Overkill?

Ok, I'm going into 10th grade next year, and will be taking the following courses: Honors math, AP Comp Sci (C++), Honors English (hard course- no one has ever gotten an A), Science Scholars (this is for Intel Project), AP European History, Honors French, and Health (manditory). Does this sound like it's too hard?

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Yes it does. You can handle it but I bet you won't be posting here as much.

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Do you want to go to college? If your answer is yes then take that load or something even harder since you'll need it. You might as well get ready for the hard work that's coming your way in the future. As long as you're in school you might as well push yourself and learn something. Trust me...it's worth it. If you pick a hard major in college you'll be ready and if you pick something easy you'll scate through college with plenty of time for women and parties.

Nonetheless, that doesn't look to bad. Depends on your strengths though. Odds are French will be the hardest course since learning a foriegn language without actually using it is really hard imop. You don't live in Canada do you? Use the French.

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I did that once when I was in high school (11th grade),

but ended up taking vivrin pills to stay up all night doing homework.

later I found out it wasnt the best thing for me, so
during my senior year, I took it easy.

Regardless, I have finished college with a 3.85gpa ,
it would of been a 4.0 if it wasnt for one racist intsructor we had.

So if you can sleep at night and keep up with the work, go for it,
just dont kill yourself.



A person who asks a ? might be a fool for 5 min., but a person who doesnt ask is a fool forever

It looks to hard to me but I was always involved with sports you may have more time to devote to it than I did.

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Oh, another word of advice: If you get credit for some university courses in highschool, and have the option of going straight to the second year courses, DON'T DO IT. Do the extra classes in high school, but still take the first year course at uni. I'd have gotten slaughtered in second year math classes if I'd have skipped 1st year like I could have (I got 95%+ in math/calc etc in hs). I breezed through 1st year honours math (A- both terms), but had a few problems 2nd year (unrelated issues heh). Not only do they teach things in 1st year uni that they don't touch in those advanced hs courses, but the extra As sure do look good on your university transcripts.

If my baby don't love me, I know, I know, her sister will.

Honors and AP courses are designed for college-oriented students. Anything less is a complete waste of your time if you want to actually come away with something, anything, from your high school education.

My honest advice? Take the GED and graduate now. Then go to a junior college until you're ready for a 4 year university. If anything, still take PE and social courses at your high school. It depends on how mature you are. A junior college will have all the courses you could possibly want to take until you're mature enough for a 4 year university. Want to take PE? Take fencing, archery, swimming, surfing or something else that's fun. Join a team, take martial arts, or join a club.

If I were to redo my high school education I would have taken the GED when I was 14, still taken yearbook and drama in high school, and then taken English, Math, Biology, etc at my local junior college. As it is, my high school education was 4 years wasted. I did take all the enriched courses, I did "supposedly" go to a good school, but it was a waste of time. The intellectual jump from high school to college was so huge that I was caught off guard.

The truth is that getting an education in high school is most likely not going to happen. Be prepared for that. So you might as well take advantage of every enriched course they have if you're going to wake up and go to school at 8 a.m. 5 days a week for 4 years. If you don't want to leave high school just yet and they don't have enough advanced courses petition for a shorter day.

When I was 14 I didn't even know that these possibilities existed, so I'm just letting you know. If you really want to know what high school is going to teach you, go and quiz a local high school graduate. See if they know where world events are happening, how politics works, ask them some science questions, see if they understand geometry and math, question them on world history, etc. My experience has shown that high school barely teaches people how to grasp their local surroundings. Odds are they can't balance their checkbook, they think Paris is "somewhere over there", they weren't aware the cold war is over, they think that WWII was won by America, and they think the Revolutionary War was won in 1776. They have a show on TV called "Street Smarts" just for our brilliant high school graduates. Only those who choose to read and study outside of high school are more educated.

We've discussed this in many different threads, but the fact that people said you would have a hard time kind of rubbed me the wrong way. Don't waste your time if you don't have to. You can leave high school and still have tons of friends. Don't let that discourage you.

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English isn't all it's cracked up to be man. If you really want to learn proper english, get a grammar book and do a lot of crosswords. Most teachers force their particular style on you, and don't really reward creativity (despite what they say).

Take me for example. My english mark was the lowest of all of my marks in highschool (86%), yet I probably have the best formal english out of anyone who graduated there (I blew goats in poetry). I then went on to university, where first year english is a requirement.

1st term: I took the essay writing course. This was good, and very structured and fair (I got a B+ on everything, with one A-). Wasn't beneficial as I didn't have to write any essays in my other courses...

2nd term: This was a freaking joke. I basically had the choice between poetry and fiction, or modern non-fiction. I took the modern non-fiction. What a freaking waste of my time and money. We had 3 major projects. One was an in class essay, one was an in class summary, and the biggest one was a take home essay.

I did alright on the in class essay (B-), but despite my honest effort and hard studying, I managed to somehow bomb the summary thing (C-). I mean, I knew my stuff, but the guy just didn't like my summary I guess.

Here's the kicker: For the final take home essay, it was supposed to be a huge deal. Tons of research on this book he gave us, bibliography, references, the whole nine yards. At this point, I had resigned myself to giving up. I wasn't gonna waste my time to get another C-, so I didn't read the book (I had read it years before anyways). My research: definition I pulled off of dictionary.com. My starting time: 3 am the day it was due while drunk after coming home from the bar. Finished it at 7 am, slept 4 hours, did a 1 hr edit job, handed it in. This is what was written on the back of the essay when I picked it up after turning in my final exam:

A+
Simply the best essay I have ever read on this subject.


I laughed my ass off right in front of the entire auditorium as I walked out.

So yeah, english is a joke.

If my baby don't love me, I know, I know, her sister will.

You can say that again! My mark goes from 93% one year to 82% the next year and back to the 90s again. With English, it depends on whether the teacher likes your style of writing or not.

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I completely agree with you 100%,

I came to America when I was in 5th grade, and then I was in 9th- I was still learning things that we <b>already</b> covered in Moldova (eastern Europe).
American education system is slow and way behind, I agree.

I was just suggesting that flamethrower slept at night and not be a sleep<i>walker</i>

A person who asks a ? might be a fool for 5 min., but a person who doesnt ask is a fool forever

I agree, Eastern Countries tend to sprend out education between grades better than other countries. Here in Canada, for example, up to Grade 9 is pure child's play, dumb math, essentially. Now, this year, I'm in an accelerated math course, however, so I've covered quite more than the average Grade 10 student.

I've done Trig, calculating Waves, Conics and Locus, Statistical data management (easy stuff, sequences and series and stuff).

Next year, I'm taking Calculus and the year after I'm taking some more Algebra and Geometry.

This year, I've covered most of high-school Triginometry. Everything from graphing the trigonometric functions to solving linear and quadratic trigonometric equation and proving trigonometric identities. I've done what's called the "ambiguous case" with the Sine Law. We've learnt both the sine law and the cosine law. We've done a lot of 3D word problems that relate to Trig.

Now, I'm not chinese myself, by many of my friends are and they take accelerated math classes outside school. They're way ahead of regular math but they're at the same point as the accelerated math course that I'm in (as well as many of my friends are in it).

Anyway, the really hard stuff all gets crammed into 2 years (Grade 11 and 12) here in Ontario.



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High School is easy.
Wait till you get to University, then ask the questions.

-From a student getting slaughtered in Civil Engineering

No! If you can't do well in high school then you shouldn't go to a good college. You shouldn't even be worried about doing poorly in high school if you are planning on going to a good college. You should know that you'll skate through with no problems whatsoever. It's way too easy.

Yes! If you do poorly in high school but good in a community college then you can get into a good college.

What I'm saying is skip the middleman and consider going straight to a community college. The second you start taking college courses high school should become irrelevant.

You’ve heard from the horse’s mouth that it’s “not too much”. You’re just going to end up wasting time that could be used towards actual scholastic achievement. It just seems to me that if you can cut a couple years off your education and still be ahead then why not do it? Imagine having a college degree 2-3 years early.


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Moldova is used to be part of Russia, so that’s my other language. But anyway, when I was in Pre School, the first year that I went to school was straight to 2nd grade. Then I had an opportunity to skip one, from 3rd to 5th- it all depends how you grasp what they teach you.

After you finish 8th grade, you have 2 choices, continue till you finish 10th grade, or go to an university and peruse your career.

So by the time your 18 you are graduated college with a degree.
Unfortunately I didn't have that opportunity, came to America and went to 5th grade.
I didn't know English, but that’s about the only thing I was behind in.

I guess the biggest reason why individual promotions were allowed is because of the culture thing.
And this kind of culture taught you discipline and moral law, even if your parents didn’t.
You see, there is no such thing as child abuse in Russia (almost),
A teacher in school had the right to punish her students – yes physically.
I got punished, and I have changed- I have behaved next time- and I loved my teacher for that- because she knew how to make the best out of me when I didn’t. Also I knew that she cared.


Over there police officers sometimes restrain, or allow teachers / parents to punish them for wrongdoing.
Its simple, you screwed up- its your fault, and you are going to get whacked.

Here its child abuse, and children get more spoiled than one can imagine.
My brother in law the other day punished his kid in the park (for disobeying), one guy saw him and told him not to do that,
He said, “its my child and I can do what ever I want”
The other guy called the cops.
Luckily my brother had enough time to leave the park before cops came.
Something about his kid-
He loves his dad to death, and he knows if he is getting punished its because his dad loves him, and knows what is best for him.

Given the given culture, over there people needed not to be afraid that their kids will misbehave in school, or there would be a need for detention. Education was valued not abused by most kids.

And after they did finish school, this discipline training, they are ready for life. They know what’s right, what’s wrong, what is respect, and how to work hard to achieve what ever they want to be achive.

I believe if in America physical discipline was instated, and if there was truly love behind disciplining someone, I doubt it will reap bad consequences.

Walk in to middle school in America, they control the teacher, they are wild and loose (I went to middle school here)
You hardly can learn anything because most of the time the teacher spend his/her time screaming at the kids for them to quite down.

If there was discipline, there would be true love for learning, and those who didn’t want to learn would no be there to bother the ones who do.

Too much freedom is bad I think. Because those don’t know how to use it, abuse it.

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Wow, that sounds heavy.
I say 'sounds' because I don't have a clue how heavy your schoolsystem is.
Anyway the Dutch schoolsystem is very different from your (as far as I know), but I can tell you which subjects/courses or however you want to call it I have:
Main courses (everybody at this level has them):
Dutch
English
French reading
German reading
Literature (English and Dutch)
Religion
Culture and art
Gymnastic

My profile courses (Nature and Technology it is called):
Math highest grade (B2)
Chemistry 1 and 2(=highest grade)
Physics 1 and 2

Extra courses:
Biologic 1 (not much)
Geography
Comp Science (Informatics)

With a hovering case crashing takes a whole new meaning... .

Bah, I think the western education systems needs to be refined. We learn practically nothing until after Grade 8! That makes kids slack off and they get caught by surprise in high school.

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