palm or pocket pc

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Although I have never owned a Palm brand product, I have always viewed the
Pocket PC as being better. Several reasons for this are the fact that it is
more similar to Windows, making it easier to learn. I also like it better
because since Palm is less compatible when it comes to hardware, I prefer to
support Pocket PC. And as to your comment about Outlook, even though I do
not own or use Microsoft Outlook, it is great for synchronizing when using
Pocket PC (in fact, it is pretty much required for synchronizing the
Calendar and Contacts). The Calendar and Contacts features of Pocket PC, if
I understand correctly, are actually based on the code used to write
Outlook, so if you are an Outlook user, you would definitely prefer the
Pocket PC, and I recommend it as well. Good luck!
--
Nathan Sokalski
njsokalski@hotmail.com
www.nathansokalski.com

"Tim" <adslk4at@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
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> open ended question i know, but any feedback from people who have swapped.
>
> i have used palm since year dot, but use outlook mainly, so assume it will
> sync better.
>
>
> Thanks Tim
>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.pocketpc (More info?)

"Tim" <adslk4at@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
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| open ended question i know, but any feedback from people who have
swapped.
|
| i have used palm since year dot, but use outlook mainly, so assume it
will
| sync better.
|
|
| Thanks Tim
|
|

Since this is a PPC group you'll probably get more votes for the ppc,
ask in a palm group too.

Is the only thing you want improved syching? Nothing else?
Aren't there improved third party Palm synch programs? Even if you have
to pay for such a program it will be far less expensive than a ppc, and
then there is the cost of third party apps you want.

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Nathan Sokalski wrote:
> Although I have never owned a Palm brand product, I have always viewed the
> Pocket PC as being better. Several reasons for this are the fact that it is
> more similar to Windows, making it easier to learn. I also like it better
> because since Palm is less compatible when it comes to hardware, I prefer to
> support Pocket PC. And as to your comment about Outlook, even though I do
> not own or use Microsoft Outlook, it is great for synchronizing when using
> Pocket PC (in fact, it is pretty much required for synchronizing the
> Calendar and Contacts). The Calendar and Contacts features of Pocket PC, if
> I understand correctly, are actually based on the code used to write
> Outlook, so if you are an Outlook user, you would definitely prefer the
> Pocket PC, and I recommend it as well. Good luck!

I disagree. Windows Mobile shares hardly any resemblance to Windows on
the desktop, only the same naming conventions and icons. Everything
you'd expect - the task bar, the recycle bin, the desktop and my
computer are not present. That's probably for the best, but I don't feel
this makes it any easier for someone new to PDAs. If you've used a Palm
before, then you should be OK but it might take some getting used to
(any other converters still have trouble typing a 'V' in block
recogniser? it was so much easier on a Palm, just a backwards 'U'!)

The Palm OS is a lot easier to use than Windows Mobile. It's faster, and
gets to the point. It does the simple job of a PDA a lot better than
Windows Mobile. However, the reason I choose Windows Mobile over Palm is
because its more powerful, and has many more advanced features and
generally the devices have better hardware. If you want more than the
simple features then I'd say a Windows based PDA is the best option, for
media, Internet, memory card expansion, games and accessories.

--
Marc
See http://www.imarc.co.uk/ for contact details.

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.pocketpc (More info?)

I've had palms from the Palm IIIx to the V, a Sony Clie, a tungsten T,
and 2 ppcs, an Ipaq 3600 series and now a 2215.

Here's my take on it...a lot of it is kind of "what are you after" sort
of thinking...

1. Activesync is more buggy than Hotsync. (Palm wins)
2. Syncing with MS programs (i.e., pocket word, excel, outlook): PPC
wins, as you don't *have* to have 3rd party workarounds.
3. Stability: tossup. For the most part, Palm wins, but PPC's are
better than they used to be.
4. Softare: a lot more for the Palm
5. Multimedia: PPC wins, but Palm has done a lot of catching up.
6. Expansion options: PPC wins hands-down. Only one company had CF
card usage (Handera) and it was primitive; now there are none that I am
aware of.
7. Different brands: PPC wins. Only one mfg'r makes Palms
now...Palmone.
8. Reliability: Palm (never had a spntaneous hard reset with a
palm).
9. Removable/replaceable batteries: PPC. No palm has that anymore
(correct me if I'm missing something).
10. Ease of use: tossup. In many ways the Palm is easier, but less
bells and whistles.
11. Transferring native files and being able to work with them: PPC
wins hands down.
12. Support for other OS's (I dual boot linux and windows): Palm has
the upper hand.

Now, you may ask why I chose the PPC over the palm for my current one.


1. I use Outlook, so I don't have to have 3rd parties with an Ipaq.
2. I require CF card usage (modem, WiFi), and PalmOne doesn't make one
that uses CF.
3. Over a period of years, Palm QC fell apart. The Tungsten series
was JUNK. Digitizer issues, etc. I put the last one under my truck
tire (not joking...I really did it). And now, there are no other
venders to turn to.
4. I wanted to be able to replace the battery when a) I want to or b)
the rechargeable batt goes bad.
5. Wanted to be able to work natively with Word and Excel, w/o going
through a 3rd party conversion.
6. Software is a little more powerful, and I think prettier.

In the end, it was kind of a hard choice to come back to a PPC, but now
I'm pleased that I did. The biggest kicker was the CF card support in
the 2215 and the lack of vendor choice with a Palm, considering that
Palm is absolute JUNK. Never thought I'd say that, but it's true.
They are garbage nowadays.

Not looking for flames, folks, on either side. Just calling the cards
based on my experience. In the end, it's always going to come down to
"what are you looking for and what are your prefs?".

HTH,
Dan

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Hi Tim,

That's a loaded question in this forum ;-)

I switched over from Palm. No real reason other than I wanted a nice color
unit that syncs with Outlook, Excel, and Word.

My progression was Newton, Palm III, Palm IIIx, Palm m515, and now a Dell
Axim (only a month old). I even considered the Rex at one point.

I wanted multiple ways to connect (i.e. bluetooth, WLAN, Modem)

I've never been a believer in X is better than Y. It all depends on the user
and the user's requirements, likes, and dislikes.

Everything I require in a PDA can be done elegantly with either platform,
syncing with my Mac or my Windows machine.

Having said that, the PPC did all of that right out of the box. My Palm
never did that all that out of the box.

Good luck, and enjoy the endeavor!

Walt

"Tim" <adslk4at@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:4202faa9@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> open ended question i know, but any feedback from people who have swapped.
>
> i have used palm since year dot, but use outlook mainly, so assume it will
> sync better.
>
>
> Thanks Tim
>

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Man, that's too bad. They made some really awesome Palm devices. I
especially liked the ones with the swivel screen.

Walt

"alan smith" <alan@REMOVEmral.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> They still sell in the far east, but abandoned the other markets due to
> poor sales
>
> "Walt Basil" <see_signature@for_address.com> wrote in message
> newsGZOMgxCFHA.1936@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> | What happened to Sony? Did they quit making Palm OS devices?
> |
> | "Geocritter" <geocritter@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> | news:1107554367.111741.159790@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> | > 3. Over a period of years, Palm QC fell apart. The Tungsten
> series
> | > was JUNK. Digitizer issues, etc. I put the last one under my
> truck
> | > tire (not joking...I really did it). And now, there are no other
> | > venders to turn to.
> |
> |
>
>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.pocketpc (More info?)

1) The nicest options of the PPC is your ability to move MP3 files,
movies, HTML, etc. directly on a storage card without having to
convert them.

2) On the Sync issue, I have used a Palm and a PPC, and have had more
issues with ActiveSync than HotSync.

3) IMHO. The PPC have surpassed the Palm in ease of use, quality,
and price/performance. I guess I would consider a Palm only if I
need to run a Palm specific program




On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 15:31:30 +1100, "Tim" <adslk4at@tpg.com.au> wrote:

>open ended question i know, but any feedback from people who have swapped.
>
>i have used palm since year dot, but use outlook mainly, so assume it will
>sync better.
>
>
>Thanks Tim
>