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October 14, 2006 4:49:39 PM

I Plan on overclocking one of the following processors, but on newegg, i discovered that Xeon has a 1.86Ghz Conroe with 4MB Cache for 200$, so would that be worth it over a E6300? Or are Xeons just good for file sering?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

Both are LGA-775

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October 14, 2006 5:29:49 PM

Well I stand corrected.
October 14, 2006 5:31:16 PM

Great find, OP.

I think we have a winner here. Screw you, E6300, Xeon 3040, here I come. Twice the cache for $20 more, you can't go wrong here.

http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL9...
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1108460
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&t...
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&t...

OP: you need to rename the topic of the thread to something more dazzling... like "Xeon 3040 is the new Opteron 165"
October 14, 2006 5:40:00 PM

Any actual benches or reviews yet?
October 14, 2006 5:49:15 PM

You can also find the Xeon 3060 on Newegg. On paper it's identical to the E6600. It's $13 more, but has passed the quality control for Intel to deem it reliable enough to use in a server. Might be a good bet for overclockers who want better quality, or for those "always on" machines.

But yes, this is all very comparable to the S939 Optys that upset Athlon X2s several months back.
October 14, 2006 5:52:25 PM

Hmmm, this peaks my interest. Is there an equivalent of the x6800?
If i could run it as hard as I do my Extreme....
October 14, 2006 5:57:28 PM

I doubt it, why would Intel release an Overclockers' Dream Chip for servers :-D
October 14, 2006 6:00:45 PM

You never know with those crafty bastards at Intel. I'm surprised that Wusy or Jack haven't reported this yet.
To the OP... thanks for the find. I'm sorry I gave you wrong information, but this find is definetly worthy of going up on the blog... :trophy:
October 14, 2006 6:02:08 PM

Can i have a cookie for finding a great deal :D . But, will this work with a Mobo that supports core 2 duo, thanks!
October 14, 2006 6:04:12 PM

Looks like any old 975X board will support the Xeons. Not sure about the 965P yet.

Note: The P5W DH is the only board proven to support the Xeon 3x series
October 14, 2006 6:07:26 PM

Umm, I emailed Intel, and im waiting for a response.
October 14, 2006 6:09:06 PM

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Hmmm, this peaks my interest. Is there an equivalent of the x6800?
If i could run it as hard as I do my Extreme....


Sorry DaSickNinja, no X6800 equivalent. The only Conroe Xeons to be released are the 3040, 3050, 3060, and 3070; equivalent to the E6300, E6400, E6600, and E6700, respectively. No doubt any one of these could be OC'ed to X6800 performance though.
October 14, 2006 6:09:19 PM

I'm terribly tempted to fork over money for a Xe3040 and a P5B Deluxe to see if they work... instead of waiting for the E4300 and RD600.
October 14, 2006 6:11:41 PM

Ok, i accept paypal at xxcartmanxx@gmail.com . No pressure....NOT GIMME MONEYZ jk. This chip will put E6400's out of business lol.
October 14, 2006 6:13:25 PM

I'm forking over the money to get one right now....
October 14, 2006 6:13:57 PM

Haha, whats your motherboard chipset Ninja? Dont sell these out, i want one too.
October 14, 2006 6:14:25 PM

Whaat? You already have a X6800... *whine*
October 14, 2006 6:16:12 PM

evilr00t your system needs an upgrade according to your sig haha.
October 14, 2006 6:18:10 PM

I got other more powerful rigs, but I do use the sig rig a bit. Uh, for web browsing (It's actually not terrible, if I turn off JavaScript / Java / Flash / Animated GIFs)
October 14, 2006 6:19:15 PM

Intel will also release Kentsfield Xeons in early 2007. Interestingly enough, both this and the Conroe Xeons do not support dual CPUs (two socketed processors, not dual core, quad core, etc.) unlike previous Xeons.

It seems to be a marketing strategy of Intel to release the original processor, then release the Xeon flavor in a couple of months to create more demand.

Admit it Intel, they're repackaged Core 2's, we won't hold it against you :p  .
October 14, 2006 6:22:34 PM

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Haha, whats your motherboard chipset Ninja? Dont sell these out, i want one too.

I've got ASUS P5B Deluxe with the P965. Don't worry I'll leave some for you...maybe...
October 14, 2006 6:24:24 PM

They also enabled the other 2mb of cache :D 
October 14, 2006 6:26:20 PM

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Haha, whats your motherboard chipset Ninja? Dont sell these out, i want one too.

I've got ASUS P5B Deluxe with the P965. Don't worry I'll leave some for you...maybe... Its P965 like my mobo, tell me how it works out, thanks!
October 14, 2006 6:26:39 PM

This might kick 4x4's ass...
EDIT:
I just purchased it!!!I got the Xeon 3060 2.4GHz.
October 14, 2006 6:26:47 PM

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They also enabled the other 2mb of cache

No... they're giving us real Conroe cores.

Allendale is a different core than Conroe, it actually has 2MB of cache on the die (not 4MB with half disabled). That's why Allendale can hit higher clocks.
October 14, 2006 6:27:27 PM

Wait, what are you going to do with your extra proc?
I'm up for your X6800 :-D
October 14, 2006 6:32:23 PM

Ooh, big discussion, put it in for overnight shipping!
October 14, 2006 6:33:07 PM

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Wait, what are you going to do with your extra proc?
I'm up for your X6800 :-D

Not an extra processor cause I got this with it:

ASUS P5B Deluxe/WiFi-AP Socket T (LGA 775) Intel P965
XFX GeForce 7950 GX2
CORSAIR XMS2 2GB DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
WD Raptor 150GB 10,000RPM SATA x2
Seagate Barracuda 320GB 7200RPM SATA x2
VIGOR GAMING Monsoon II CLT-M2I TEC Peliter
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic 7.1
OCZ GameXStream 700W PSU Active PFC SLI
Thermaltake Tsunami ATX Case
SAMSUNG Black 18X DVD+R x2

Boy this is going to kick ass. It's just about identical with my X6800 system..
October 14, 2006 6:35:37 PM

Ninja....Where do you live? Im going to rob you...
October 14, 2006 6:36:13 PM

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This might kick 4x4's ass...
EDIT:
I just purchased it!!!I got the Xeon 3060 2.4GHz.


Congrats :trophy: . But you've just obligated yourself to post benchies, even if that means purchasing hundreds of dollars worth of games and applications to run that CPU through its paces :twisted: .
October 14, 2006 6:38:17 PM

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Intel will also release Kentsfield Xeons in early 2007. Interestingly enough, both this and the Conroe Xeons do not support dual CPUs (two socketed processors, not dual core, quad core, etc.) unlike previous Xeons.

It seems to be a marketing strategy of Intel to release the original processor, then release the Xeon flavor in a couple of months to create more demand.

Admit it Intel, they're repackaged Core 2's, we won't hold it against you :p  .


Only the 3000 series (Entry Level) do not support dual sockets. The 5000 and 7000 series do.

For more info:
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/xeon/index.htm#5000
October 14, 2006 6:38:43 PM

Not a problem... I get the feeling that it'll be pretty much just below thatof my X6800.




I pwn you all...
October 14, 2006 6:39:36 PM

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Ninja....Where do you live? Im going to rob you...


Realize he took out a second mortgage... :lol: 
October 14, 2006 6:41:23 PM

Wait, why not the 3040? That's the one everyone's excited about... the E6300, except with double the cache...

DaSick: Unlike you, I'm a cheap bastard :-D
October 14, 2006 6:43:24 PM

Cause this one is the equivalent of the E6600. The monstrous E6600. The iPWN 30Gb of Processors.
October 14, 2006 6:44:05 PM

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Only the 3000 series (Entry Level) do not support dual sockets. The 5000 and 7000 series do.

For more info:
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/xeon/index.htm#5000


Realize those aren't Conroe based, they're Woodcrest, and use Socket 771, not LGA 775. Those are the big time server CPUs, not for us desktop types.
October 14, 2006 6:46:59 PM

Hmm, you know who to call if you ever need that 7950GX2 rid of, when DX-10 comes out. ;) 
October 14, 2006 6:47:41 PM

Quote:
Wait, why not the 3040? That's the one everyone's excited about... the E6300, except with double the cache...

DaSick: Unlike you, I'm a cheap bastard :-D


We know, the rig in your sig speaks for itself :wink: .
October 14, 2006 6:48:10 PM

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Only the 3000 series (Entry Level) do not support dual sockets. The 5000 and 7000 series do.

For more info:
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/xeon/index.htm#5000


Realize those aren't Conroe based, they're Woodcrest, and use Socket 771, not LGA 775. Those are the big time server CPUs, not for us desktop types. No, theyre Conroe, and LGA-775/T.
October 14, 2006 6:50:40 PM

Nope they are the 771 version. Look at the technical documents. Not for us.
October 14, 2006 6:54:43 PM

I was just responding that there are dual socket ones available.

The 3000 series looks to be just hand-picked conroes. Interestingly though, if you go with the 3000 or 3010 mobo chipset (expensive), they are enabling Hyper-Threading.
October 14, 2006 6:55:30 PM

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Only the 3000 series (Entry Level) do not support dual sockets. The 5000 and 7000 series do.

For more info:
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/xeon/index.htm#5000


Realize those aren't Conroe based, they're Woodcrest, and use Socket 771, not LGA 775. Those are the big time server CPUs, not for us desktop types. No, theyre Conroe, and LGA-775/T.

Click the link for "product brief" on 5000 or 7000 series. Scroll down to the data table. It clearly states LGA 771 on the right column.

Okay exit2dos. I was just commenting that the 3000 series specifically is repackaged Core 2. I understand higher end ones support dualing.
October 14, 2006 6:56:04 PM

The 3000 series is 775. Right?
October 14, 2006 6:59:01 PM

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The 3000 series is 775. Right?


Yes. DaSickNinja is going to have to let us know if it works on a 965 chipset however.
October 14, 2006 6:59:21 PM

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Hmm, you know who to call if you ever need that 7950GX2 rid of, when DX-10 comes out. ;) 

have you seen the proposed specs for th g80 series ?96 and 128 pixel pipelines....talk about making a guy stupid with drool and anticipation 8O :p  It also makes people go on welfare lol.
October 14, 2006 7:00:03 PM

He'll be the first too... kudos to DaSick for forking over the money first; if it works, I'll bite the bullet too. Kinda need an upgrade anyway.

EDIT: Grammar... screw putting rigs here, I'm putting them on my website.
October 14, 2006 7:00:17 PM

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The 3000 series is 775. Right?


Yes, but the 5000/5100 and 7000/7100 series are NOT.
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