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Nvidia Versus ATI? Which is better for Gaming?

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October 10, 2006 6:30:21 PM

Ok i am buying a new Graphics card Pci-E. I have a 6200 LE and i am tired of have settings all on low. I want to have the settings on BF2 at least on med/high on 1024 by 768 (i have small 15 or 16 inch computer).
I can spend $100-$160. ive been looking at geforce 7600 and the ati x850 (i know nothing about Ati cards so if i say something stupid plz excuse me)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102688

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130062

These seem like theyll do a good job. 1 has 12 pipelines 1 has 16 is this gonna make a difference in gaming? Which is better at gaming nvidia or ATI i heard 1 was better at video editing and the other at gaming.

Any way plz tell me if these are a good buy for the $100-$160 limit. If not plz recommend a better card.
a b U Graphics card
October 10, 2006 6:34:55 PM

IMO the GF7600GT is the better choice. Sur ethey both win their various games and the X850XT will likely take more games on paper, but the major area where it outperforms is high resolution, which is not your case here (10x7).

Both are good for video editing and gaming nowadays (software has been updated).

In general I'd say the GF7600GT will do more for your for a while longer and while the X850XT has more raw grunt, it won't be as noticeable to you on your settings, not that the GF7600GT is a slouch either.

Had it been the GF7600GS then this would be a harder choice, but IMO the GF7600GT is a clear good choice for your specific case.
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a b U Graphics card
October 10, 2006 6:49:38 PM

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The x850xt might better because of HDR and AA, but consider these as well:


Watchoo talking about Willis? You're wrong on that.

And the X800XL is a step down from the X850XT.

The XFX GT is a good choice for another GT.
October 10, 2006 7:08:02 PM

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The x850xt might better because of HDR and AA

X800 series can't.
October 10, 2006 7:16:19 PM

I have the x850xt pe, and I was in a similar predicament as you. Its simple though, the x850 has more muscle and the 7600 is slightly more advanced.... namely SM3. My pick is the x850, b/c its at a better price, and does a very good job with the newet games. I can play CS:S with 6x AA and 16x AF and still get 100+ FPS at 1024x768. and around 70FPS on 1280x1024. It handles FEAR, Doom3, FarCry, and all current source engine games well. Haven't tried BF2 yet (don't really plan on it), but I'm sure it would handle it with ease.

Either way, both are great cards for the money, and it is hard to declare a winner. It really comes down to price, brand preference, and the games you play.

The main con with the x850 I should point out, is that it runs really hot on the stock cooler. Given that its thermal limits are high enough to withstand the temps, the fan can get quite loud (I'm already use to it and don't notice) but the card rased my overall system temp too. Definately something to note. I've heard the 7600 runs quieter and cooler.....
a b U Graphics card
October 10, 2006 7:24:50 PM

BTW, this is not an ATi versus nV recommendation, this is a card recommendation.

Neither wins in all markets. Higher up it's ATi cards that are better, highest it's the nV Quad GF7950GX2 setup, low end it's ATi once again.

But even then there's reasons to get either or for the right price.

BTW, the X8xx series is a generation older than the GF7600 so nV already had a target to aim for with that card, they were never existing together as competing products in their lineups.
October 10, 2006 7:39:52 PM

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The x850xt might better because of HDR and AA

X800 series can't.
Neither can the Geforce 7 series[/smartass]
a b U Graphics card
October 10, 2006 7:45:39 PM

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I've heard the 7600 runs quieter and cooler.....


GF7600GT actually quite loud, I doubt it's that much quieter if at all, likely louder under normal use (rememebr it's a small high RPM fan).
a b U Graphics card
October 10, 2006 7:59:07 PM

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Neither can the Geforce 7 series[/smartass]


Actually BOTH can, just not FP16HDR+AA.

But what I was saying is 'NO, it's not better because of that' because the GF7 can do all the HDR+AA the X850 can.

IF anything the FP16 alone would be the difference, and that favours the GF7600 not X850.
October 10, 2006 8:01:58 PM

Awwww, I was just trying to have some fun by provoking prozac26.
October 10, 2006 8:19:10 PM

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I've heard the 7600 runs quieter and cooler.....


GF7600GT actually quite loud, I doubt it's that much quieter if at all, likely louder under normal use (rememebr it's a small high RPM fan).

doesnt matter how loud it is for me i have music going and 4 loud fans already making alot of noise.

So from what it sounds like i should go with either one and take a chance?
i was looking at those cards enforcer but 1 of them doesnt have a Vga output. so i dont think itll work.
October 10, 2006 8:31:31 PM

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Awwww, I was just trying to have some fun by provoking prozac26.

Dude, I'm close friends with North Korea, so keep your crap hole shut!
October 10, 2006 8:53:23 PM

hahahaha....

To OP: Honestly, you can't go wrong with either cards. Like I said, most of the time the x850 will however, out muscle the 7600gt, but the 7600 has some things the x850 doesn't.

Just close your eyes and pick the one of the brand and price you prefer.

P.S.- I am completely happy with my x850 that I purchased only a week or so ago
a b U Graphics card
October 10, 2006 8:56:36 PM

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doesnt matter how loud it is for me i have music going and 4 loud fans already making alot of noise.


Same here, use headphones all the time, but it's for your info and others who may see this thread.

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So from what it sounds like i should go with either one and take a chance?
i was looking at those cards enforcer but 1 of them doesnt have a Vga output. so i dont think itll work.


Anything that doesn't have a VGA out has a dongle/adapter to provide VGA, dual DVI is better IMO than DVI+VGA.

Like I said before I recommend the GF7600GT, and that's primarily due to your use pattern, it's your call, but long term I'd stick with the GF7600GT for feature set as well.
October 10, 2006 9:52:58 PM

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doesnt matter how loud it is for me i have music going and 4 loud fans already making alot of noise.


Same here, use headphones all the time, but it's for your info and others who may see this thread.

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So from what it sounds like i should go with either one and take a chance?
i was looking at those cards enforcer but 1 of them doesnt have a Vga output. so i dont think itll work.


Anything that doesn't have a VGA out has a dongle/adapter to provide VGA, dual DVI is better IMO than DVI+VGA.

Like I said before I recommend the GF7600GT, and that's primarily due to your use pattern, it's your call, but long term I'd stick with the GF7600GT for feature set as well.

kk i guess ill get the geforce i was gonna get the ATI card being it has more pixelpipelines but if yall say itll have same performance. I kind alike nvidia better cause its easier to understand like geforece 7950x is best in the geforces but for ati they use x(something) makes it alittle harder to understand.
October 11, 2006 1:50:44 AM

the ATi 1950XTX uses GDD4 memory while the 7950GX2 or w/e uses GDD3 but the memory interface on the 7950GX2 is 512 compared to ATis 256.
October 11, 2006 9:00:06 PM

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the ATi 1950XTX uses GDD4 memory while the 7950GX2 or w/e uses GDD3 but the memory interface on the 7950GX2 is 512 compared to ATis 256.


Did you even read the thread?

To OP: I ended up choosing the ATI card based on brand preference and a slightly cheaper price, but like the other guy said, its your call
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