend 5k on a computer, it will last for years. He has optics that cost more than any graphics card and that is just 1!

I know that there are alot of people who spend most of their free time devoted to their religion and give alot of money to the (insert type of worship house here) that they attend. Is this a waste of time or money? Not my position to judge them just because I don't.

Judge not, that ye be not judged.

For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

JonC
October 10, 2006 1:10:57 PM

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the enthusiast crowd is beyond your ability to understand;your question is posed in a manner that is self-righteous.
who needs justification?youll never get mine,i dont owe you a damn thing.
and further more if all people were like you wed still be using k7 chipsand p4's.

its the enthusiasts who drive the energy bus on tech.wether they are IT enthusiasts or gaming enthusiasts.

so well be getting outrageous resolution on movies and games while you are chugging around calling video games lame because your system cant play them at ultra high.

that doesnt bother me at all,why does my pc expenditure bother you?
if you want to take the utilitarian aire ,you need to back it up with an objectivity that you havent thusfar exhibited.
in the end this is your rant and at that its completely useless and this thread should be locked.

i challenge you to play oblivion on a top notch rig and come back and complain again,but make sure you try oblivion on your pc first just so you see the difference.


lets review:

did i say lame? no

did i say i wanted to play them at "ultra high"? Actually i said quite the opposite

did i say you're expenditure bothers me? or rather did i say i was interested in how you justified it to yourself? i'm gonna go with the latter here

and finally by all means, lock the thread, i didn't know you would all turn crazy because of a question...so sad that adults can't refrain from responding to something when they come out and say
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i dont owe you a damn thing.
yet they complain that the thread goes on?

pitiful

P.S. as of today, i think my rig is the "top notch" range, less my video card.
October 10, 2006 1:21:46 PM

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Does it not cross your mind that your time could be used for more useful/beneficial tasks? If so, why are you still spending so much time gaming?


IT IS AN ADDICTION

when u start playing a good game there is nothing more in your life except this game. it happens to me a lot of times (usualy when i am playing RPG games like diablo or WoW) to forget that i am thirsty, i have to go to the toilet or i have to eat more than once per 2 or 3 days. and then when i finally stop playing i remember them all together and i run to the toilet and after that i drink 4-5 glasses of water. when i play there is always a cup of coffee on my desk( i dont now how many litres i drink every day). it happened a lot of times to stay more then 30 hours in front of my pc (i slept on the keyboard only once). I just can't stop it :(  .

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Finally, if you could somehow turn on a permanent switch would stop any urge you had from playing video games and it would make you use that time to work out (more), eat health(y/ier) or study/read (more) would you turn it on? Why or why not??


If u find this switch PLEASE let me know
October 10, 2006 1:29:00 PM

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I know that there are alot of people who spend most of their free time devoted to their religion and give alot of money to the (insert type of worship house here) that they attend. Is this a waste of time or money? Not my position to judge them just because I don't.
JonC


well i think there's quite the difference between the selfless act of donating money to your church and the act of purchasing an x1950.


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Only I can say that I am spending my time the best way or not


WRONG, rather only you make the final decision..and in the end that's what matters. But it's not to say that I can't think you could be doing something better with your time/money. If i see someone pissing away their life savings at the casino when they've got a family at home......while yes he is the only one that decides what happens, even though he is someone i saw in passing, i would speak of it to others. This is the same thing here, i'm asking you to think about what you're doing...answer, dont answer, thats up to you, but if you do answer it gives me perspective on what you guys do.
October 10, 2006 1:36:54 PM

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dont belittle youself to him with justification.if he wont take a more appropriate stance ,then he has no place talking to gamers at all,and is only looking to stir up some fud and flame all the enthusiasts.


first you should recognize that you are confusing an "appropriate stance" with using your jargon.

and can you please tell me how you know what it is I'm trying to do?

I find it so funny that you insist I'm trying to do one thing while I (the person actually doing something) have expressed quite the opposite on a number of occasions here. If you cannot read english, and you feel that you MUST add in your own interpretation of everything i say, well there's no hope for you.

FINALLY, a few posts ago you said you wanted to lock this thread, stop responding then, or do you feel the childish need to have the last word (as you did in your first post....ahh "badlfkasdfld dafbldfajsdf okay i said what i said now close the thread, rawr"

by the way the whole "then he has no place talking to gamers at all", youre a real one ;)  if only one day i could be a hard ass like you[/quote]
October 10, 2006 1:39:56 PM

Pontificating doesn't go down well unless you have something good to say or you already have a establish rapport with the rest of the community.
This thread lacks all that.
He's asking us to define the undefinable, to explain what can't be.
Why do you eat Burger King instead of Wendy's? Why choose AMD over Intel?
If I could explain that, I'd major in psychology and not computer engineering.
This thread is simply not going to answer any of these questions and only exists, even if that was not its original purpose, as flame-bait.
I've said what I wanted too.
Ja ne friends,
Ninja
October 10, 2006 1:46:30 PM

I curious to see what you do in your spare time.... and also what you deem as a more valuble way to spend my spare time? Music and cars are my first hobbies, but I sure do enjoy a nightly hour or 2 playing games.
October 10, 2006 1:51:06 PM

So in a way it's sort of how an alcoholic need the enabler both to act as a general proxy and as a justification for his or her habit?
I am no ones excuse or justification. You'd be messing with the wrong person to say that any of us are.
If he feels that time can be better well spent elsewhere he's preaching to the wrong crowd.
I'll hazard 90% of us play games, and are enthusiasts. And yes, we do see he light of day. I'm currently outside anyways.
October 10, 2006 2:03:17 PM

Okey doke,look pally,Ive worked from one end of this country to the other,owned my own business,done exciting,dangerous,hard,but mostly gratifying as well as illuminating work/jobs.Had my girlfriends/loves,raised my kids yadda yadda,and I come here and hear you prostelatizing about work and no play?Go spend the next 20 years of your life working your butt off,thats just fine...I respect that,but what makes you think theres no room for gaming?Have YOU spent the 20 years yat?Then get off here and GET TO WORK nuff said
October 10, 2006 2:04:28 PM

Nah I wouldn't go so far.. I'll just say:

Lock this thread.
If this gets locked it'll be the fifth locked thread I've seen today. The ghost of 9-inch is upon us...

Viva la flame-bait
October 10, 2006 2:07:10 PM

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Pontificating doesn't go down well unless you have something good to say or you already have a establish rapport with the rest of the community.
This thread lacks all that.
He's asking us to define the undefinable, to explain what can't be.
Why do you eat Burger King instead of Wendy's? Why choose AMD over Intel?
If I could explain that, I'd major in psychology and not computer engineering.
This thread is simply not going to answer any of these questions and only exists, even if that was not its original purpose, as flame-bait.
I've said what I wanted too.
Ja ne friends,
Ninja


i eat wendys cause they dont have any trans fat in their burgers

i use intel cause right now they have the fastest chips

i don't think i, or yourself for that matter, have asked any undefinable questions.
October 10, 2006 2:12:43 PM

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Nah I wouldn't go so far.. I'll just say:

Lock this thread.
If this gets locked it'll be the fifth locked thread I've seen today. The ghost of 9-inch is upon us...

Viva la flame-bait

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he gets the most intellectually insultive post of the day award.
inscribed on the stand is"for successfully proving some humans are still idiots ,and should not have evolved at all"


i concurr,lets put it to a vote,and if we could ,vote him banned for a week.
all voters for locking this thread say AYE.

AYE Aye.....and aye yi yi yi.....
October 10, 2006 2:28:50 PM

i love how you try to act like a hard ass across the internet, must feel invigorating for you i bet, typing in that big font with all those colors...RAWR ur so strong hahaaha
.

and let me say it again, why do you keep posting? you asked that the thread be locked, you said you were done posting, you told people not to endulge my question......yet post after post comes from you. i smell a hypocrite, lol.

p.s. to the 3-4 people that actually did respond to me in a normal fashion(it's pretty obvious who they are), sorry if you got offended but as one poster on here mentioned, quite truly, i do spend a lot of my time doing more goal oriented tasks..and for that reason i do find it difficult to comprehend how some can spend so much treating themselves to such things as golf, cars and computer games. This is why i posted this thread, to maybe gain some insight on that to better myself......... although it seems as though about 90% of you choose to get offended and cry like babies because you have trouble reading what i have written OVER and OVER and OVER again throughout my posts.

so cry cry cry to all you monkeys, and thank you to the rest :) 
October 10, 2006 2:30:57 PM

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I know that there are alot of people who spend most of their free time devoted to their religion and give alot of money to the (insert type of worship house here) that they attend. Is this a waste of time or money? Not my position to judge them just because I don't.
JonC


well i think there's quite the difference between the selfless act of donating money to your church and the act of purchasing an x1950.


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Only I can say that I am spending my time the best way or not


WRONG, rather only you make the final decision..and in the end that's what matters. But it's not to say that I can't think you could be doing something better with your time/money. If i see someone pissing away their life savings at the casino when they've got a family at home......while yes he is the only one that decides what happens, even though he is someone i saw in passing, i would speak of it to others. This is the same thing here, i'm asking you to think about what you're doing...answer, dont answer, thats up to you, but if you do answer it gives me perspective on what you guys do.

As for the difference in selflessly donating to the church or buying the best video card for their selfish system, I say each and every one of us has the undeniable right to do with their hard earned money WHATEVER THE HELL WE WANT TO. Who the hell are you to tell me that just because I spent money on my computer I am not as good as a person who gives money to church/charity?

And who the hell do you think you are telling me I am wrong to say that Only I can decide what the best way to spend my time an money are? Since I moved out of my mothers house at 18 and have earned my own way through the world not relying on anyone, I and I alone make the decisions on how to spend my time. Not you, not my GF, not ANYONE! Just because you may not agree with the way I spend my time does not make me wrong. ASSHOLE!
October 10, 2006 2:36:59 PM

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I know that there are alot of people who spend most of their free time devoted to their religion and give alot of money to the (insert type of worship house here) that they attend. Is this a waste of time or money? Not my position to judge them just because I don't.
JonC


well i think there's quite the difference between the selfless act of donating money to your church and the act of purchasing an x1950.


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Only I can say that I am spending my time the best way or not


WRONG, rather only you make the final decision..and in the end that's what matters. But it's not to say that I can't think you could be doing something better with your time/money. If i see someone pissing away their life savings at the casino when they've got a family at home......while yes he is the only one that decides what happens, even though he is someone i saw in passing, i would speak of it to others. This is the same thing here, i'm asking you to think about what you're doing...answer, dont answer, thats up to you, but if you do answer it gives me perspective on what you guys do.

As for the difference in selflessly donating to the church or buying the best video card for their selfish system, I say each and every one of us has the undeniable right to do with their hard earned money WHATEVER THE HELL WE WANT TO. Who the hell are you to tell me that just because I spent money on my computer I am not as good as a person who gives money to church/charity?

And who the hell do you think you are telling me I am wrong to say that Only I can decide what the best way to spend my time an money are? Since I moved out of my mothers house at 18 and have earned my own way through the world not relying on anyone, I and I alone make the decisions on how to spend my time. Not you, not my GF, not ANYONE! Just because you may not agree with the way I spend my time does not make me wrong. *******!

No one said anything about being a good person or not, i was saying that it wasn't a good comparison because i was talking about spending money on yourself while the original poster was talking about giving money to charity. I think they are two entirely different things and should be treated differently. Further, how come people keep saying

"who they hell are you telling me"

i didn't tell anyone anything.

You guys sure make a lot of shi*t up.

"Only I can decide what the best way to spend my time an money are? "

You can tell yourself this but as time passes you spend your money differently, people make mistakes everyday. People might think today the best way to spend their money is to buy a C2D, tomorrow they might look back at this as a mistake...how can one avoid such mistakes? Open up your eyes to the world.

If you look at the poll you'll see a decent number of people answering the latter two in response, maybe some of the people who answered no got something out of this post and can better themselves....maybe some of the people that answered yes can reaffirm their previous decisions. Regardless you need to stop thinking that a forum topic is aimed at you leaving your house at 18 all on your own and rather take it as what i wrote.
October 10, 2006 2:42:17 PM

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i eat wendys cause they dont have any trans fat in their burgers

i use intel cause right now they have the fastest chips

i don't think i, or yourself for that matter, have asked any undefinable questions.

Since you want a civilized discussion there might be time to get this in;
Why would someone buy AMD if Intel has the fastest chips?
One answer, because they like AMD.
Why do they like AMD then?
Because they're the underdog?
Why do they like the underdog?
....
If they are building a new system, why go to AMD still?
....
What is the question to the answer 42?
Why do we grow old and die so soon, when the physical make up of our bodies dictates that we could live much much longer?
Don't delude yourself into thinking that every question can be answered.
October 10, 2006 2:46:30 PM

Since you want a civilized discussion there might be time to get this in;
Why would someone buy AMD if Intel has the fastest chips?
One answer, because they like AMD.

[/quote]Why do tthey like AMD?

They might like AMD because they care more about inspiring competition than performance. They have decided that they do not agree with intel's business practices. Or a whole big bunch of other reasons...[/quote]

If they are building a new system, why go to AMD still?
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Same as above

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What is the qustion to the answer 42?


HUH?
October 10, 2006 2:48:27 PM

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your attempt to turn your own hypocracy over to me doesnt work.
your inflamatory statements about gamers are reprehensible,and deserves a strong response.
dont assume that i am using the internet as a confidence booster,hehehe yeah dont do that.
dont try to force your ignorant dogma and religious paradigm onto us.
if you are so concerned about wasyed time ,leave toms and dont return,and save yourself some time,spend it on brainwashing your family and friends.
were too intelligent to abide in your prosthetic time expenditure thesis.
and i will continue to debate your ignorance until this usless thread is locked or you give up.this thread deserves to be soiled with enthusiast animosity.


man i would pay to see how funny you looked in real life talking like that.
October 10, 2006 2:50:37 PM

by the way, i gota get going.........i hope you guys enjoy the next 8 hours w/out me till i get back.

And to DaSickNinja, i would like to continue our conversation, you can PM me or continue here.
October 10, 2006 2:52:44 PM

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we do with our time as we will
we spend our money as we want
that is all you need to know
asking for more is insultive,and inflammatory,and desrves to be addressed as such
its none of your focking buisness what we do or why
deal with it


man you really like talking for people

first you were talking for me with your assumptions...now you've moved on to talking about "we", whomever that may be.

i'm sure people agree with you...but well, some people dont, and some people dont mind talking intelligently, and well those are the people i was hoping to hear from.

ciao.
October 10, 2006 2:55:23 PM

Whether you think you are or not, the posts I see from you sound judgemental. Have you considered the possibility that "the guy you saw in a casino" may have just socred a fortune and now he won't have to work anymore and can spend more time with his assumed family?

If these people you observe "not doing more serious things with their time" are not harming you or the people you care for why do you make it sound like they are bad or deficient in some way.

The life path these people are on is of their own choosing just as yours is, your negative view of what you observe only hurts you until you decide to voice your judgements to others, after that you have contaminated the opinions of the people you have voiced these opinions to.

I'm not flaming you for being curious as the motivations of gamers just the way in which you did it.

By the way, a very useful (IMHO) game is: Kyodai Mahjong, I feel it is good for the following things: pattern recognition, strategy, planning, memory
October 10, 2006 3:07:39 PM

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Mostly serious....but I think i'm gonna get a TV wonder 650, I hate missing leno


I am not very much of a gamer at all, but I do like to have decent hardware for the times where the kids are sleeping or gone at gramma's for the night, wife's sleeping - and I'm a night owl, and ya know sometimes it just feels like the "right" time to run around with a chainsaw.
But ya know, its fun. A hell of a lot more fun than watching Leno.

Oh... but wait, that's my opinion, not yours. Should I actually say that YOU are wasting your time too? I mean afterall, I don't like Leno - therefore it must be wrong. Or at least a waste...

But no. Watch Leno, I don't care.

I haven't watched Leno since 10 years ago - but based on that alone, I feel I'm educated on the subject of Leno to at least know that it's a waste to watch.

What you asked wasn't a question, it was a pointed question with the intent to say what people choose to do with their time in your opinion is a waste. What if I said to you that people who spend their time trying to work on cars are wasting their time? Or people who collect stamps, golf, competitive chess, gardens in the backyard... I mean, seems like anything could be considered a waste to someone.

This is America buddy - feel free to ask even more stupid questions like this, because millions of 'stupid' people thought it would be worth their time to defend that right for you, and died for it.

Just don't be shocked that most intelligent people don't agree with you.
October 10, 2006 3:17:07 PM

you have yet to tell us what you deem as valuble ways to spend your spare time. What exactly do you do for fun?
October 10, 2006 3:22:33 PM

OK, this is my first Post on THGFORUMS, I have been reading the forums and visiting THG For Years on end, Mostly for the reviews, But this Guy finally Compelled me to register.. LOL, thanks bud..

I must have missed it somewhere, but yes, i would like to see what you do for fun, since you're so worried about what we do for fun.. Not too much to ask is it?

Sounds to me like you need to sit down and relax, PLAY A GAME, have a beer or something.. Sounds like you spend too much time taking life seriously.. You DO Need some downtime every now and then. I cant see how someone could be so "Serious" all the time.. You'll Probably Die at an early Age from stress, or a heart attack.


I am an Avid Gamer, Every Night with my Clan, on our Servers, Even when im not gaming, i Get on Teamspeak and Just kinda chill on there talking to my clanmates, But I also Work, Goto School, Run Every Morning.. Your vision of a gamer is WAY OFF Bud..
October 10, 2006 3:28:45 PM

I have to agree with what verndewd said and some others. The way your post sound, the way you put it, is definitely going to anger some people here, this is inevitable. My answers to your question is, I don't have to justify to anyone the amount of time I spent or $ spent on computer. It is my life, I chose to live it this way, so leave it as it is. To answer your second question, define beneficial/useful. Everyone has their own definition of useful, in the things they do. If you think you find it useful to spend so much time in cleaning others toilet, so be it. If others think it is fine to spend so much time in gaming so be it. It is the same for you, you find it useful to spend so much time in studying/working, so be it. We don't go around saying people who spend so much time in studying are nerds or whatever nor do we question them in such a way that it is insultive to them. It all comes down to your personal preference.

It is a cycle, let me put it in one way. You chose to study more than gaming, fine, you gain knowledge in the amount of time spent in your study but at the same time you don't get as much gaming pleasure out of others who spend more time in gaming than studying. In this life, there is always give and take, yes? You study, get good grades, but fare badly in gaming. People don't study, get fair grades, but games well. Do you see my point? And I am talking about the majority of people in this world now. And there is hardly anyone that can play as much and yet get good grades ( beside those with IQ of 160 ++ ).

And if you think " hardcore gamers " are ridiculous in the way they spend so much time and $ on their computers/games then you should really open your eyes wide. There is many more type of ppl that are even more ridiculous than us, people spending up to hundreds of thousands on designers brands ( LV, Aigner, Chanel ). People spending $50,000 on a watch, on a ring. Now tell me my friend who is more ridiculous here. Why don't you take yourself to some forum that is meant for fashion enthusiasts and rant there asking the same questions you did here.
October 10, 2006 3:33:57 PM

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What is the question to the answer 42?

So take it that no one got the Douglas Adams reference..... [/sulks]
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