3 ATI to choose from... 1 Geforce...

Considerng the games give each card a number roll a dice and see where it lands. It really doesnt matter much for those games. Hell i could still use my old 8500 for those i think

Three months ago, i purchase X1600XT, i'm very satisfied with it. But this month comes 7600GT with the same price as i purchase X1600XT, if only DA 7600GT comes faster

ati typically has a weaker midrange than nvidia. I recommend the 7600 gt - it is in the same price range as the cards you are looking at ($120). The 7600 gts is apparently the same thing. I have heard evga is one of the best third parties. compare the performance between a 7600gt any of the other choices. it is a good card. the best value is actually at the high end, as directx 9 cards die, with the 7900 gto (a 'firmware' downgraded gtx that you can change to a gtx with software), but that's probably not what you're looking for.

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toss a few extra bucks into a 7900GS, these cards are cheap and rock everything, VERY fast and CHEAP!

Honestly for the games that you're going to be playing, get the cheapest, they will all run those games extremely well.

XT even though its sapphire im sure its ok

That would explain why i hear more complaints about ATI cards since whenever that happened. Course ATI says they make thier own PCB wouldnt that be false advertisment?

I thought that just ment ATI chip 3rd party PCB. In anycase sapphire is just one of those companys i have had so many problems with cant use them. Not just in my computers but i build them for a living. Funny thing is i dont even preffer ATI boards even though its my only real choice since who i preffer stopped making video cards. Hecules anyone? got a 9600 pro from them that was OC'ed to a 9800xt spec in factory probly the best video card i have ever got. I'm kinda a hater when it comes to companys letting 3rd party venders destroy thier products. That was my first major beef with nvidia and im still irritated AMD refuses to make thier own chipsets. Lucky nvidia came along or i would have just over looked intels major flaws and been using P4 for the past couple years.

That's called "Powered By ATi".

As for the rest of them, Sapphire no longer makes anywhere near the amount of cards it used to, there was a time when they were mostly Sapphire, but Sapphire has cut back alot and Foxconn and Celstica make others. So depending on the model it might not even be made by Sapphire.

Might have had core and memory speed of an R9800XT, but not chance it's equivalent.

Well now AMD does design their own chipset, the making will come later with the FAB plant changes.

Really no company is flawless when looked over a long period, eVGA was the gold standard for nV, then the GF7900GT/7600GT issues cam up and then they aren't flawless anymore. The main thing is to check how any company is doing lately. Despite Powercrapper... errr... poercolor/colourpower's early craptastic quality, they are now the only ATi OEM card partner to provide a lifetime warranty, and they are made for Tul by Foxconn not Sapphire.

Yeah, I bought a 9800Pro from Power(crapper)color 4 years ago and it had artifacts in it. I sent it back and the company I bought it from charged me a 15% restocking fee. Let's just say I don't do business with that company anymore. And I wasn't planning on giving PC another chance until now.

JunnYeen,

I see the Sapphire X800GTO is selling for $130 at Newegg but it's AGP. Speaking of, are you looking for AGP or PCI-Express? I would assume it's AGP since you mentioned that the first card on your list costs $120.

If you are looking at AGP, get the X850XT as you can get the Sapphire one for $126. And the X850XT is the best one of this bunch. Too bad the PE version is out-of-stock.

Sorry to double post

But i concluded to get the Power Colour X1650Pro

But he was talking about 'certified by ATi' not "Powered By" or "Built By ATi" (which never is really) aka BBA.

No but you said spec, not speed so for the audience who still think you can mod every mid-range card, just pointing that out. As for the card itself, yes solid card, my BBA was great could clock to stratospheric numbers making it competative with the R9500P, and OC'ed beyond most R9600XTs.

But you forget they bought ATi for that very reason, their MoBo/Chipset/Integrated group (other graphics were somewhat secondary). Re-read my statement and understand how that appplies, and just as much as nV makes their AMD now makes their own, and soon they will actually be fabing the chipsets et al in their unused FAB space, thus getting them beyond nV-level and into Intel level.

Personally I never liked the reference designs because of features (or lack thereof), but with the ATi side of the equation, for the short term at least there should be some good AMD reference chipsets once they start coming out, right now nV owns that market still IMO.

Waht do you prefer, bigger company Sapphire, better warranty Powercolor?

I'd say if you're keeping it more than 2 years Powercolor, anything less get the one with the coolest heatsink.

LOL

New update.

I think this is resolved.

The store im buying the video card that was selling me the X1650pro was such a rip off deal for a 145 dollars for the card. So i said screw it and said "since you took so long and made me have alot of troubles discount me for another card" So they asked "... which card..." and i said EVGA GEFORCE 7600GT *189 dollars canadian* but they discounted it for 160 dollars canadian. What i deal that is