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November 29, 2004 11:56:50 AM

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I installed the free version 7.0 of AVG a week or so ago, and it works fine
on my Windows XP system with SP2 installed. My e-mail program and browser
are Outlook Express 6 and Internet Explorer 6.

However, yesterday I ran into a couple of odd situations.

In one, I received an e-mail in which what looked like word-processing
control parameters were intermixed with the sender's text.

In another, I sent an e-mail to my second e-mail address and never received
it, although there was never an error message saying the transmission
failed.

So I turned off the AVG e-mail scan option and was able to send e-mail to my
second address successfully. After that I asked my friend, the sender, to
send me another e-mail. It arrived without the gibberish this time.

Could the e-mail sent to me containing the word-processor appearing
gibberish have been caused by something the sender did? He does not use AVG.
Also, why would AVG prevent me from sending an e-mail to my other address,
or was it caused by something else? Thanks.

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Anonymous
November 29, 2004 3:51:02 PM

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"Papa" <bikingis@my.fun> wrote in message
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> I installed the free version 7.0 of AVG a week or so ago, and it
> works fine on my Windows XP system with SP2 installed. My e-mail
> program and browser are Outlook Express 6 and Internet Explorer 6.
>
> However, yesterday I ran into a couple of odd situations.
>
> In one, I received an e-mail in which what looked like word-processing
> control parameters were intermixed with the sender's text.
>
> In another, I sent an e-mail to my second e-mail address and never
> received it, although there was never an error message saying the
> transmission failed.
>
> So I turned off the AVG e-mail scan option and was able to send
> e-mail to my second address successfully. After that I asked my
> friend, the sender, to send me another e-mail. It arrived without the
> gibberish this time.
> Could the e-mail sent to me containing the word-processor appearing
> gibberish have been caused by something the sender did? He does not
> use AVG. Also, why would AVG prevent me from sending an e-mail to my
> other address, or was it caused by something else? Thanks.

Email scanning in ANY anti-virus is never a good idea. It provides no added
protection and can screw up OE, especially sending and receiving.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/
Anonymous
November 29, 2004 6:03:20 PM

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What Frank said!

Also...

The Other E-Mail Threat: File Corruption in Outlook Express
Published: November 18, 2004
By Tom Koch
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/f...

Scroll down to:
Viral Irony: The Most Common Cause of Corruption
----

[[In fact, the only real reason to use email and download scanning is to
make you feel more secure.]]
Messages in Inbox or other mail folders disappear
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgo...

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In news:%23ueL9sh1EHA.3820@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl,
Papa <bikingis@my.fun> hunted and pecked:
> I installed the free version 7.0 of AVG a week or so ago, and it
> works fine on my Windows XP system with SP2 installed. My e-mail
> program and browser are Outlook Express 6 and Internet Explorer 6.
>
> However, yesterday I ran into a couple of odd situations.
>
> In one, I received an e-mail in which what looked like word-processing
> control parameters were intermixed with the sender's text.
>
> In another, I sent an e-mail to my second e-mail address and never
> received it, although there was never an error message saying the
> transmission failed.
>
> So I turned off the AVG e-mail scan option and was able to send
> e-mail to my second address successfully. After that I asked my
> friend, the sender, to send me another e-mail. It arrived without the
> gibberish this time.
>
> Could the e-mail sent to me containing the word-processor appearing
> gibberish have been caused by something the sender did? He does not
> use AVG. Also, why would AVG prevent me from sending an e-mail to my
> other address, or was it caused by something else? Thanks.
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Anonymous
November 29, 2004 7:05:25 PM

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There are issues with AVG 7 and email - you might want to check out
Grisoft's website. Mine was not able to check email at all after
installing; the fix was to open AVG control center, click the email
scanner properties button (lower right), then select "Use Shared Test
Configuration" instead of the default "Use Personal Test
Configuration". HTH!

On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 08:56:50 -0500, "Papa" <bikingis@my.fun> wrote:

>I installed the free version 7.0 of AVG a week or so ago, and it works fine
>on my Windows XP system with SP2 installed. My e-mail program and browser
>are Outlook Express 6 and Internet Explorer 6.
>
>However, yesterday I ran into a couple of odd situations.
>
>In one, I received an e-mail in which what looked like word-processing
>control parameters were intermixed with the sender's text.
>
>In another, I sent an e-mail to my second e-mail address and never received
>it, although there was never an error message saying the transmission
>failed.
>
>So I turned off the AVG e-mail scan option and was able to send e-mail to my
>second address successfully. After that I asked my friend, the sender, to
>send me another e-mail. It arrived without the gibberish this time.
>
>Could the e-mail sent to me containing the word-processor appearing
>gibberish have been caused by something the sender did? He does not use AVG.
>Also, why would AVG prevent me from sending an e-mail to my other address,
>or was it caused by something else? Thanks.
>

Note - to reply by email, please reformat the addressee (should be pretty obvious)
November 29, 2004 7:49:12 PM

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"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23woLhRk1EHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
..
>
> Email scanning in ANY anti-virus is never a good idea. It provides no
> added protection and can screw up OE, especially sending and receiving.
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE

Thanks. I was aware of the absence of added protection in AV programs when
e-mail scanning is selected, but was hoping to get something definitive
about the do's and don't's of AVG 7.0. With AVG 6, I usually had the e-mail
scanning turned off, but it never balked or caused problems in OE when I
had it turned on.
November 29, 2004 10:03:14 PM

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Thanks, but as I said to Frank, I already knew that. I was trying to find
out if AVG version 7 itself has some flaws, or some options that would avoid
the errors I described.

"Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:eyan98l1EHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> What Frank said!
>
> Also...
>
> The Other E-Mail Threat: File Corruption in Outlook Express
> Published: November 18, 2004
> By Tom Koch
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/f...
>
> Scroll down to:
> Viral Irony: The Most Common Cause of Corruption
> ----
>
> [[In fact, the only real reason to use email and download scanning is to
> make you feel more secure.]]
> Messages in Inbox or other mail folders disappear
> http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgo...
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
> Wes
>
> In news:%23ueL9sh1EHA.3820@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl,
> Papa <bikingis@my.fun> hunted and pecked:
>> I installed the free version 7.0 of AVG a week or so ago, and it
>> works fine on my Windows XP system with SP2 installed. My e-mail
>> program and browser are Outlook Express 6 and Internet Explorer 6.
>>
>> However, yesterday I ran into a couple of odd situations.
>>
>> In one, I received an e-mail in which what looked like word-processing
>> control parameters were intermixed with the sender's text.
>>
>> In another, I sent an e-mail to my second e-mail address and never
>> received it, although there was never an error message saying the
>> transmission failed.
>>
>> So I turned off the AVG e-mail scan option and was able to send
>> e-mail to my second address successfully. After that I asked my
>> friend, the sender, to send me another e-mail. It arrived without the
>> gibberish this time.
>>
>> Could the e-mail sent to me containing the word-processor appearing
>> gibberish have been caused by something the sender did? He does not
>> use AVG. Also, why would AVG prevent me from sending an e-mail to my
>> other address, or was it caused by something else? Thanks.
>
Anonymous
November 29, 2004 10:03:15 PM

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I haven't moved to AVG 7.0 yet, still using 6.0. Waiting for you to iron
out the bugs. ;-)

IMHO, it doesn't matter if AVG 7.0 has a bug with E-mail scanning or not.
There is absolutely no reason to use it. It does *no* good and may cause
*great* harm.

Doesn't matter what antvirus software is used, if you use OE, it is not a
good idea to use E-mail scanning.

McAfee Virus Scan and Outlook Express corruption
http://tinyurl.com/6gyq5

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
By Fred's Scanner Service & Whoopee Emporium.




In news:%23kdBz$m1EHA.1740@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
Papa <bikingis@my.fun> hunted and pecked:
> Thanks, but as I said to Frank, I already knew that. I was trying to
> find out if AVG version 7 itself has some flaws, or some options that
> would avoid the errors I described.
>
> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:eyan98l1EHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> What Frank said!
>>
>> Also...
>>
>> The Other E-Mail Threat: File Corruption in Outlook Express
>> Published: November 18, 2004
>> By Tom Koch
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/f...
>>
>> Scroll down to:
>> Viral Irony: The Most Common Cause of Corruption
>> ----
>>
>> [[In fact, the only real reason to use email and download scanning
>> is to make you feel more secure.]]
>> Messages in Inbox or other mail folders disappear
>> http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgo...
>>
>> --
>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>> Wes
>>
>> In news:%23ueL9sh1EHA.3820@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl,
>> Papa <bikingis@my.fun> hunted and pecked:
>>> I installed the free version 7.0 of AVG a week or so ago, and it
>>> works fine on my Windows XP system with SP2 installed. My e-mail
>>> program and browser are Outlook Express 6 and Internet Explorer 6.
>>>
>>> However, yesterday I ran into a couple of odd situations.
>>>
>>> In one, I received an e-mail in which what looked like
>>> word-processing control parameters were intermixed with the
>>> sender's text.
>>>
>>> In another, I sent an e-mail to my second e-mail address and never
>>> received it, although there was never an error message saying the
>>> transmission failed.
>>>
>>> So I turned off the AVG e-mail scan option and was able to send
>>> e-mail to my second address successfully. After that I asked my
>>> friend, the sender, to send me another e-mail. It arrived without
>>> the gibberish this time.
>>>
>>> Could the e-mail sent to me containing the word-processor appearing
>>> gibberish have been caused by something the sender did? He does not
>>> use AVG. Also, why would AVG prevent me from sending an e-mail to my
>>> other address, or was it caused by something else? Thanks.
Anonymous
November 29, 2004 10:50:46 PM

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"Papa" <bikingis@my.fun> wrote in message
news:utdN60l1EHA.3840@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl
> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23woLhRk1EHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> .
>>
>> Email scanning in ANY anti-virus is never a good idea. It provides
>> no added protection and can screw up OE, especially sending and
>> receiving. --
>> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
>
> Thanks. I was aware of the absence of added protection in AV programs
> when e-mail scanning is selected, but was hoping to get something
> definitive about the do's and don't's of AVG 7.0. With AVG 6, I
> usually had the e-mail scanning turned off, but it never balked or
> caused problems in OE when I had it turned on.

I have had no problems with AVG 7. Of course I have email scanning turned
off and the email scanner plugin disabled.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/
Anonymous
November 30, 2004 11:38:29 AM

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> Email scanning in ANY anti-virus is never a good idea. It provides no
> added
> protection and can screw up OE, especially sending and receiving.
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
> Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
> http://www.fjsmjs.com
> Protect your PC
> http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

Is this why most of my mail shows as having an attachment, even when it
doesn't? I haven't had any problems with 7 yet, but this had me wondering.
November 30, 2004 7:57:46 PM

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"Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:o IHpqmn1EHA.3236@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>I haven't moved to AVG 7.0 yet, still using 6.0. Waiting for you to iron
> out the bugs. ;-)
>
> IMHO, it doesn't matter if AVG 7.0 has a bug with E-mail scanning or not.
> There is absolutely no reason to use it. It does *no* good and may cause
> *great* harm.
>
> Doesn't matter what antvirus software is used, if you use OE, it is not a
> good idea to use E-mail scanning.
<snip>
No scanning problems if you select "custom install" for AVG7.0 and de-select
the E-Mail bit. :-)
(lets the tray icon remain coloured)
Anonymous
November 30, 2004 7:57:47 PM

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Good tip. Thanks, Sunny.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In news:%23%23Z4Dnq1EHA.132@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
Sunny <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> hunted and pecked:
> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:o IHpqmn1EHA.3236@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> I haven't moved to AVG 7.0 yet, still using 6.0. Waiting for you to
>> iron out the bugs. ;-)
>>
>> IMHO, it doesn't matter if AVG 7.0 has a bug with E-mail scanning or
>> not. There is absolutely no reason to use it. It does *no* good and
>> may cause *great* harm.
>>
>> Doesn't matter what antvirus software is used, if you use OE, it is
>> not a good idea to use E-mail scanning.
> <snip>
> No scanning problems if you select "custom install" for AVG7.0 and
> de-select the E-Mail bit. :-)
> (lets the tray icon remain coloured)
Anonymous
November 30, 2004 8:22:37 PM

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If you have OE set read in plain text any HTML messages will have an
ATTXXXXX.htm attachment.


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.
Wes

In news:uoPlzGu1EHA.1524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl,
Patrick Weaver <pweaver@ljbinc.com> hunted and pecked:
>> Email scanning in ANY anti-virus is never a good idea. It provides
>> no added
>> protection and can screw up OE, especially sending and receiving.
>>
>> --
>> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
>> Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
>> http://www.fjsmjs.com
>> Protect your PC
>> http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/
>
> Is this why most of my mail shows as having an attachment, even when
> it doesn't? I haven't had any problems with 7 yet, but this had me
> wondering.
Anonymous
November 30, 2004 11:34:54 PM

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"Patrick Weaver" <pweaver@ljbinc.com> wrote in message
news:uoPlzGu1EHA.1524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl
>> Email scanning in ANY anti-virus is never a good idea. It provides
>> no added
>> protection and can screw up OE, especially sending and receiving.
>>
>> --
>> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
>> Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
>> http://www.fjsmjs.com
>> Protect your PC
>> http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/
>
> Is this why most of my mail shows as having an attachment, even when
> it doesn't? I haven't had any problems with 7 yet, but this had me
> wondering.

If you have OE set to read all messages in plain text and the message is in
HTML, the HTML part will appear as an attachment.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/
Anonymous
November 30, 2004 11:37:48 PM

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"mikey" <mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com> wrote in message
news:%23oJhtuw1EHA.3816@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl
> yes, AVG 7 appears to have some flaws. nothing catastrophic.
> biggest problem I have seen is in the AUTO detect of POP settings.
> when the system hangs during TRYING TO CONNECT. simply kill it and
> restart the operation, usually completes on the 2nd try with no
> problems.
>
> since there are 3 different components of AVG7,it is necessary to
> allow all 3 in your firewall. failing to do so, can cause problems.
>
> seems they rushed this version out for XP compatibility.
>
> mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com

AVG 6 worked fine for me on WinXP, WinXP SP1 and WinXP SP2. Of course I
have email scanning turned off and the email scanner plugin disabled.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/
!