Wow...Toledo X2 4200+ @ 250x11 with stock 1.31 VCore

[Titanion]

I ran 3DMark05 and got 10,694. When 3DMark05 ended I quickly checked my cpu temp, and it was at 31C! I have been running two prime95s for a couple of hours now and am still going, but I am bored and want to play Titan Quest.

The VCore actually reads 1.31 in CPU-Z. I read one post at DFI-Street about this great overclock with a cpu running faster than this at less than stock VCore. Well, I am impressed with this CPU.

I am using stock settings on this FDI motherboard, except for the 250FSB and the 166 4:5 ram setting. This is a Toledo X2 4200+ CPU and two GBs of XMS Corsair PC3200 ram.

Question: when I set the ram to 166 settings, with SPD, does that set the ram to tighter timings then keep them at the 166 rated settings even when the ram is puches up to 200 as it is now?

If this proves to be stable, I will want to tweak a small bit for performance, but 2.75GHz, wow, that feels good. If games are more dependant on GPU these days, is there really any reason to go higher? This just seems like the perfect setting for this new HTT element.

My temps at this 100% load for two hours have stayed around 40C, currently going back and forth between 41 and 42. Mt 90mm cpu fan is running just under 4k. PWMIC is at 39C and Chipset is at 42C.

This system in my sig in the green.

 

[Heyyou27]

Pretty nice overclock for 1.31v if that's correct.

 

[sailer]

Well done! I get only a little bit higher with a water cooled X1900 XTX.

Best I know, and I might be wrong, when the ram is set to 166, the timings in themselves are not any faster. The increased frequency (4:5) only puts them back to where they would have been if they had remained at the stock settings.

 

[vic20]

Wow.

I am currently using a Toledo based 4400+ and need 1.475V to run stable at 2.6 (248x10.5)

Good buy

 

[Titanion]

Prime95 might not be the end all, and 2 or 3 hours is not 24 hours, etc., but I am going to stop it and see if I can play Titan Quest for an hour or so. I am still kind of holding my breath thinking this is too good to be true.

BTW, Sandra07 reports my CPU VCores at 1.31v and 1.18v, respectfully. My CPU temps are at 42c and 39c.

What is pushing my fsb up to 255 going to do to my ram and HTT? Is that a small enough increase to keep me in the ballpark of 1,000? 255x11=2805, and saying I am at 2.8GHz would be cool.

I just ended both Prime95s, and there were no errors for 3 hours 13 minutes. Going to play a bit now.

 

[alphakp295]

u mean 4200+ manchester core no?
toledo at that speed is called 4400+ i believe...
i got 4200+ manchester @ 2.75ghz @ stock V @ 39deg max
it runs rock stable...
good setup in my opinion

 

[Titanion]

No, I think it is a Toledo... check out newegg. For a while they were selling Manchesters then people were posting that it shows up as Toledos. Then newegg changed the name. They might have 512k disabled. Every program I have looked at it with says Toledo.

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[UA_Iron]

excellent news, I just picked one of these up...open box.

We'll see how it performs

 

[sailer]

Prime95 might not be the end all, and 2 or 3 hours is not 24 hours, etc., but I am going to stop it and see if I can play Titan Quest for an hour or so. I am still kind of holding my breath thinking this is too good to be true.

BTW, Sandra07 reports my CPU VCores at 1.31v and 1.18v, respectfully. My CPU temps are at 42c and 39c.

What is pushing my fsb up to 255 going to do to my ram and HTT? Is that a small enough increase to keep me in the ballpark of 1,000? 255x11=2805, and saying I am at 2.8GHz would be cool.

I just ended both Prime95s, and there were no errors for 3 hours 13 minutes. Going to play a bit now.

On my Toledo 4400+ I managed 260x11 for 2.860 but ran into some troubles with my ram. My cpu was reporting 40c and 41c, so it seemed okay. The balancing act with the ram was the downside, even though its high performance stuff. Getting all the timings and voltages right is a pain. So far, my best stable run has been 250x11 for 2.750.

For daily use, I keep it at 240x11 for 2.640. Figure I don't want to burn anything unnecessarily. Wish a FX-60 was cheaper, but, oh well.

 

[Titanion]

I pushed my fsb up to 255 to at least reach 2.8, rebooted, and everything worked fine. I played Titan Quest for an hour, then started up two Prime95s going before I went to bed. I stopped them this morning after 7 1/2 hours of no errors. I then ran 3DMark05 before I got in the shower, and it completed just fine. I gained maybe 80-100 points because of the increase in bus; I wrote it down at home but do not remember it now. This is still with the stock 1.31 VCore. Temps were at about 40c when I stopped Prime95. 3DMark05 hardly does anything to raise temps, so it got to maybe 31c.

 

[sailer]

Sounds like you're doing very well. Amazed that you get by at the stock Vcore. Could be part of the difference in our experience is the motherboard. Don't know. Could just be variances in the cpu's, etc. In the end, its all part of the fun and games of overclocking.

 

[Titanion]

I have read that you are not suppoesed to use half multipliers, i.e., your current 10.5 setting. I forget now why that is supposed to be a problem, but I just learned it and stored it away.

 

[Titanion]

My bad here. I was not setting the affinity correctly with my two versions of Prime95 running at once. A few minutes after I did so, one of my CPUs had a problem at the 1.31 voltage setting.

I went back to 255x10 (2.55 GHz) at stock VCore, 1.31, and that ran all last night... 7 hours, 59 minutes. I shut it down before I came to work today. I rebooted, changed the multiplier to 11x and raised my VCore 4% to 1.36. I then set a Prime95 running on each of the CPU cores. It had not crashed after the first half hour, so I will see what it says when I get home today, but my feeling is that 1.36 will do the job for the second core. I will post whether it ran without errors all day.

I suspect that 1.36 VCore is still very good for 2.8 GHz! If it did not crash, that is.

 

[Titanion]

1.36 ran an instance of Prime95 on each core for 8 hours without errors.

 

[sirheck]

that seems pretty good. i have the 4400 toledo at 2611mhz
havent tried any higher yet. as i would probably have to up the vlts.
i really dont want to do that :?

but to me paying 225 frogskins for a 4400 oc,ed to an fx60
seems cool 8).

 

[sailer]

1.36 ran an instance of Prime95 on each core for 8 hours without errors.

Looks like your doing good. I played with my ram timing a bit today and ran 3Dmark05 for 12098 marks and 3Dmark06 for 6145 marks. I've going to play with the ram some more before I raise the cpu speed again.

Like sirheck wrote, its nice to have a 4400 that performs like a FX60.

 

[sirheck]

Like sirheck wrote, its nice to have a 4400 that performs like a FX60

well the only thing that bugs me is.

1: my 3700@stock2.2 and at 2.6= no difference :?
2: my x24400@2.2 and now at 2.6=still no difference 8O

but i only browse the internet and game.
i only got the x2 for upgradability/future proof.
as they will be exctint and or high priced in the near future

yeah thats! it i blame you guys here at thg for my delima/computer spending. :lol:

 

[sailer]

well the only thing that bugs me is.

1: my 3700@stock2.2 and at 2.6= no difference :?
2: my x24400@2.2 and now at 2.6=still no difference 8O

Part of the problem is that it takes more than just a cpu, especially in things like 3DMark. It takes the very best in graphics cards and the best in ram to get high scores. Like so many things, computers run best when in balance. The fastest cpu in the world won't score high if the graphics card isn't up there. X2 cpu's show up better in 3dMark06 and of course, in business applications that can use both cores. Games will eventually start using both cores, but for now, most use just one core, and for that, a FX57 would be faster, especially when overclocked.

That's right, its us enthusiasts at thg that cause your delimma, but think of all you've learned in the process. And don't think of your dwindling bank accounts.

 

[sirheck]

Part of the problem is that it takes more than just a cpu, especially in things like 3DMark. It takes the very best in graphics cards and the best in ram to get high scores. Like so many things, computers run best when in balance. The fastest cpu in the world won't score high if the graphics card isn't up there. X2 cpu's show up better in 3dMark06 and of course, in business applications that can use both cores. Games will eventually start using both cores, but for now, most use just one core, and for that, a FX57 would be faster, especially when overclocked

yes i agree. i have good memory, psu, sli, but 68gt,s still good cards.
hot though 8O when together. around 100c for one with a/f cooler
and one stock cooler. also an arcticcooling freezer pro (actually2)
for the cpu the fan on one is iffy?

And don't think of your dwindling bank accounts

edit; your sig is same as mine except for the x1900
i also have 4 512 xms in 2t timming (better oc,s with 2 though)