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Samsung Galaxy S4 Benchmark Confirms Eight Cores

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January 21, 2013 9:05:59 PM

nice to hear but honestly the market is pretty full of android phones. would like to see some ubuntu phone products
January 21, 2013 9:09:29 PM

I would like to see flagship phones with smaller screens.
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January 21, 2013 9:12:27 PM

....and has an amazing 23 minutes of battery time. Seriously, do consumers really need that many cores?
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January 21, 2013 9:13:20 PM

Waiting on Galaxy Note 3 news with its 6.3 inch screen, 8 core cpu, 1920 x 1080p screen to die for. My Note 1 is becoming old news now.
January 21, 2013 9:15:31 PM

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Other rumored features of the Galaxy S8 include an eight-core Mali-T888 GPU, 8.88-inch SuperAMOLED full HD display, at least 8 GB of RAM, a rear 8-megapixel camera and a front-facing 1.8-megapixel front facing snapper.
January 21, 2013 9:23:50 PM

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front-facing 2-megapixel front facing snapper


If you guys need an editor I'll gladly take the job.
January 21, 2013 9:26:08 PM

Anyone else think it looks like a cross between the iPhone 5 and iPad Mini?
January 21, 2013 9:26:54 PM

whiteodian....and has an amazing 23 minutes of battery time. Seriously, do consumers really need that many cores?


Not only that, but does anything actually use them? Outside of a few select markets in Pc software I don't think anything else uses 8 cores, and you won't be running that software on your android phone.

So what is the point? I can understand technology needs to advance, but how about we get our batteries advanced before the CPU (Which already had as many cores) Or maybe lower power higher performance CPU/GPUs and ram? And lower power hungry screens too, those AMOLED I'm sure are not very power efficient.

I like my phone to be capable don't get me wrong, but it seems to me instead of stuffing in more cores at the same speed but greater power needs, we need to first make a battery to power them for longer then 8 hours at full use. (Or less)

My SII suits me fine right now, but when it dies, or I need a new one, I'd like to get one that will have power to make it through the workday, preferably a lot longer then that. Maybe they let you toggle off cores or something I don't know.
January 21, 2013 9:43:34 PM

TheBigTrollnice to hear but honestly the market is pretty full of android phones. would like to see some ubuntu phone products


The developer of Ubuntu is going to have a long uphill battle against Google... Even Microsoft is performing somewhat poorly against Apple and Google despite devoting its full attention.
January 21, 2013 9:45:16 PM

whiteodian....and has an amazing 23 minutes of battery time. Seriously, do consumers really need that many cores?

People don't "need" smartphones at all, they "want" them
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This phone and everything about it falls into the "want" category
January 21, 2013 9:52:02 PM

soldier2013Waiting on Galaxy Note 3 news with its 6.3 inch screen, 8 core cpu, 1920 x 1080p screen to die for. My Note 1 is becoming old news now.

only for android that you need that kind of power...every other OSs run just fine with 2 core.
January 21, 2013 9:52:28 PM

ichigokunbakacant wait to run ultimate edition 3.5 on this hardware http://ultimateedition.info/

Errr, except that Ultimate Edition is x86 only. So you'll be waiting a VERY long time.
January 21, 2013 10:18:35 PM

IAmVortigauntAnyone else think it looks like a cross between the iPhone 5 and iPad Mini?

That "photo" is a rendering, and an old one at that. Nobody has a picture of the actual phone yet. They flashed the same rendering before the SGS3 came out, and it turned out to be totally different.
jakes69only for android that you need that kind of power...every other OSs run just fine with 2 core.

My old Nexus S disagrees with you, running JB perfectly smooth on >2 yo hardware. That goes to show that you don't NEED that kind of power.... but it's nice to have it, nonetheless.
A bit of research goes a long way...
January 21, 2013 10:29:38 PM

Actually, the SOC contains one 4-core A15 cpu and another 4-core A7 cpu whereas the A15 core is used for performance and the A7 for power savings. It is not one whole 8-core CPU.
January 21, 2013 10:50:40 PM

An article that mentions benchmarks but doesn't give any actual benchmark results. Seriously?
January 21, 2013 10:59:46 PM

To me it would seem that two 4 core cpu's would be one 8 core.
January 21, 2013 11:15:10 PM

Anybody notice the two camera` on the back side of the phone?
3D picture taking by the looks of it also.
January 21, 2013 11:15:11 PM

with the processing power behind this phone I would have expected them to push the resolution above "fullHD"
January 21, 2013 11:49:49 PM

back_by_demandPeople don't "need" smartphones at all, they "want" them...This phone and everything about it falls into the "want" category

I finally got my first smart phone in December after years of putting it off, and it makes my world so much better of a place! It replaces my laptop, my work laptop, gps, mp3 player, kindle, camera, video camera, and phone all in one nice tiny capable package. I still have a house cluttered with all of these devices, but if I find I do not use them in the next few months then I am going to sell them off, or find good homes for them among my friends.
And for running a business where social media and email is such a huge part of your work? You absolutely need a smart phone! I work at a nonprofit, and where I use to have serious problems struggling with communication and organization, and now when people need me (or I need them) the lines of communication are open because I have a dozen ways to get hold of just about anyone on my team.

All that said; if you are not running a business... well, then it is just really really really nice to have, and not such a necessity.
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January 21, 2013 11:53:44 PM

An article that mentions benchmarks but doesn't give any actual benchmark results. Seriously?

+1
January 21, 2013 11:59:14 PM

so what software uses 8 cores?
I mean seriously! I have an i7 in my PC and there are very few times that I actually have a load on all 8 cores, and typically it is only on 2-4 of them. The reason? Most software is not complicated enough to require more than 4 cores. In fact, most software uses a grand 1 core because oporations typically need to be done in order, so you can only do things 1 at a time.
Multi-tasking perhaps? Well, as previously stated, on my PC, where I multitask all of the time, I am not normally using more than 4 cores... if I am running that kind of load on my phone then there is something seriously wrong.
big.LITTLE perhaps? Well, maybe, but I thought the way that worked it would still only show up as a quad core device, and just switch between the little and the big cores depending on workload. That is the only practical workload I can think of for anything more than a quad core on a phone... and even then I think that nVidia's approach of have a single little core for small workloads, and 4 larger cores for big workloads seems like more of a better solution for phones.
January 22, 2013 12:37:34 AM

Majority of PCs don't even use 8 cores, let alone mobile phones... This is completely useless.

Now go ahead, vote my comment down for telling the truth, you know you want to.
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January 22, 2013 12:44:53 AM

Everybody here seems rather confused about this design, it has been stated time and time again that this SoC uses four pairs of one powerful A15 core and one efficient A7 core. Each pair can only run the A7 or A15 core at one time. No more than four cores are ever in use at one time.

For all the people claiming it will have terrible battery life or that no one needs 8 cores you are missing the point of the design. This SoC will have as much power as all the other quadcore A15 designs like Tegra 4 while having much better battery life under most situations. It offers the best of both worlds.
January 22, 2013 12:50:08 AM

whiteodian....and has an amazing 23 minutes of battery time. Seriously, do consumers really need that many cores?


Probably will increase battery life. Going from a dual core to a quad core made a tremendous difference in web browsing. My Xoom and Bionic seem like slugs after playing with my wife's note II. This will probably be my next phone if it comes to Verizon.
January 22, 2013 12:53:28 AM

U dont need 2/4/6/8 cores for only one app or software at most of the time, what makes that better is the multitasking. We cant compares a false multitask SO like iOS/WP with a pure multitask Android or Windows 8/RT, if 2 cores is enough to run 1 or 2 apps open the same can not be said about running multiple background and active apps in Android.

With my single Cortex A8 1ghz and 512mb ram Android I'm can run Facebook app, browser, multichat IM service app, hotmail app, k9 app in background and active while playing a game.
The main difference is with a 4 core when I "alt tab" between apps that would be a lot faster, and in that case when I use the main Corte A15 cores for the game and the 4 Cortex A7 for the background apps with less CPU occupation.
January 22, 2013 1:04:57 AM

I'm going to love having to keep ice on this thing to keep it form overheating. a 5 inch AMOLED screen and 8 cores? That's bound to draw some mad battery life at one time, and thus, more heat.
January 22, 2013 1:28:02 AM

shikamaru31789If you guys need an editor I'll gladly take the job.


Even the editors are now afraid of zak islam
January 22, 2013 1:59:09 AM

man with those specs it needs real buttons for a real gaming like bf3 and cod
January 22, 2013 2:29:29 AM

adgjlsfhkTo me it would seem that two 4 core cpu's would be one 8 core.


They are not used at the same time to run one app. See ARM's reference big.LITTLE technology:

www.arm.com/files/downloads/big.LITTLE_Final.pdf

1.8 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A15 and 1.2 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A7 (ARM big.LITTLE)

Ab0rt0Everybody here seems rather confused about this design, it has been stated time and time again that this SoC uses four pairs of one powerful A15 core and one efficient A7 core. Each pair can only run the A7 or A15 core at one time.


Anandtech says otherwise unless they are lying or plainly uninformed: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6602/samsung-announces-ex...

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This new SoC combines four ARM Cortex A15s and four ARM Cortex A7s, which is pretty much ARM's exact big.LITTLE reference design designed to enable either context hotplugging between the lower power, lower performance A7s and the higher power, higher performance A15s.


Also:

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Exynos 5 Octa: 1.8 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A15 and 1.2 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A7 (ARM big.LITTLE)


You might be the one confused.
January 22, 2013 3:44:56 AM

soldier2013Waiting on Galaxy Note 3 news with its 6.3 inch screen, 8 core cpu, 1920 x 1080p screen to die for. My Note 1 is becoming old news now.

What about after that then? Are you gonna get the Note 4 with a 7" screen size? Just save yourself the time and get a tablet now instead of getting incremental upgrade sizes and say "your used to the new size"
January 22, 2013 3:58:09 AM

Cores? We don't need no stinking cores!
January 22, 2013 4:24:59 AM

I hope it has SuperAMOLED+, it would be a shame to mess up such a nice phone with a pentile display.
January 22, 2013 6:54:45 AM

steamroller16I would like to see flagship phones with smaller screens.

That would be called an iPhone. Some of us aren't into small screens.
January 22, 2013 8:11:58 AM

This might be useless for now , but it opens roads to future mobile technology. I mean i would gladly buy a phone that i can install Premiere Pro on it, go somewhere connect it to a wifi TV and start editing something, is like your own mini workstation in a pocket. Of course S4 would probably be too weak for a full version of premiere but the future is out there. Remember they had only 64 KB ram computers to go to the moon , now we have 16 GB cellphones to photograph food and post on instagram.
January 22, 2013 10:55:36 AM

CaedenVso what software uses 8 cores?I mean seriously! I have an i7 in my PC and there are very few times that I actually have a load on all 8 cores, and typically it is only on 2-4 of them. The reason? Most software is not complicated enough to require more than 4 cores. In fact, most software uses a grand 1 core because oporations typically need to be done in order, so you can only do things 1 at a time.Multi-tasking perhaps? Well, as previously stated, on my PC, where I multitask all of the time, I am not normally using more than 4 cores... if I am running that kind of load on my phone then there is something seriously wrong.big.LITTLE perhaps? Well, maybe, but I thought the way that worked it would still only show up as a quad core device, and just switch between the little and the big cores depending on workload. That is the only practical workload I can think of for anything more than a quad core on a phone... and even then I think that nVidia's approach of have a single little core for small workloads, and 4 larger cores for big workloads seems like more of a better solution for phones.

It IS Big.Little. AnTuTu, i believe, only reports official specs, or since the phone isn't out, are doing that. Samsung's marketing it as 8-core, and they've wrotten that. Also, we've been telling Zak the technically impared duck for what seems like a f***ing decade now that it's a 4+4, so this story is to prove us wrong, i presume.
Ab0rt0Everybody here seems rather confused about this design, it has been stated time and time again that this SoC uses four pairs of one powerful A15 core and one efficient A7 core. Each pair can only run the A7 or A15 core at one time. No more than four cores are ever in use at one time.For all the people claiming it will have terrible battery life or that no one needs 8 cores you are missing the point of the design. This SoC will have as much power as all the other quadcore A15 designs like Tegra 4 while having much better battery life under most situations. It offers the best of both worlds.

Not most people, just Zak. I've written something similar to what you have at least 4 times in the last month.
January 22, 2013 11:57:16 AM

jakes69only for android that you need that kind of power...every other OSs run just fine with 2 core.


I am trying to think of how you could have made that post any stupider, or more incorrect, but can't.
January 22, 2013 12:01:06 PM

What I really want to see come review time, is an endurance comparison between this phone, and some other snapdragon (4 core) phone with a similiarly sized screen (if one exists). I am really curious about battery life (like most of us), but also how much having those extra cores really matters.
January 23, 2013 8:11:39 AM

JOSHSKORNThat would be called an iPhone. Some of us aren't into small screens.

yeah, but all of us can't handle a huge screen...For me the Lumia 800 (3.7") is the perfect size, sadly the new 820 is 4.3 inches.

And the iPhone is too expensive, and a lot of us aren't into iphones... :|
March 2, 2013 9:27:28 AM

1080p was the standard on phones. Id be interested. Else no.
March 2, 2013 9:29:27 AM

Duckhunt1080p was the standard on phones. Id be interested. Else no.

ahh finally 1080p. ha ha.
March 18, 2013 11:49:27 AM

Just read on www.samsungalaxys4.org that there will be different versions in Europe. some will have the octa processor but others will not.
April 8, 2013 9:37:30 PM

MOAAR COOAAARES... Until You need to charge the beast every 30 minutes...

Sent from my Nexus 7
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