Which Case to choose?

I am really debating about which case to get. The first case I really, really like and it looks like it could cool everything. However I have seen #2 "armor" and it is a strong reliable big case. Is the Antec case large enough to hold a Crossfire setup with X6800 and 2x raptors comfortably or is it to small or cheaply built? What do you think? Better alternitives than this?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16811129021

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811133154
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  1. I prefer this one and it is costs less... LianLi PC-60BPlusII w/Window Black Aluminum Case
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811112116

    Another good one, similar yet under $100
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16811112025
  2. These LianLi's comes with quiet yet good air flow using Adda case fans and have an excellent cooling design.
  3. you're right about the Antec nine hundred it looks like it can cool anything, if you look close there is yet another 120mm mount in the side vent

    http://images10.newegg.com/productimagecompressall35/11-129-021-06.jpg http://images10.newegg.com/productimagecompressall35/11-129-021-10.jpg<-- click on these

    So if you install the side fan 4 x 120mm fans and one top 200mm - even at the lowest speeds can keep all your components cool with a whisper.

    Consider a traditional top-mount psu has to take convection heat dissapated from other components, compared to having the cool air blowing through from the front fans - which setup do you think will keep the psu temps down... Not to mention modern 120mm PSUs don't exactly have a whole lot of airflow to begin with so the lower mounted psu option is probably better.

    Unless you are building a fileserver with a ton of hdd's the armor has 13 bays so that's a good choice in that case. Then again, the dual 120's in the front of the antec seems like it can easily cool 6 hdds.

    Newegg is a ripoff in this case I saw it on froogle for $106 shipped from page computers, if you can stand their crappy webpage...
  4. The first one I listed costs $129 and has a 120mm filtered front intake blowing across the hard drives, and a side mounted on plexiglass over graphic cards, and a rear intake blowing over processor towards RAM, and then a top blowhole...
    http://www.lian-li.com/Product/Chassis/Middle_Tower/Classical_Plus_S/M_C_PS_PC-60plus_2.htm
  5. I have the PC-60 Plus II, in black. Amazing case for a first build. Plenty of room for a Crossfire system with the hard drive lack loaded with 3 drives.

    My only qualm with it would be that I can't use the top fan with my Hiper Type-R 580W PSU, but it's modular and it sticks out too far, so that's more of a PSU issue than a case issue.

    Very easy to work with, didn't cut myself at all on it, and looks great with the window lit up in green ^_^

    Might want it in silver, though - the dust shows up really well on black, but I suppose that would happen on any black case.
  6. I just finished building my system with the Armor LCS and I love it. It only has one problem, the holes drilled to screw the pump down are wrong and you have to fight with that, but otherwise it's a sweet case and has loads of room for mods, crossfire setup or anything you wanna throw in there. Nice fabrication too, feels like quality, it's MASSIVE so you better make sure you have some room.

    I can hear the fans when i use it so it's not 100% quiet but everything is modular and fans can easily be replaced. I give mine an 8 out of 10 and i'm very difficult.
  7. FYI, I am using the ThermalTake W106, a 700watt modular PSU, and it fits fine and does not interfere with the top fan...
  8. Quote:
    I am really debating about which case to get. The first case I really, really like and it looks like it could cool everything. However I have seen #2 "armor" and it is a strong reliable big case. Is the Antec case large enough to hold a Crossfire setup with X6800 and 2x raptors comfortably or is it to small or cheaply built? What do you think? Better alternitives than this?


    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16811129021

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811133154


    My Antec Nine hundred case should arrive tommorrow and I expect to have it up and running by this weekend. I am taking most of the internal components from a Systemax Venture case and moving it to the Antec.

    I just installed an Arctic freezer Pro 7 cpu cooler in the Systemax case and was able to reduce the CPU temperature by 14 degrees Celsius and it is also quieter since I installed the Arctic Cooler.

    I will try to remember to post some feedback on the Antec nine hundred case here.

    I think some concerns folks have are dust in the case and extra noise (because the case is more open) and heat because the power supply is not isolated like it is in the P180 case. This case will be in my bedroom so it better not make too much noise when I am trying to get to sleep. I will let you know if it passes the "Princess and the Pea" test. :lol:
  9. Mine sticks out so far because the modular connections aren't just molex/equivalent-style plugs, they're keyed screw-in connections. So they stick out quite a bit. I find that to be much more secure than just molexes, but that's my opinion.
  10. Quote:

    Newegg is a ripoff in this case I saw it on froogle for $106 shipped from page computers, if you can stand their crappy webpage...


    I bought mine from Provantage, I have done business with them in the past.

    http://www.provantage.com/system-cases~66SCASE_0.htm
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    you're right about the Antec nine hundred it looks like it can cool anything, if you look close there is yet another 120mm mount in the side vent



    I will have to try some testing like this article...

    http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=230

    If I get the same results then it would be cool to do Top and Rear fans at max CPU and switch to Top and Front fans during CPU Idle.
  12. Well, I missed the shipment and had to go out to the Fedex place to pick up the case. I just got it home an hour ago and took it out. The case had a couple of dents in the side toward the top on the right side (like a philips screwdriver was placed against it and hit sharply with the palm of the hand). Looks like it had to have happened at the factory because the shipping box and foam inserts were in great shape. No paint is missing where the dents are and I tried to pop them back out the best I could. The back and top fans are pretty quiet on the high setting but the front two fans are louder on the high setting. I may have to run the front fans on the medium setting. The case and fan power connecters are not the best quality I have seen when compared to other cases I own or have owned. The side covers metal thickness is pretty thin and the sides flex a little when I have them off ( but I will not say its made of beer cans ). The case is not up to what I expected quality-wise. The firewire and USB connectors on top of the case also appear to be low-quality. I had to work at getting the fans power connectors hooked to a spare power supply that I used to test the fans. I will start looking at the motherboard standoffs and see what I have to do to prepare moving the guts from the old case into this one. One of the reviews that I read said that $150 was too much for the case and that it should sell for around $100 (which is what I bought this one for) and I think I know why that statement was made now. Maybe Antec will release another version of this case with thicker metal and some quality connectors in the future. I guess the case is ok but I cannot give a whole hearted stamp of approval to others based on my opinion of the case. I am hoping I do not experience any case vibration noises when I get the system built.

    More opinions later...
  13. I got most of the guts transferred from the old case to the new Antec nine hundred case. This case is running lower temperatures than the old case and I cannot even feel heat coming out of the power supply anymore. Here the comparison, same Intel D945GPM motherboard, 1gig ram with an Intel Pentium D 840 dual processor chip.

    Room temperature 72 degrees Fahrenheit.

    All temperatures below are Celsius...

    ..................CPU temp...Internal temp...Remote temp...Hard Drive temp

    OLD(fans high).......64................53..................39...................33

    New(fans high).......59................34..................26...................26
    ........MAX CPU

    New(fans low)........60................40..................28...................28
    ........MAX CPU

    New(fans low)
    .......(CPU idle)........45................35.................28....................27

    The Antec case is really quiet with all the fans set to low. The CPU fan would run around 2900-3000 rpm constantly during the stress test with the old case but it only runs around 900-1100 rpm in the new case with all the fans set to low.

    When the CPU is idle the CPU fan runs around 400 rpm.

    I really like this case now but I still have reservations about the top pci express slot on my motherboard as that is where I will be putting a PCI express video card. It looks like I might not be able to plug the video connector on the video card but I will not know until I make a decision on what video card to buy and actually buy it. It will just be inconvenient to have to take everything back out of the case and take my metal cutoff wheel to remedy this situation should it occur.
  14. It's good to know it's "as cool as it looks", your input is appreciated greatly. Let us know how you make out w/ the new video card...
  15. I realise you already got the case but IMO no on really makes better quality then Lian LI D:
  16. I agree with enforcer22. I have a Lian Li and it keeps everything very cool. Highest CPU temp ever logged was 129F or 54C. Lian Li I would highly recommend to anyone building.
  17. Holy cow your cpu gets hot D: i start thinking about new thermal paste if mine hits 45c D: With the 3500+ i normaly wouldnt go over 35c and could idle at around 25 to 28c but this damn x2 idles more around 35c and gets up as high as 45c :-/ if it didnt have two cores i would be irritated D:

    Gah please dont take this as rude but that is one ugly case D:
  18. Yeah, but that's with a crappy HSF, so I'm pretty happy with it. And yeah, P4's are notorious for being hot. blah
  19. May I suggest the Silverstone Gloria model? I have one and I am very pleased. I cut a hole for a top fan and now I have a 120mm fan in the case. It took 15 mintutes to do and now my case is very very cool.
    -cm

    Oh yeah, the Gloria only cost 100 bucks I think. Ill have to check my receipt.
  20. OOO a p-4 hell how do you keep it so cool?
  21. I think the power supply from the old case does not like running with the fan pointing upwards. At first I thought It was a transformer because the new case is so quiet but I stopped the fan in the power supply and the buzzing stops.

    I am keeping my eye on one of those Enermax Galaxy power supplies. I need to find out if someone is running one with the fan pointing up and would also like to know if the Galaxy is quiet. I am having a hard time justifying $250 for a power supply though.
  22. No idea i just mount it how it fits with the plate on my case. Ill let ya know when i get the new PSU since thats the next one i plan on getting.
  23. apart from what everyone else has said, one thing I always prefer in a case is metal.

    Plastic see through sides are cool, but they let through electromagnetic radiation, which won't DAMAGE anything, bt can interfere with signals to monitors and speakers.
  24. Well aluminum deflects electromagnetic fields but not all metals will. Speakers and crt's are sources of said fields course anyone who knows anything doesnt put un shielded devices such as thiese near thier compuers. I dont really care much for windows my self just happened the case i wanted came with one.
  25. I have identified another sound. It seems to be coming from a power supply unit that I use to power my security cameras. It Figures, get a quiet case and then I start hearing all the other components that covered by the noise the old pc case made.

    I unplugged all my fans except the top chimney fan and I still get lower temperatures than I got with the old case. Cooling-wise this case is awsome.

    The only other sound I hear is the disk drive when it seeks between cylinders.
  26. doesnt really make any sense a case would be better with only one fan. where is the heat going? or are you only talking about idle temp.
  27. Dude, provantage rules! I ordered an Antec TPII-480 for $61 shipped on 10/19 around 1am, it was processed by 11am and I got the package 10/20 in the late afternoon.

    Amazing! Kudos to both Provantage and UPS that was incredible. I was going to get it from Page but I noticed they raised the price :x
  28. Quote:
    doesnt really make any sense a case would be better with only one fan. where is the heat going? or are you only talking about idle temp.


    Ill be darned if I can figure out why this case runs so cool but the chimney fan by itself on the low setting cools better than my old case did. The power supply in the old case used to pour heat out the back but in this case the power supply does not seem to ever put out any heat. My CPU fan would probably just shut off if the motherboard would let it.
    I think I will disconnect the CPU fan for grins just to see what happens.
    The cpu coolor is an Arctic Freezer Pro 7.

    I have drawn some lines where I intend to cut the metal for a video card if the connector does not have enough clearance...

    Picture of how I intend to increase slot clearance if needed.
  29. Quote:
    Dude, provantage rules! I ordered an Antec TPII-480 for $61 shipped on 10/19 around 1am, it was processed by 11am and I got the package 10/20 in the late afternoon.

    Amazing! Kudos to both Provantage and UPS that was incredible. I was going to get it from Page but I noticed they raised the price :x


    Yeah, they have been pretty good to me. I think they have distibution points all across the USA for quick shipment and sometimes the deals have been so good that I told myself to hurry up and order because someone must have messed up on the pricing of a product. :lol:
    They do not seem to be as visible as Tiger direct and some of the other folks out there but I suppose in time, the secret will be out.
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    I think I will disconnect the CPU fan for grins just to see what happens.
    The cpu coolor is an Arctic Freezer Pro 7.
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    Kidding right? please say yes or i fear ill break my keyboard beating my head on it. Even if i actualy gave a damn about having a silent computer from back and cpu fan would always have to be there just quiet ones ;)
  31. Quote:

    I think I will disconnect the CPU fan for grins just to see what happens.
    The cpu coolor is an Arctic Freezer Pro 7.
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    Kidding right? please say yes or i fear ill break my keyboard beating my head on it. Even if i actualy gave a damn about having a silent computer from back and cpu fan would always have to be there just quiet ones ;)

    Well, I disconnected the CPU fan, maxed both CPUs on my Pentium D 840 and put all the case fans on low until the CPU temperature hit 90 degrees Celsius.

    I then set all 4 case fans to maximum speed which brough the CPU temperature down to 70 degrees Celsius.

    I connected the CPU fan back and the temperature dropped to 60 degrees Celsius.

    I stopped the stress test and allowed the CPU's to idle and the CPU temperature went down to 40 degrees celcius.

    I know I can run this chip as high as 90 degrees Celsius so maybe I will get a fan controller so I can turn off the 2 front fans and leave the top and rear fans on low. I will of course leave the Freezer Pro 7 cooler running under motherboard control.
  32. um your obsession with quiet from this post is vary vary bad for your cpu. those temps are way to hot. aside the 40c one. i feel for that cpu as its life is going to be a vary short one at this rate.
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    um your obsession with quiet from this post is vary vary bad for your cpu. those temps are way to hot. aside the 40c one. i feel for that cpu as its life is going to be a vary short one at this rate.


    Its not exactly an obsession. Thats how my old system came. I ran stress tests for 8 hours and the CPU ran up around 90 degrees centigrade during the stress test. I sent email to Systemax and said that Intels specifications for the Pentium D 840 maximum case temperature was 69.8 degrees Celsius. They sent me another heatsink and I got the same results. I ended up getting a Arctic Freezer Pro 7 which brought the temperatures down by quite a bit and this Antec 900 case brings it down even more. I think I can breath easy next summer when the temperatures in my room gets up into the 90's (Fahrenheit).

    Im glad someone agrees with me that 90 degrees Celcius in not a good place to keep running my processor. 8O I am glad that the 840 cpu chip is only about $100 to replace though.

    It rarely gets above 60 degrees Celsius at maximum burn now that I have the new CPU cooler and the Antec case.
  34. 60c 70c 80c 90c is all kinda to hot. At those temps you are defanitly increaseing the amount of errors that cpu makes. CPU's are rated to run at specific temps but they dont add how well. An electronics rule the cooler the better. Not sure of the word since i havent used it in a while i think is electro migration or something? heat spots on the silicon. try and keep it in the 40c rang.
  35. This Intel D945GPM motherboard does not seem to start kicking the CPU fan up from its idle RPM until the CPU reaches the neighborhood of 60 degrees Celcius. I think I will be find as long as the processor case stays below Intels spec of 69.8 Degrees Celcius.

    :D
  36. yeah i can set that to 60c also :) mine however says 70c when i look at it. o well your hardware im not going to argue the point anymore you now more heat = shorter life less praformance. Since you still want it that way ill assume you dont care and drop it.
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    yeah i can set that to 60c also :) mine however says 70c when i look at it. o well your hardware im not going to argue the point anymore you now more heat = shorter life less praformance. Since you still want it that way ill assume you dont care and drop it.


    I read postings on the web where some folks are running at 90 degrees celcius on a regular basis without problems. I do care but I think Im in the safe temperature zone now. This chip will probably live longer than I will. :lol:
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