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One of the reasons I bought a X1900XT, was because of its capability of doing antialiasing and HDR at the same time. But I have doubts about how this option is enabled in several games. Do I need a patch for every game to enable HDR+AA, or just with the standard ati drivers, I can play every game with this feature. If I need a patch do you know where I could find those patches in order to enable that capability?

A game that I will interested in using that capability is Serious Sam 2 which Im currently playing.


Thanx.

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The only title I know at the moment requiring a patch for HDR+AA is Oblivion, and it requires the "Chuck Patch". Other titles should require nothing more than enabling antialiasing in the ATI control panel.

Reply to Heyyou27

I believe that for each game to run HDR+AA, there will be some additional code path, either through drivers or a game patch.

Oblivion, has a driver patch from ATi, while FarCry uses a 1.4beta patch to enable HDR+AA.

This should be the trend in the game industry, as there isn't support on both fields, aka ATi and Nvidia. It's a nice to have, not a standard (yet). From this, it will depend either on ATI CAT crew, or the game publisher.

BUT, few games pull HDr off as well as Oblivion, and anything else to my view, is trivial or not worth the effort with HDr and AA running. Besides, with a X1900 card you are most likely playing at 1280x1024 which sort of off sets the AA requirement.

But that's my view.

Reply to Vokofpolisiekar

http://forumz.tomshardware.com/har [...] 01#1275301

SS2 should allow you to enable both options in the menu without any patching.

Reply to TheGreatGrapeApe

does serious sam 2 have HDR?!?
i thought it was quite old...

Reply to burn-e86

You're confusing SS:Second Encounter with SS2.

SS2 is recent (last year);

http://www.croteam.com/

Reply to TheGreatGrapeApe

Well your telling me, some games support this Feature from the menu, other needs special patching!, so before I look foward using this feature on any game I need to search a bit to see If I need any special patch. It would be nice to have a Database to make our lifes easier.

Thanx everyone. :lol:

Reply to paztelu

No game supports HDR AND AA from the menu. the closest thing is an ATI Radion X1900 but as it has been stated you need a patch. MAYBE some games might support it but you MUST update your drivers

Reply to burn-e86

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No game supports HDR AND AA from the menu.



Uhhh, Half life 2?

Reply to undeniable

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No game supports HDR AND AA from the menu.



What are you basing that on?

AOE3 would REQUIRE you to enable it in menu for the GF7 series because it does a portion in software on the host CPU, so obviously it's built into the game not a patch. HL2 and SS2 are all mentioned options within the game in reviews even.

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the closest thing is an ATI Radion X1900 but as it has been stated you need a patch. MAYBE some games might support it but you MUST update your drivers



Oblivion like Splinter Cell are exceptions to the general rules of game making in that the features were specifically removed/disabled most people leave the option open for future hardware and leave it greyed out til it can be exploited.

Reply to TheGreatGrapeApe

GF7 range isnt capible of having both, its a technical limitation of the Nvidia series
I prob. should'nt have said No Game....my bad i've been out of the loop for a while.
HL2 does not fully implement AA and HDR, where i'm basing this off? to be honest i cant remember where, but i do remember alot of conversations a while ago about HDR, AA and Nvidia

Reply to burn-e86

I play HL2: Lost Coast with HDR+AA and I dont need to touch any of the catalyist options, i would just need to enable both of them in the game

btw: i get great fps too :)

Reply to sjg0

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GF7 range isnt capible of having both, its a technical limitation of the Nvidia series
I prob. should'nt have said No Game....my bad i've been out of the loop for a while.
HL2 does not fully implement AA and HDR, where i'm basing this off? to be honest i cant remember where, but i do remember alot of conversations a while ago about HDR, AA and Nvidia



If you read the link it explains everything, including the misconceptions about HL2 HDR.

And the GF7 can do HDR+AA, but just not FP16 HDR+AA throughout in hardware.

AgesOfEmpires3 does host (CPU/software) based AA and then does FP16 HDR in hardware, so with the GF7 you can achieve FP16HDR+AA, but it's a more labrious process than HDR+AA in a game like Oblivion. This is why turning on AA in AOE3 disables the Catalyst AA on ATi hardware, and vice versa.

The GF7 can also do FP16HDR + interger AA by passing through the ROPs twice, but this would be a slower process, and likely not worth the effort to force in drivers. It's not F16 throughout, but I doubt you'd notice the difference without analyzing a screenshot in more detail than you would in games. It's important to note it for design purposes, but game wise likely wouldn't matter much other than the performance impact.

Reply to TheGreatGrapeApe

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with a X1900 card you are most likely playing at 1280x1024 which sort of off sets the AA requirement.

But that's my view.



Why would you be playing in 1280x1024? not sure which game need a patch so far i havent come acrost that. i play HL2 and BF2 at 1920x1200 with the detail settings maxed out. HL2 i have HDR set to all or whatever the option is and AA set to i think 8x and AF set to 16x not sure i would have to look. If you know what the max is for HL2 thats what i have it set on ;)

Reply to EnFoRceR22

can we once and for all leave the source method of doing HDR alone. i am sick of people stating that it is not ture HDR. as long as it does the same effects then it is HDR. HDR is only a lighting effect when all is said and done so it is the end result not the method which is important. at least to me it is.

Reply to strangestranger

I got sick of saying the end result is what matters becuase people confuse that statement with the end justifys the means or whatever bs. I agree though the end result is all that matters.

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