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chrone   10-18-2006 at 08:13:51 PM

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/d [...] 25148.html

suddenly i feel my cpu is old already. this technology runs so fast, damn it. :(

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Julian33   10-18-2006 at 08:34:41 PM
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To be fair though, these arn't due out till Q3, it's a fairly incremental increase, the increased FSB speed will do nothing for performance.

I'd have expected Intel to have a higher clocked dual core CPU out by then, considering that AMD may well have it's Antares chips at similar clock speeds at that point.

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chrone   10-18-2006 at 08:44:51 PM
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To be fair though, these arn't due out till Q3, it's a fairly incremental increase, the increased FSB speed will do nothing for performance.



agree, since amd already hit the 2000mhz and be outperformed by the core microarchitecture which only runs at 1066mhz.

but i also read some news (forgot the link) that in the next core 2 duo, there will be around 50 new instruction on sse4. perhaps the boost will be much experienced in the multimedia section.

just my opinion though.. :roll:

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nobly   10-18-2006 at 08:45:51 PM
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The code-named Bearlake-X chipset that will replace the Intel 975X from the top in the Q3 2007 will support PCI Express 2.0 bus with higher – 5.0GHz – clock-speed compared to current 2.5GHz, two PCI Express x16 lanes, dual-channel PC2-6400 (DDR2 800MHz) and PC3-10600 (DDR3 1333MHz) memory.



DDR3 memory? That's going to be really expensive...
It'll have to wait til Q3 '07 since DDR3 sounds like its coming out in Q2 '07. Looking at the price of DD2, I'm not that excited to go buy even more expensive memory.. :?

http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/09/25/ [...] r3_memory/

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icbluscrn   10-18-2006 at 08:58:54 PM
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DDR3 wont be $$$$$ at first , Just like DDD2 was cheap until conroe was released then it just went through the roof as demand got high. I got 2gigs of 800mhz for $200 (regular price) at frys 4months ago now its at $300 .
could you compare it to video card memory Gddr2 over Gddr3 there is not a premium is there.?

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3Ball   10-18-2006 at 09:09:51 PM
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yea those things look sick, I will probably get a quad when it comes out, just not sure though! My AMD is still goin to strong as of now...working on the settings for 2.6ghz right now! 8)

Best,

3Ball

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Heyyou27   10-18-2006 at 09:28:33 PM
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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/d [...] 25148.html

suddenly i feel my cpu is old already. this technology runs so fast, damn it. :(

With Kentsfield due out by the end of the year, this new Conroe sounds like a foolish purchase.

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chrone   10-18-2006 at 09:33:07 PM
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i just turned into a boy who wants the latest and best affordable technology, am i an enthusiast yet? i just cannot match the pace and cost of it. :(

i wonder what you all do for a living and still being sharped on the edge of computer technology?

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chrone   10-18-2006 at 09:49:02 PM
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With Kentsfield due out by the end of the year, this new Conroe sounds like a foolish purchase.



http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/10/18/intel_quad_core/

it's reported there and way too expensive compared to the mainstream conroe processors.

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3Ball   10-18-2006 at 10:06:09 PM
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I am a college student who doesnt work, and just gets new stuff from his rents for birthdays/xmas or makes up an excuse is to how it will help with school. Or I sell my stuff on ebay and just live poor for a month or so to buy something new. That is how I get new stuff, but I havent gotten anything in a while!

Best,

3Ball

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r0ck   10-18-2006 at 10:25:09 PM
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I can't find a link, but I remember seeing somewhere that DDR3 has a 60% premium..

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Frozen_Fallout   10-18-2006 at 10:26:33 PM
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i just turned into a boy who wants the latest and best affordable technology, am i an enthusiast yet? i just cannot match the pace and cost of it. :(

i wonder what you all do for a living and still being sharped on the edge of computer technology?



Poor and working class I just drool all over my computer while I look at the new things that come out year after year. Right now I have to build a new computer but with a baby now I probly wont be able to build the new pc for a couple more months but that will probly allow me to get a Direct X 10 compatible video card :P. I know exactly how you feel though these guys who upgrade once a month are crazy! :P

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nobly   10-18-2006 at 10:27:57 PM
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DDR3 wont be $$$$$ at first , Just like DDD2 was cheap until conroe was released then it just went through the roof as demand got high. I got 2gigs of 800mhz for $200 (regular price) at frys 4months ago now its at $300 .
could you compare it to video card memory Gddr2 over Gddr3 there is not a premium is there.?


Yeah but that's the point, with the 1333mhz bus coming out, demand is going to go up. Plus it seems like they're just going to be stocking it slightly before its going to be in demand, which means limited quantities and high prices to me. Shrug... either of us could be right. Gotta love speculation :P But I hope you're right.

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Doughbuy   10-18-2006 at 10:29:04 PM
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The Bearlake chipset and 1333MHZ FSB isin't enough to warrant me to wait another year to buy. I'm still sticking to my Jan/Feb timeline to upgrade.

However, even though it seems as its only a incremental upgrade to 1333MHZ, don't forget Intel's going to start 45nm production soon, which is what these new chips might be. Thus we might see some even more amazing performance.

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icbluscrn   10-18-2006 at 10:57:15 PM
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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/d [...] 25148.html

suddenly i feel my cpu is old already. this technology runs so fast, damn it. :(

With Kentsfield due out by the end of the year, this new Conroe sounds like a foolish purchase.

Yeah well with kentsfield debuting at about $1000, it doesnt seem so foolish does it now.

well a 2.93ghz conroe is $949, A 3ghz conroe should be $$$??????? yep still seems foolish.

buy the way still waiting on the $300 duAl core fxs. LOL

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shabodah   10-18-2006 at 11:22:32 PM
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I don't know what you've heard, but a faster FSB is definately going to affect performance. However, the lower the cache amount, the more it will affect performance. You can't really compair AMD's system to Intel's properly, they have nearly opposite weaknesses.

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Frozen_Fallout   10-18-2006 at 11:31:11 PM
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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/d [...] 25148.html

suddenly i feel my cpu is old already. this technology runs so fast, damn it. :(

With Kentsfield due out by the end of the year, this new Conroe sounds like a foolish purchase.

Yeah well with kentsfield debuting at about $1000, it doesnt seem so foolish does it now.

well a 2.93ghz conroe is $949, A 3ghz conroe should be $$$??????? yep still seems foolish.

buy the way still waiting on the $300 duAl core fxs. LOL

I don't know if you piss gold you might not care about spending that kinda money.

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Dante_Jose_Cuervo   10-18-2006 at 11:37:32 PM
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This sounds a lot like a Xeon 5160... oh wait, it is! Only more expensive and it doesn't need FB-DIMMS. Lol. They should have just released it like that to begin with. I mean think about it, yeah they're making kick@$$ CPUs again but they're releasing them in an illogical order.

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theaxemaster   10-18-2006 at 11:58:40 PM
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DDR3 wont be $$$$$ at first , Just like DDD2 was cheap until conroe was released then it just went through the roof as demand got high. I got 2gigs of 800mhz for $200 (regular price) at frys 4months ago now its at $300 .
could you compare it to video card memory Gddr2 over Gddr3 there is not a premium is there.?



Actually, DDR2 was cheap until both a) Intel released the C2D and b) AMD released the AM2 socket within a week or so of each other.

Luckily for me, I bought it early and only paid 150 for 2 gigs of 800 ;)

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niz   10-19-2006 at 12:09:03 AM
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There's also 8 core cpus on the way next year sometime...

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Dante_Jose_Cuervo   10-19-2006 at 12:12:30 AM
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Yup, they're going all the way up to 80 cores. Kinda useless unless you're in the power user/enterprise market. Or if you're using a workstation for like photoshop or maya it would help a lot. For the regular desktop user, does anyone even multi-task that much?

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r0ck   10-19-2006 at 12:48:39 AM
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http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/0 [...] e_rampage/
For 2.66 1066 vs 2.66 1333, there was only 0-2 seconds difference in benches. Only in synthetics was there a 10% gain.

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Dante_Jose_Cuervo   10-19-2006 at 12:56:21 AM
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Ya, that's true. No argument there.

But still, they're essentially woodcrests. I find it kind of funny that they didn't just release a new chipset and everything to support the 1333MHz FSB. Oh well, I guess they're just giving AMD a headache. Still, the extra bandwidth isn't any good if you don't need it. I'll upgrade my woodcrests to true quad-cores when the time comes.

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darkstar782   10-19-2006 at 01:46:52 AM
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agree, since amd already hit the 2000mhz and be outperformed by the core microarchitecture which only runs at 1066mhz.



Completely NOT directly comparible clock for clock anyway.

HT is only 16 bits wide, Intel FSB is 64bits wide IIRC.

HT has less bandwidth by far than Intel FSB, but Intels FSB has to carry all the CPU->DRAM information while the AMD mArch has the memory controller on the CPU die.

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Artmic   10-19-2006 at 05:49:26 AM
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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/d [...] 25148.html

suddenly i feel my cpu is old already. this technology runs so fast, damn it. :(



INTEL has to wait till Q3 of 2007 to release a 3Ghz part? my current x6800 runs at 3.47Ghz, so until they hit 4Ghz they can shove them up their ...

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PSYCHoHoLiC   10-19-2006 at 06:45:26 AM
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Hrmm, I guess ill stick with my 3.0Ghz Core 2 duo with a 1716mhz bus :)

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turpit   10-19-2006 at 09:33:40 AM
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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/d [...] 25148.html

suddenly i feel my cpu is old already. this technology runs so fast, damn it. :(

With Kentsfield due out by the end of the year, this new Conroe sounds like a foolish purchase.

Yeah well with kentsfield debuting at about $1000, it doesnt seem so foolish does it now.


Thats right Mike. Lets all save our money and wait for 4x4!! Only $1500!!. What a savings!

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Frozen_Fallout   10-19-2006 at 04:52:28 PM
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http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/0 [...] e_rampage/
For 2.66 1066 vs 2.66 1333, there was only 0-2 seconds difference in benches. Only in synthetics was there a 10% gain.



I wonder though will having 4cpu's make the C2Q more Bus hungry?

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qcmadness   10-19-2006 at 04:56:42 PM
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http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/0 [...] e_rampage/
For 2.66 1066 vs 2.66 1333, there was only 0-2 seconds difference in benches. Only in synthetics was there a 10% gain.



I wonder though will having 4cpu's make the C2Q more Bus hungry?
No from THG's test.

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Frozen_Fallout   10-19-2006 at 05:13:52 PM
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http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/0 [...] e_rampage/
For 2.66 1066 vs 2.66 1333, there was only 0-2 seconds difference in benches. Only in synthetics was there a 10% gain.



I wonder though will having 4cpu's make the C2Q more Bus hungry?
No from THG's test.

Oops sorry didn't see that the test was done on a C2Q.

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qcmadness   10-19-2006 at 05:18:06 PM
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http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/0 [...] e_rampage/
For 2.66 1066 vs 2.66 1333, there was only 0-2 seconds difference in benches. Only in synthetics was there a 10% gain.



I wonder though will having 4cpu's make the C2Q more Bus hungry?
No from THG's test.

Oops sorry didn't see that the test was done on a C2Q.
Nevermind :wink:

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