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Everytime I try to launch Catalyst, nothing happens. Everytime I try to use AtiTool to overclock, the comp freezes. Help plz?

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To install CCC you have to first install MS .net.

Reply to RichPLS

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To install CCC you have to first install MS .net.


I did. And I reinstalled it again. And then again. CCC still doesn't work.

Reply to MingoDynasty

Anybody to help... heellllooooooo?

Reply to MingoDynasty

well, the overclocking is most likely causing your comp to crash, no mystery there. the ccc not opening is a bit stranger. have you used the catalyst uninstaller to wipe it then installed the whole thing again and do you have any firewall software that might be blocking it.

also what are your specs and is it the 6.9 cats.

Reply to strangestranger

Specs:
Thermaltake Armor
550W Antec Truepower
Gigabyte DS3
E6300 (overclocked to 3.01 ghz)
Corsair XMS 2gb 5-5-5-12 DDR800
ATi X1900 XTX
320gb Seagate Barracuda Perpendicular SATA 3
Some junky 15" Liquidvideo 15ms lcd

Yes I do have 6.9 Catalyst.
Anything else you need to know?
What do you mean the overclocking is making my computer crash?

Reply to MingoDynasty

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Everytime I try to launch Catalyst, nothing happens. Everytime I try to use AtiTool to overclock, the comp freezes. Help plz?

Did you try to download both the ccc and the drivers?And the OC is from the atitool.

Reply to jaydeejohn

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Everytime I try to launch Catalyst, nothing happens. Everytime I try to use AtiTool to overclock, the comp freezes. Help plz?

Did you try to download both the ccc and the drivers?And the OC is from the atitool.

Try? I DID download them. Catalyst Control Center 6.9

Reply to MingoDynasty

Ive heard that you need to have .net installed first also,otherwise Im stumped

Reply to jaydeejohn

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Ive heard that you need to have .net installed first also,otherwise Im stumped



Yep I had MS .Net 2.0 installed. I also tried installing that... and then reinstalling it again.

Reply to MingoDynasty
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in ati tool you click find max core and it goes until your video card crashes, then do the same with max mem. you then go start - all programs - ati tool - ati tool log file. which tells you the last amount it was at before crashing move the sliders to about 20 bellow that number and click new. then try games and stuff if it crashes turn it down a little more and click save, keep trying until its at the highest number without crashing

Reply to luke219
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Ive heard that you need to have .net installed first also,otherwise Im stumped


What it is MS.net and where I find for install? I have on my PC video card Saphire ATI x 1600Pro 256 Mb and after installation of Catalist I can't change nothing because he demand "Administrator right"?
I fallow step by step the instructions at the install. And much more, in setting of video I don't see video adapter tab. So, no advantage to use this video card!
After first installetion, it's works verry well.
Please help me to fix that!!!!

Reply to kafb

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in ati tool you click find max core and it goes until your video card crashes, then do the same with max mem. you then go start - all programs - ati tool - ati tool log file. which tells you the last amount it was at before crashing move the sliders to about 20 bellow that number and click new. then try games and stuff if it crashes turn it down a little more and click save, keep trying until its at the highest number without crashing



Ah I see. I woulda thought that they would try to overclock without crashing... thanks for teh tip, I'll try that :D

Reply to MingoDynasty
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so did it work?

Reply to luke219

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so did it work?



2006-10-27 16:48:31 ATITool v0.24 started.
2006-10-27 16:48:31 Detected GPU Chip: 0x0 (0), 8 Pipelines, 512 MB
2006-10-27 16:48:31 Temperature monitoring: not supported
2006-10-27 16:48:31 Could not locate ATI BIOS - assuming 27.000 Mhz Ref. clock
2006-10-27 16:52:43 Find Max Core started...
2006-10-27 16:54:48 ATITool v0.24 started.
2006-10-27 16:54:49 Detected GPU Chip: 0x0 (0), 8 Pipelines, 512 MB
2006-10-27 16:54:49 Temperature monitoring: not supported
2006-10-27 16:54:49 Could not locate ATI BIOS - assuming 27.000 Mhz Ref. clock
2006-10-27 16:54:53 Profile 'MingoDynasty' loaded.
2006-10-27 16:55:01 Application terminated.
2006-10-27 17:00:43 ATITool v0.24 started.
2006-10-27 17:00:43 Detected GPU Chip: 0x0 (0), 8 Pipelines, 512 MB
2006-10-27 17:00:43 Temperature monitoring: not supported
2006-10-27 17:00:43 Could not locate ATI BIOS - assuming 27.000 Mhz Ref. clock
2006-10-27 17:00:43 Profile 'MingoDynasty' loaded.

Copied straight from the log.txt file.
Wtf does all that mean? lolol

Reply to MingoDynasty
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for some reson it isnt telling you at what speed it crashed so just watch it and get somewhere near whee it crashes

Reply to luke219

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for some reson it isnt telling you at what speed it crashed so just watch it and get somewhere near whee it crashes



Isn't it harmful to the card to forcefully overclock to the point where it crashes?

Reply to MingoDynasty

Are you using the older seperate version of the ATI tool, or are you using the one that comes bundled with the Catalyst Drivers. The older stand alone ATI tool will not work with the newer versions of Catalyst Drivers. .

Reply to jitpublisher

since when do you get third party software bundled with ATI's CCC :?

Reply to strangestranger

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Are you using the older seperate version of the ATI tool, or are you using the one that comes bundled with the Catalyst Drivers. The older stand alone ATI tool will not work with the newer versions of Catalyst Drivers. .



I'm using ATiTool 0.24 from Techpoweredup. I didn't know there was ATiTool on the driver cd, is there?

Reply to MingoDynasty

I used to have a version of ATI tool that I used, don't remember exactly where i got it from it was a while back. Anyway, at one point when I downloaded a newer version of Catalyst (the full version) in the release notes or somewhere it stated that this version was no longer compatable with the ATI Tool, or could cause the utilty to hang, so I uninstalled it.
But the Catalyst package (again, the full package, not the smaller version that is divers only) has an overclocking utility built into it.

Reply to jitpublisher

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I used to have a version of ATI tool that I used, don't remember exactly where i got it from it was a while back. Anyway, at one point when I downloaded a newer version of Catalyst (the full version) in the release notes or somewhere it stated that this version was no longer compatable with the ATI Tool, or could cause the utilty to hang, so I uninstalled it.
But the Catalyst package (again, the full package, not the smaller version that is divers only) has an overclocking utility built into it.



Yea the full package has ATiOverdrive. But what good is it if I can't even start up CCC?

Reply to MingoDynasty
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yes it can damage the card if you do it like every day but the reason it crashes is because it reaches a point that tells it to turn off before it is damaged. ati tool is compatible with everything except for temporal anti aliasing and alternate pixel center (and those are only when its actually running the 3d thingy those functions work when you aren't actualy doing the over clock)

Reply to luke219

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yes it can damage the card if you do it like every day but the reason it crashes is because it reaches a point that tells it to turn off before it is damaged. ati tool is compatible with everything except for temporal anti aliasing and alternate pixel center (and those are only when its actually running the 3d thingy those functions work when you aren't actualy doing the over clock)



Ah I see. But what if you let ATiTool go for teh max clock and just leave it on for hours? Or minutes.

Reply to MingoDynasty
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however long it takes to crash

Reply to luke219

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however long it takes to crash



I pop up ATiTool. Then I tell it to find max clock. Then within liek 5 seconds, my monitor goes blank. Then minutes later, it's still blank.

Reply to MingoDynasty
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that means it crashed so try getting max mem then cause its already pretty much high as your gonna get

Reply to luke219

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that means it crashed so try getting max mem then cause its already pretty much high as your gonna get



I see :O
But I've had trouble (read previous posts). I did the find max clock thingy and check the log but it didn't say what the max clock was in the log and I'm afraid to keep doin the find max clock thing for fear that repetitively overclocking way too high would kill my X1900 :(

Ps. Wow you kids respond fast... sometimes.

Reply to MingoDynasty
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thats why you just watch it until it crashes and remember a number close to were it crashed

ps. ya we do

Reply to luke219

Just get a better card, the 7900GT or GTO would be good to you and you could then use coolbits to OC easily and safely with any and all versions of driver software. :twisted:

Reply to mousemonkey
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your totally not helping not everyone can just afford a new card and the x1900 is an amazing card

Reply to luke219

Yeah, I know I've just had a few beers and I'm feeling down because Valentino Rossi lost the Moto GP championship, so I thought I'd have a pop, sad excuse really but there it is.

Reply to mousemonkey
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