Somewhere... someone is buying one of these right now!

enforcer22

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Actualy i hate TD will never buy from them again Newegg all the way and lol at that price :D my card only cost me $250 lol hell when that card was the best card i only paid like $350 for it and mine was a made by ATI Platinum edition.
 

rodney_ws

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I bet you can't find anything on NewEgg that over-priced. TD should not even attempt to sell them at that price... anyone that buys one at that price would be an instant TD hater if they knew the actual value. To me it seems best just to cut your losses and sell it at a fair price.
 

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I dont blame them. Very few people actually stay up to date regarding CPU/GPU prices and performance. For instance, few people know what a great deal the 7900GTO (now sold out at many e-tailers) and the upcoming x1950Pro are.

When friends ask me to help them with a new build, or help them pick an upgrade part, I often feel like lol'ing when I see the part that they're suggesting.
I think most people just have a certain price range in mind (say 200$), and they go and check which cards fit the price range, then base their decision based on the half-assed mini-reviews that people post on sites like tigerdirect. So a typical buyer would easily pick say a x1600Pro (retailing for around 200$ from many vendors) over say a 7600GT or a x850xt, even though we know that these last two cards are clear winners for the same price or lower.

I personally am mostly annoyed not at the retailers/e-tailers, their job is to make as much money from each sale as possible - so you get your good deals and your rip-offs. I blame the people who post those damn mini-reviews whereas they know that they know diddly squat on the subject. Its not uncommon to see something like :

"This card runs every game on maximum resolution, its the best thing since sliced bread, it beats all the other 600$ cards out there"

posted by some excited 16 year old who just bought a x1300 for 150$ and is getting a nice boost in games from his integraded intel video ..
 

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I agree you see alot of that overlap for online retialers, I rarely trust the comments there because people are usually just commenting on their please/displeasure with their pre-conceptions. If it run CS on their crappy 1024x768 LCD with 60fps, then the X1300 or GF7300 are 'great gaming cards' for the $120 they paid, not knowing that there are many similarly priced solutions out there that would destroy them.

And rodney, yeah I doubt we'd see that on NewEgg, they're a little quicker to refresh prices, but there are some anomalies. The thing about NewEgg is that really they do a great job of putting things on sale to get them out of their warehouse, they'd rather be showing out of stock then try to be still selling old parts. It's usually smaller retailers that have half a dozen sitting around, and then still want to see if they can get a few suckers to pay 80% of MSRP.
 

redwing

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There's a sucker born every minute

I know who are buying these: people who buy Dells :lol:


You know, you're not totally off, but I cant say I agree completely.
Dell has it's use, it's possibly one of the cheapest integrators out there.

IF I had to get a computer for my parents / or someone who just wants a basic PC for browsing/whatnot, I'd take the 50-100$ price hit and buy one of their cheapo PCs instead of spending a weekend picking the optimum parts and then another couple of hours building it/installing hte OS.
Also, I'm currently typing on a dell inspiron laptop. It has a simple 1.66Ghz core duo, only 1Gig of ram and integrated video, but for work purposes it suits me just fine and was cheaper than any other similar-specced laptop I could find 6 months ago.
So I think that system builders like Dell have a place in the market (obviously, since they make a crapload of cash), you just cant expect to get good performance/value from there if you're looking for a gaming-grade pc. If they allowed overclocking in their bios, I think more people would consider dells as a base (add in your own video card, ram, etc) for a serious system.



Just my 2c
 

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You find a ton of that at e-tailers.

They have old stock, never update the price, and then you have $470 GF6800GT;

http://www.us.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=12398&vpn=299616C&manufacture=Leadtek

I've seen an $900 GF6800U, an $800 X1800XT and a $1,200 GF7800GTX-512 out there just because they don't adjust their prices.

7800GTX 512 is near-impossible to find these days; however, if provides simliar (if not better) performance as a 7900GTX.

How does a 7800GTX 512 manage to get the same performance as 7900GTX? Surely the extra pipelines and clock speed of the 7900 will mean it totally pwns the 7800?
 

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I was gona help some guy build a computer but know a TD dumdass that knows his family convinced him that its alot cheaper to buy it premade....
 

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You find a ton of that at e-tailers.

They have old stock, never update the price, and then you have $470 GF6800GT;

http://www.us.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=12398&vpn=299616C&manufacture=Leadtek

I've seen an $900 GF6800U, an $800 X1800XT and a $1,200 GF7800GTX-512 out there just because they don't adjust their prices.
Local "The Source CC by Circuit City" (totally screwed up name) has a 6800GT AGP for like $699.00.

How does a 7800GTX 512 manage to get the same performance as 7900GTX? Surely the extra pipelines and clock speed of the 7900 will mean it totally pwns the 7800?
7800GTX 512 isn't better. When it came out it was pretty rare.

7900GTX is better, because of 90nm process, and higher clock speeds, but pipelines are same.
 

rodney_ws

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http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0009B0KDM/dealtime-ce-feed-20/ref=nosim

I dug up that link to show my wife what a good deal I got. If $924 = 67% off, easy to see that $199 bundled with a free $100 HDD was a must buy. :wink:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103527

Now that should be illegal... when did an FX55 EVER sell for $2700?!?
 

rodney_ws

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You find a ton of that at e-tailers.

They have old stock, never update the price, and then you have $470 GF6800GT;

http://www.us.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=12398&vpn=299616C&manufacture=Leadtek

I've seen an $900 GF6800U, an $800 X1800XT and a $1,200 GF7800GTX-512 out there just because they don't adjust their prices.

7800GTX 512 is near-impossible to find these days; however, if provides simliar (if not better) performance as a 7900GTX.



How does a 7800GTX 512 manage to get the same performance as 7900GTX? Surely the extra pipelines and clock speed of the 7900 will mean it totally pwns the 7800?
They're both 24 pipe cards.