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Hi, John.
MVP Rick Rogers and I have already responded to your post from yesterday on
this same subject. Have you seen those yet?
> Setup
I'm with you down to here, I think. How are you running WinXP Setup? By
booting from the WinXP CD-ROM?
> Chose NTFS in unpartitioned space - would have preferred fat32 but not
> given the option by setup
You haven't told us how many partitions you have, so I'll assume you
previously had just one primary partition, Drive C:, formatted FAT32. Did
WinXP Setup create a new primary partition here? Or did PM create it?
Unless the partition is larger than 32 GB, WinXP Setup should have offered
FAT32 as an option.
Let's review the Microsoft dual-boot setup, as it has been since at least
WinNT4. The boot process always starts in the Root of the "system
partition" (the active partition on the first physical HDD), typically Drive
C:\, where it must find the "system files" for both WinXP and Win9x/ME,
including C:\boot.ini, which points to the location of each Windows
installation. Each Windows installation has its own boot folder (\Windows
by default, except for WinNT4/2K, which use \WinNT) located in its own boot
volume, which can be any primary partition or logical drive in the computer.
In your computer, you probably have Win98 in C:\Windows and will be
installing WinXP into D:\Windows. But the system files for both Win98
(io.sys and msdos.sys) and WinXP (NTLDR, NTDETECT.COM and Boot.ini) must be
in C:\, the root of the system partition.
When WinXP Setup runs, if it detects Win98 already installed, it will first
save the DOS-style boot sector as C:\bootsect.dos, then it will overwrite
the boot sector on C: with the NT version. Then it will install WinXP
wherever you choose and create C:\boot.ini with pointers to its boot folder
and to C:\, where Win98's io.sys and msdos.sys will remain.
> I have not yet upgraded drivers for my Tosh Sat Pro 6000 although I
> know there are xp-compatible drivers available on the Tosh web site.
> I didn't start out by installing these as I wasn't clear whether they
> would also work with win98 - all part of this process of not
> committing to XP until I know how it behaves.
I know nothing of Toshibas or of notebooks. Are you sure this hardware is
hefty enough for WinXP? Many computers that came with Win98 pre-installed
do not have the "horsepower" to run WinXP. Have you looked for information
about WinXP and your specific model at the Toshiba website? My
understanding is that many notebooks and other OEM computers have hidden
partitions on their hard drives, holding essential files for those
computers; does your Toshiba have such a partition, and has Partition Magic
possibly damaged that partition?
If you install WinXP drivers in WinXP, Win98 won't even know they are there.
When the computer boots into Win98, it will ignore the WinXP boot volume,
where all those WinXP drivers will be; if that is an NTFS volume, Win98
won't even see the volume. WinXP handles hardware so fundamentally
different from Win98 that any drivers that work with one version almost
certainly will not work with the other. The WinXP CD-ROM has drivers for
almost all current hardware.
> The above describes my third attempt, each with the same result,
> although the first two were attempts to install on a fat32 partition
> at the end of my HDD.
Win98 can't even SEE an NTFS volume, but WinXP mixes and matches FAT32 and
NTFS as easily as it reads from a floppy (using FAT12) or a CD (using CDFS).
RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@corridor.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
"John" <nospam@plusnet.com> wrote in message
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> Attempting to install xp on win98 as clean install (ie dual boot)
>
> Disconnected all periphs (bare notebook)
>
> Using Partition Magic, cleared unpartitioned space (4.5Gig) at end of
> HDD
>
> Ran full scandisk - full surface test.
>
> Setup
>
> Chose NTFS in unpartitioned space - would have preferred fat32 but not
> given the option by setup
>
> All going normally until middle of 'registering components' - '13
> minutes to go - and it stuck - HDD making 'dit dah dit dah dah' over
> and over again, for about ten minutes before I had to turn off the
> power.
>
> The above describes my third attempt, each with the same result,
> although the first two were attempts to install on a fat32 partition
> at the end of my HDD.
>
> I have not yet upgraded drivers for my Tosh Sat Pro 6000 although I
> know there are xp-compatible drivers available on the Tosh web site.
> I didn't start out by installing these as I wasn't clear whether they
> would also work with win98 - all part of this process of not
> committing to XP until I know how it behaves.
>
> Has anyone any helpful ideas?
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