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How the fu[i][/i]ck is it possible that the terrorist attacks on home land didn't even get a mention around this place?

Has everyone grown content with expecting this sh[i][/i]it to happen and when it does, look at it like every day news?

What the hell is going on.

What attacks, maybe the news reports are tired of talking about them?

French picked a new president. You can end your boycot of them for now.

I'm boycotting Mrs Jef until she gets that rash on her twat looked at.

Have you been scoring with hookers down near the Chicago River?

What terrorist attacks, Rise? I've only heard of the ones in the UK being thwarted.

I will say this though: those in the developed world are tending towards being tired of Islamic fundamentalism; they're tired of hearing about it; they're tired of the domestic situations in Iraq and Afghanistan; and they're tired of fanatics who are unwilling to view the world from a different perspective. Tired, tired, tired. Honestly, how much time does the average person have to devote to keeping informed -- intelligently and comprehensively -- of both domestic and international affairs? Not focking much, that's for sure.

This is not to say the masses don't care -- far from it -- but when you're working your ass off, have a family, etc, it's hardly surprising to see many people simply adapting to the notion that the shite can go down at anytime, anywhere, and that it's now a part of life.

Sad, but true.

One commentator referred to it as being apathy over here but that's not true; it's more the case that people are living the best lives they can and they don't have the time to sit around philosophizing about the "war on terror" etc.

I got off topic there a bit, but the general gist of what I'm saying is pertinent to the thread.

I'll tell you now, mate: I'm sick to death of immoderate fundamentalists -- in all their guises!

Or, as a mate of mine put it to the group in simple terms at the boozer on last Friday night: "I'm focking sick of these towel heads!"

When the average Joe starts saying things like that, you know it's for real with people. There is only so much that good people are willing to bare before they confront the inadequacies of fundamentalists and their beliefs.

They both go down there and offer two-fers...

The same marketing principles work for McDonalds with their "super-size" upgrade class.

Jef and Mrs Jef probably swing an extra $10 out of each Cub player for their efforts. Not bad, I suppose.

They'd be doing better than the toothless horrors showing their wares off behind the bull pen, that's for sure.

HTF did you not mention the attacks in the UK in this post?

Yeah, I only heard more about that late this afternoon.

What attacks is Rise talking about though?

LMAO!


Go Cubs!

Who cares? These days taking back a library book late is a terrorist offence.

I don't think that's true anymore.

Still, in some ways it's a good thing. Once the ordinary people of Iraq come to realise that their enemy is not the west, but the extremists tearing what little of a country they have left, we might start seeing some progress.

As was proved in Northern Ireland - you don't win the battle against extremist be military action. You win it by removing their popular support.

The question is - NI took 30 years to find peace. Are we willing to stay that long in Iraq?

Well, if you're including the world wars we've killed millions. Slightly different kettle of fish though.

I would rather have seen some military action, fcuk 'em. Lousy, dirty fcuking cowardly twats. [/personal rant]


Weird I can be quite understanding most of the time, those Mick twats missed my brother by inches, so I find it very difficult to forgive and let it go. Lets me understand how others can be led by hatred and other emotions though. I know it's not right but that is how I feel. I'm not anti-Mick, just anti Mick twat.

True, maybe, but the bombings have stopped. The sectarian murders have (by and large) stopped.
Is 'appeasement' really so bad when it allows ordinary innocent people to go about their lives without having to live in fear?

Or would you prefer to continue to fight an unwinnable "war" by military mean - even if it means people having to live their entire lives in a guerilla warzone.

Ideals are fine things to have, but when other people lives can be blighted by them sometimes compromise has to be an option.

So, blow enough sh it up, kill enough people and stick two fingers up at democracy and we'll put you in power. A great message to send to terrorists.

First, the Glasgow attacks. Apparently no one caught the attacks because masses of people weren't killed because the bombs didn't go off. So no one seems to care that this even happened? It was a fairly large scale attack had it worked. It wasn't thwarted at that - it happened, the bombs just didn't go off.

I have towel head neighbors. I watch them when they're out. I heard the little kid yelling the other day about having a gun. He's no more than 7.

Top that off, I fly frequently out of Detroit which has the US's largest Muslim population. A few months ago a group did a dry run on the airline I fly. That does concern me. When you stop paying attention to activities of these people, you'll soon stop watching the obvious signs. Everyone should be aware of what's going on and that we can't just say "its going to happen at some point" - at that point, we give in and accept the fact it in, instead of trying to prevent it.

Towel head?

WTF man? Get a fkking life! If you are calling your neighbors owelHeads you are one of the reasons that radicals exist.

Hate does not go one way man. I am not saying that others are not guilty of it either. It is a human trait to hate other packs.

But not even being able to tell what nationality, religion, or following your neighbors are, and just calling them "towel heads" is as bad as they are. You are hating those that are different than you are.

As for "having a gun". I remember telling my friends when I got a new toy gun when I was little. I never said "toy" when I told them. Have you seen him with the gun? Are you so paranoid that you hear a 7 year old, who has probably been watching too much of our prime time TV, say "I have a gun" and you instantly think they are going to blow up your mall?

There is a difference between keeping your eyes open and being so myiopic you only can see, incorrectly, the people you are looking directly at.

I agree, Timothy McVeigh could be right in your back yard and you would still be staring at the "towel heads".

You still have some bias, but thanks for clearing up that it was an exaggeration.

I know what you are saying, I always worry about our people becoming blind to the facts and willing to go fight whoever our leaders point at because they say they are "evil".

I am not saying any leader in paricular. But the easier it gets to say "they are the bad guys" the easier it is to just use the heat of xenophobic rage and fear to hide their own intensions.

i wondered when you would reappear. seriously STFU. you mentioned homeland in your first post. nothing happened in YOUR homeland. hell, it is only yanks who would be silly enough to use such a stupid phrase such as homeland.

these "attacks" were nothing but ametuerish attepts at an attack. hell, i wouldn't even class it as an attack. you americans may be stupid enough to worry about trivial matters such as these but i have more important things to worry about if i was bothered enough to worry about them. i would worry not about some chance of a "terrorist" attack but the definate fact that women and children will be beaten and roped most likely in their own homes. i would worry about the crime that ruins peoples lives on a daily basis, i would worry about how without any evidence police can shoot people and invade their homes and yet they cannot do anythin about known drug dealers and addicts.

i would worry about a lot of things but sure as hell as not some blown up media event such as this bout of "terrorism".

get real and worry about your own backyard and stop acting like what happnes over here involves you in the least. i know you like getting up people noses and i hate to give you the pleasure but i can't help it.

You shut the fuc[i][/i]k up ya worthless piece of shi[i][/i]t.

First, these were nothing near amateur. This run will help them figure out more for future attacks. The bombs didn't go off because the cell phones didn't work properly or explode the bombs.

Had they gone off it would have caused a lot of damage and most likely killed a lot of people.

As far as the stuff that happens in homes?
Its one thing to commit a violent crime against a single person, or people you know. Its another thing to go out trying to cause mass destruction and death to further a crazed idea.

Sorry for being concerned that a terrorist attack took place and calling out people for not mentioning it. Next time, I hope you're nearby at the next amateur attempt. Doesn't take a professional to kill people.

We live by rules. Police, at least in the US, can not enter your house without a warrant or reasonable doubt that something is going on. Police are people and they make mistakes under stress. It happens, deal with that.

As far as my backyard? I think about things outside the borders. What stops that same attack from happening in the US? Nothing. So yeah, I'm concerned because these people aren't fighting a Country, they're fighting the same fu[i][/i]cking idea you and I share.

So please, STFU yourself.

but why are you so concerned, these are not that big a deal as i said to the constant crime that is happening. terrorism has always been a part of britain and always will be. it is nothing new or important. the crimes that should be all over the front pages of the newspapers are those that affect the most people and the most often. terrorist attacks affect very few people and are very much localised affairs. having someone being robbed or murdered affects a very large number of people on a daily basis and is not localised.

now, again, why should this be important.

you misunderstand. hopefully deliberately. you see, for one you linked to the daily mail, that has about as much credability as fox news.

also, when you say a bombing affects a whole country, it doens't. people say it affects them but it doesn't.

now you mention mugging, my point was not how much that one particular even affected people but that those types of things happen all the time and affect alot more people directly than terrorism ever will.

also, why all the bother of these attacks, like i say we in britain have always been attacked, be it vikings, the riomans or other european neighbours. it is nothing new. we have had terrorism as you call it back as far as guys fawks days, they tried to blow u[- the parliament in case you didn't know.

why, with all the crime in both our countries, do these seem to merit all the fuss. is there a novelty factor or what?

a stranger blowing me up i can handle, it is human nature to attack other cultures and people. however, someone from my own community trying to dsestroy it through petty or serious crime. that matters more.

if someone from my area tried to blow up my local airport, i wouldn't be that bothered. what would bother me is that they are local and trying to destroy their community. i would not think of it as an act of terrorism, just a crime.

unfortunately policticians, "security" experts and the media, have made terrorism a joke and it is hard to take it seriously. like i say, there are far more important thgins to worry about than this. in the grand scheme of things, does this matter?