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October 29, 2006 12:22:04 AM

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single SATA drive

im sure seagate will do it first.

when do you think it will be? in 2006? or sometimes in 2007


750gb was released in april 2006

i thought they would have come out with 1tb before end of 06


1TB seems like to much except for super computers i cant even get 50 GB on my computer and im a gamer/media person. but my estimate is may 2007

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October 29, 2006 12:28:43 AM

Well I have no idea when, but I sure could use one :) 

And how about a 500GB raptor...
October 29, 2006 12:32:25 AM

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1TB seems like to much except for super computers i cant even get 50 GB on my computer and im a gamer/media person. but my estimate is may 2007


... remember these words two years from now ;) 
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October 29, 2006 12:39:58 AM

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1TB seems like to much except for super computers i cant even get 50 GB on my computer and im a gamer/media person. but my estimate is may 2007


... remember these words two years from now ;) 

no way next year for sure 2007 the barrier will be broken
October 29, 2006 12:43:02 AM

single SATA drive

im sure seagate will do it first.

when do you think it will be? in 2006? or sometimes in 2007


750gb was released in april 2006

i thought they would have come out with 1tb before end of 06
October 29, 2006 1:26:43 AM

What makes you so sure SG will be first? They aren't the only ones providing network storage. Pretty much the only people who "need" TB storage are pirates and corporations. I have 300 gigs in raid I have barely filled. Not all of us bother to back up our movies. What's the point? We watch new ones. Besides, making 1 TB disks means that we buy fewer disks, and they have to extend warranties. It's right where it should be for now. Once the DVD drive battle settles out, there's going to be conflict with physically mobile data. Why store it on an internal hard drive when I can store it on one I can take with me? But then...that's heavy and big, why not just store it on flash or DVD? I think hard drives will eventually go extinct. Mark my words.
October 29, 2006 1:57:03 AM

ehh they will become flash actually.

do u like music? i have like 20 gigs.

if you want to back up your music/ make your computer your home theater hub you easily can get to a tb.

im sure that if i backed up all my dvds (with the image) and saved my music lossless i could get over a tb.

think of it this way. why have to carry around that disk? i wouldnt have to search throuhgh my dvds to watch a movie, just type in the name

or if youre computer is setup with your house stereo, you can much easier create a playlist for a party then to play cds.

with hd movies just around the corner, its not going to be one tb drive, we're gonna be talking 2 and 3 tb drives.


drive speed has setteled down, but once we start with flash hds, its gonna be sooo fast. i cant wait!
October 29, 2006 2:03:58 AM

I have over a TB with all my drives combined, but only about 1/6th of it filled. If I remember, I have about 8gb's of 192kbps music, WMA. 20gb's will fit on an old 5400rpm HDD. High def movies will be around the corner true, but eventually they may find a way keep us from making copies. The best option for them is to store the movies on servers and allow us to view them from home after paying a premium. Software and OS's could block copying. There will always be hacks as long as there are options. As far as today's storage, I think you're right...more space is needed. But as long as we're close to a TB in a single drive, we can always stack up drives for more space. As long as the average user is using less than 500gb's, I don't see a real push for TB drives. And the average user IS using far less than 500gb's I'd guess. Most people just use IPods to store their music, and videos are going the same way. Flash storage has come a long way, and it's probably the future. I hope you get your TB drive. I already have my TB, I just have to set up my HDD's in RAID when I upgrade to a flash HDD in a couple years.
October 29, 2006 7:33:53 AM

actually i have just heard hitachi are planning to realease one by the end of this year
October 29, 2006 8:23:09 AM

Yep, 30gb. For laptops. I thought it was Samsung though? I don't know. They'll soon be on desktop. Problem is they're not cheap. Yet.
October 29, 2006 9:13:19 AM

Quote:
single SATA drive

im sure seagate will do it first.

when do you think it will be? in 2006? or sometimes in 2007


750gb was released in april 2006

i thought they would have come out with 1tb before end of 06

WOW 1TB, I have been with 40GB for the last year, and I could really use another HDD something like a SEAGATE 200GB but 1tb... thats So much, I would get lost. :p 
October 29, 2006 10:13:39 AM

The 1TB external drives are actually RAID arrays internally tho.

I have over 1.2TB of storage and its stuffed full, so I know its possible!
October 29, 2006 10:15:20 AM

Maybe if you didn't steal so much media and look at so much porn. I doubt you have 1T of actually useful stuff that you access regularly.
October 29, 2006 10:39:33 AM

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Maybe if you didn't steal so much media and look at so much porn. I doubt you have 1T of actually useful stuff that you access regularly.

Who cares how he gets the stuff. If he has a good time then we shouldn't really care.
But wow 1.2TB thats a lot.
October 29, 2006 11:26:48 AM

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Maybe if you didn't steal so much media and look at so much porn. I doubt you have 1T of actually useful stuff that you access regularly.


Under UK law Stealing and Theft are defined as "The Intent to Permenantly deprive the owner of the use of their property".

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The Theft Act 1968 Section1 (1) states that a person is guilty of theft if: he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it.


Piracy is therfore *not* theft as it does not stop the owner from enjoying the use of their property.

In fact, as long as you are not making a profit from it, Piracy in the UK is a Civil offence and NOT a criminal offence.

Calling Piracy theft is as accurate under UK law as calling slander Murder, you Murderer :p 

I only have about 20GiB of porn. I have around 100GiB of music, all legally ripped from CDs I own so that I dont have to rummage around for disks every time I want them. I have around 400GiB of TV shows, and timeshifting TV recordings is not illegal over here. I have about 250GiB of family videos transferred from my digital Camcorder, in original form for editing and burning. My "storage" array is 1.05TB, a 400GB drive, a 250GB drive, and two 200GB drives in a JBOD array. I then have a 250GB drive as my C: drive.

Yeah, I probably could make do with less storage, deleting stuff I dont use often etc. But storage is cheap, why should I go through the hassle of backing stuff up to DVD, then rummaging around DVDs as and when I need them?

I'd welcome a 1TB drive tbh, although I'm planning on replacing the drives in the Storage array with 2*750GB segates pretty soon, and the 1TB drive would be released the next day knowing my luck :/ 
October 29, 2006 12:11:35 PM

It's amazing, 2 years ago I thought people were crazy for putting in 100-200 GB HD. At my office we have 7 years of data and it fits onto a 8 GB DVD. Last year I purchased my first 1TB external. It is over half filled with digital "junk", movies, music, information etc. 1TB drives are just around the corner. By the end of next year I expect most high end systems to ship with 1TB of storage. We digitize everything now and use them a file cabnets. If you look at it that way it is a lot more practical then having the actual data lying around.
October 29, 2006 12:27:08 PM

Dude, I need some TB hdd's 'cos I just can't get anymore drives into my cases :lol: 
October 29, 2006 12:58:49 PM

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Well 1TB external drives have been with us for a while now, although I have yet to see an internal.


http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/category.php?cPath=14_28&osCsid=26a82c5cc54c2e4bc71c413e6e6f2f18


If raid counts then hell there are already and have been multi terrabyte drives around. But i dont think hes talking about raiding. Anyways screw 1 TB i need more like 2TB right now. I have dual 250's and i am having to delete movies mostly because im to lazy to go looking for dvd's i rather have them right there. i have about 400gigs of movies/tv shows right now and maybe 50of music. the rest is over flowing with the games and random programs i have been having to delete and burn to cd's. i could defanitly use another 500gigs at least to acomidate the rest of these movies and to be able to put back what i deleted. 1TB wouldnt leave me much room left if any. 1.5 or 2 TB is what im looking for :o 
October 29, 2006 1:54:27 PM

Quote:
single SATA drive

im sure seagate will do it first.

when do you think it will be? in 2006? or sometimes in 2007


750gb was released in april 2006

i thought they would have come out with 1tb before end of 06


Actually, Hitachi is releasing the first one this winter. Seagate isn't too far behind, if I'm correct they're releasing theirs in like spring '07.
October 29, 2006 1:56:13 PM

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I have 3 gigs I have barely filled.


The computer my girlfriend is using right now has a single 3GB hard drive, and after the Windows install she has about 800MB to play around with. So what are you using on your computer?
October 29, 2006 2:00:00 PM

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1TB seems like to much except for super computers i cant even get 50 GB on my computer and im a gamer/media person. but my estimate is may 2007


Dude, I have an 80gig and a 250 gig. The 80 gig is for apps and stuff and the 250gig is for fansubs. It's full. None of them are lisenced and I watch them like daily. I would LOVE 1TB+ of storage so I wouldn't constantly have to delete files just so I could put more on my hdd.
October 29, 2006 2:01:20 PM

damn even when i had a 386 i found 2 gigs to be to small how the hell are you getting away with 3 gigs? does it only have windows and office on it? hell if all it does is spread sheets and internet thats really all you need so i dunno. not sure if my office would fit on 800megs let alone fit and leave enough over for file paging.
October 29, 2006 2:16:13 PM

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I have 3 gigs I have barely filled.


dude have you installed vista rc1?
it's like 8.5 gig
have fun :lol: 
October 29, 2006 2:25:12 PM

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dude have you installed vista rc1?
it's like 8.5 gig
have fun


Dude... don't remind me. So much space, so much RAM. Too resource intensive.. ahh! Yet, I still like it. 8O
October 29, 2006 2:27:05 PM

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1.5 or 2 TB is what im looking for :o 


Me too if you find any please let me know. :) 

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Rig 2
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October 29, 2006 2:52:50 PM

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dude have you installed vista rc1?
it's like 8.5 gig
have fun


Dude... don't remind me. So much space, so much RAM. Too resource intensive.. ahh! Yet, I still like it. 8O

yeah
installed on a spare hard drive of 10 gig
you had to hear that thing working... 8)
October 29, 2006 3:38:54 PM

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I have 3 gigs I have barely filled.


The computer my girlfriend is using right now has a single 3GB hard drive, and after the Windows install she has about 800MB to play around with. So what are you using on your computer?

I have 3 comps, the oldest is a 3 year old Pentium4. The other two are AMD 64's. I meant to say 320gb's in my Kandalf SLI system, 300 in my raptor raid-0 setup mATX lan system, and more 90gb's just drives, 10 in a 5400 and 80 in a 7200rpm. I have about 150 CD's ripped, and a few movies, maybe a lil porn. I guess I just don't buy (or rent and then illegally burn, screw the U.K.) that many movies. You guys gotta get up off your nerdy little zit faced asses and do something for a change (!!!) instead of trying to find ways to fill up storage space. :-P

I also have a 130mb laptop drive if anyone wants it. I haven't spent $20 on an atapi adapter for my desktop for it, although I did just swap the 80gig out of my gf's old P4 Dell for a 4gb laptop drive. It's so whiney too. 1.5gigs for windows leaves about 2 gigs of storage on that computer. I figure if someone wants more they can buy an external. I'm going to try to sell it as an internet computer. It's pretty fast still, 2.2ghz, 512ram, and I even tossed in a V.92 capable modem! :roll:
October 29, 2006 6:15:11 PM

externals take up space, are ugly, and are to slow. not really good for much aside moving large files or adding a drive to a comp that is full of other devices and there are no more ports to plug one in. You dont really have to look for ways to fill a hard drive it just happens. i didnt even think about it till i got a messege saying i was out of disk space. and i still have another 400gigs downloading :o 
October 29, 2006 7:01:06 PM

i dont understand how you guys get by with less than atleast 500gigs, at the moment i have over 2TB,

desktop has a raid 5 of 4 320 seagates, thats 960GB, it also has a seperate 250GB drive so thats 1.25TB on my desktop, and my two external 250GB.

1.75TB to my desktop alone. and its about 1.5TB full.

about 300GB of tv shows, 45GB of 128Kbps MP3s, my entire DVD collection which is god only knows how much.
October 29, 2006 8:30:51 PM

It's quite simple. I don't steal movies by renting them and then ripping them, and I don't go out and buy a ton of movies either. Nor do I waste my hard earned cash on CD's by coked out musicians. There's a little thing this country has forgotten to do. It's called saving and investing. Not all of us want to work at Walmart when we're 70, live in a trailer home, and beg Uncle Sam for our bread.
October 29, 2006 8:36:22 PM

wish i knew how to rip dvd's :-/ would save me tons of time downloading.
October 29, 2006 9:09:32 PM

You want a little proggie called DVDxCOPY it works like a charm and is so simple my 63 year old mother can use it.
October 29, 2006 9:19:59 PM

I aint seen my uncle in years and his names Sammy, and I don't steal movies by renting and then ripping 'em, I steal them by downloading them same goes for the music. If your gonna start slaging people off the least you can do is get the details right, sheesh :roll:
October 29, 2006 9:21:00 PM

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It's quite simple. I don't steal movies by renting them and then ripping them, and I don't go out and buy a ton of movies either. Nor do I waste my hard earned cash on CD's by coked out musicians. There's a little thing this country has forgotten to do. It's called saving and investing. Not all of us want to work at Walmart when we're 70, live in a trailer home, and beg Uncle Sam for our bread.


i shouldnt but im a bit insulted here, im in my last year at university, work part time, and live in a flat with two others, if thats heading for a life in walmart and a trailer home then you can shove it up your ass.

i save, how do you i think i got the rig i have now? mommy and daddy certaintly didnt buy it for me, i spent the entire summer holidays working 70 hour weeks to save up and pay back my university overdraft, pay for this computer and pay my uni fee's. at the moment i do buy a lot of dvds, i have just over 250 legit DVDs, i download a hell of a lot of tv shows which to my knowledge is not illegal, you tell me the difference between recording the show onto a dvd and putting it on your computer and just downloading the show.


to EnFoRceR22,

i use DVDshrink to copy my DVDs onto my computer allows me to keep just the movie on my computer without the menus and extras, although if you like that stuff you have the option to keep it.
October 29, 2006 11:33:29 PM

thanx for the top and thank you also flakes ill check into those programs :) 
October 30, 2006 12:13:04 AM

I'd say mid 2007. Hopefully sooner rather than later though. My 1.1TB array has roughly 939MB free at the moment. I need large drives so I can hold all the music and movies I have backed up and ready to serve out to computers around the house.
October 30, 2006 8:58:57 AM

Flakes, I love how you got all defensive like a chic. LOL If you don't do anything wrong, you're in college, and you work your butt off, then I obviously wasn't talking about you. I think most of us hate daddy's boys who are for the most part unethical. But then, we're all hypocrites too. And downloading is the same as stealing if they're stolen copies. Which most online media is. Law takes years to catch up to new illegal practices. Look at Enron. You think the same kind of shit hadn't been going on for 50 years already? The Sarbanes-Oxley Act was LONG overdue. Corporations have other ways to extort money from good people, and it'll take more time before it comes to light and laws are passed. If you download media online that should be illegal, you're just copying media someone else stole and are every bit as guilty as they are. It's easy to see one side of things until you're the musician working hard and trying to make a profit. Some of them ARE honest. I don't dignify blowing your earnings on CD's, but I don't dignify stealing someone else's creativity either. If only patents on creativity worked the same for liberal design as it does for mechanical design. I can patent a product, but only "copyright" a song. Both are drummed up out of human ingenuity and hard work, except people put more value on tangible wealth.
October 31, 2006 1:10:05 PM

whats the point in all this space??? from what i noticed?? all you need is a 300gh.. i dont think anyone can use up 1tb in less than 1 month of downloading........

anyway sorry for the rant..
October 31, 2006 1:31:32 PM

Quote:
single SATA drive

im sure seagate will do it first.

when do you think it will be? in 2006? or sometimes in 2007


750gb was released in april 2006

i thought they would have come out with 1tb before end of 06


Err...Terabyte? I'm still using my 8-track. I don't think magnetic spinning disk well going to last longer. I'm sure by 2010ish we'll be using a solid state storage or holographic.
October 31, 2006 1:31:58 PM

If you want big storage, just do a raid array. A couple 500GB drives would probably work out cheaper than a single 1Tb drive when they first come out.

Also You could get better perfomance and/or error recovery than a single drive too depending on how you configure it.
October 31, 2006 1:37:34 PM

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If you want big storage, just do a raid array. A couple 500GB drives would probably work out cheaper than a single 1Tb drive when they first come out.

Also You could get better perfomance and/or error recovery than a single drive too depending on how you configure it.


isnt there double the chance it will fail?
October 31, 2006 2:41:21 PM

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If you want big storage, just do a raid array. A couple 500GB drives would probably work out cheaper than a single 1Tb drive when they first come out.

Also You could get better perfomance and/or error recovery than a single drive too depending on how you configure it.


if im not mistaken both those raid setups eat a drive for those two options. cutting your space in half? dunno not a fan of raid anyways. i would rather just put the drives in the system alone then raid them.
October 31, 2006 2:59:29 PM

I think 1 TB drives would be awesome and much more feasibly with PMR recording. As it would allow a small standalon nas box to have a 3.something TB raid 5 volume. :) 
October 31, 2006 3:18:16 PM

whats your benchmark Icdguy?
October 31, 2006 3:23:41 PM

Once the competition launches a 750GB drive... right now Seagate has no real reason to release a bigger drive as it is the largest drive available. Delaying it also relieve pressure as they still need to switch over manufacturing to perpendicular (currently less than a 1/3 of their capacity is capable of manufacturing such drives).

I'd relaly like ot see larger laptop drives first though ;)  Its pretty easy to stick two or three hard drives in a desktop, but its a pain when your laptop is maxed out.
October 31, 2006 3:27:07 PM

Music Ha I have close to 160GB of just music and that does not include the 400 plus cd's I own, I could use a terabyte drive like no bodys business. For instance alot of the music I listen to, live dj sets, can't be bought anywhere and they average 200MB each I have hundreds and I keep getting more every day. I am always running out of storage space, I have close to 14,000 songs on my pc and I want to rip all my cds but thats another 10,000 or more songs and if ripped at a decent bit rate can easily go over 150 GB's not to mention I to audio mixing and need room for the loops I work with that alone is another 20 GB. No the average user does not need a TB drive most dont need anything bigger than 30 to 50 GB but speaking for the reast of us give us more.
October 31, 2006 3:43:00 PM

I agree there is no reason for manufacturers to "push" 1tb too soon because the average user doesn't need that kind of space.

Having said that, I have a 200gig drive that I struggle to keep hovering at around 180gigs. most of it is games that I do play enough to not want to uninstall, photos of my kids (they're beatiful children so can't have too many), and some video of family and kids although not much.
I also keep around 5-6 movies ripped to HDD that I'm into at any given time.

As for some of the pirating accusations to other posters I'm assuming that was at least 50% in jest. I personally own 100s of DVDs and 100s of VHS that are all original store bought or mail-service purchased copies. One day I'd love to have it all in one place like a media PC and store all the disks/tapes somewhere out of the way.

I regularly make attempts to trim the fat out of my drive but seldom get it below 120gigs minimum and then its not long before it goes up to 180+ again. I guess if the space is there I'll use it, shrug.

To each their own but the faster 1tb drives hit the faster current 500-750gig drive prices will fall and I'll likely buy 2 or more so I don't have to police my space usage quite so diligently. I'd love to get even more into video editing my home movies but its a chore making space all the time.

Moral of that story is some of us really could use the space, and for legitimate reasons. :) 
October 31, 2006 6:12:16 PM

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I have close to 14,000 songs on my pc and I want to rip all my cds but thats another 10,000 or more songs


Wow, and I thought I had a halfway decent collection with about 6,000 - 7,000 songs. That's even more amazing when you consider that it would take about 1200 hours or 50 entire days to listen to all 24,000 tracks if the average song is 3 minutes (of course the average song probably is a bit longer).
Taking this into account, along with the amount of time it'd take to watch the rest of a TB's worth of even uncompressed video, and I have a hard time imagining having the time to ever enjoy it all.
I know I'm not alone on that, and it's likely the reason that 750GB has been the largest there is for awhile now. There's just no real need yet.
October 31, 2006 6:49:28 PM

i collect boxing fights, thats why i need the space.
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