Question?

[physco827]

Would you buy a x1950pro for 179.99
or if you had the opportunity buy a x1950xtx for 299.40?

Don't ask how I can get it for that price..... 8)

i am also planning to upgrade to dx10 later next year, if that can be thrown in the equation....

 

[Track]

A few pointers:

1. The X1950 Pro is the ONLY card u can buy right now that is better than ur 7800 GS, if u arent buying a new motherboard (because its for AGP).

2. The X1950XTX is a scam like always (remmember, stay away from XTX). What u want is of course, the X1950XT wich is to be released soon. They launched the X1950XTX first inorder to make all the noobs buy it, but we know that XTX is bad.

3. If u have a 7800 GS dont u think u should wait for DX10 wich will come out next week???

4. You will need a new PC for a new graphisc card - CPU, motherboard, Memory etc. You know this right?

 

[Mousemonkey]

No, save your money and put it towards a new rig with Pci-e for the now/next gen cards. AGP is just about dead, R.I.P A.G.P you served us well.

 

[physco827]

of course I know that track.

What im thinking about doing is in a few months, for vista, upgrade 3 things in my machine. 939 mobo, 3700+, and a new graphics card. The reason why i am looking to do that is because:

#1 the price is right, only about 350 for all 3

#2 i want to upgrade again and go all out before i go off to college next year

#3 it seems like this is a good idea for a temporary solution and should run games comfortably till I get vista and start with dx10.

 

[Track]

Alright, thats a good idea. I will get everything new before college next year aswell.


One VERY important thing:

Do not buy anything but a Core 2 Duo. Not even the FX-62 wich costs 900$ cant rival the E6300, wich costs 125$. And with a 20$ fan, u can have X6800 performance. So obviously ur going to need a 775 motherboard, and not a 939, wich is a waste of money now because they arent making new CPUs for it anymore.. its like buying 478, understand?

The X1950 Pro is nice, but the X1900XT/X1950XT are the best cards u can get, or the 7900 GTO of course.

 

[physco827]

Im trying to find a x1900xt in stock somewhere, or ill get the x1950pro pci-e. The reason im going with a 939 (and i did know all about that core 2 upgrade) is because its not expensive, a E6300 like you said is about $125, ill just upgrade to whatever is the best at the time next year. Just trying to save a little bit of money by going with the inexpensive, but good performing, 939.

 

[Guest]

If your going AMD, then get a AM2 board, they are the new, and will be compatable with AMD quad cores.

Also, the lowest price for E6300 is $180, unless you buy wholesale I guess.

If you go AMD AM2, then get the Orleans type, or X2. Dont get the Semprons. Im going to get the 3500+, then OC.

 

[physco827]

im not going am2 because, like i said, i want to save some money. So I don't want to have to buy new ram also. I think what i have going is a pretty good plan to save money and still have a good system fo the time.

 

[Mousemonkey]

If you're gonna get a 939 may I suggest you try and find a 3800x2 Manchester, the smallest and cheapest of the x2's which can be OC'd to 2.7Ghz which is more than the FX-60, and then you can be all smug and tell your friends that you've got a 'faster' CPU than the FX-60 for a quarter the price or less.

 

[Track]

NO 939!

775 Core 2 Duo is the ONLY way to go. I'm not an Intel fanboy, and i would gladly admit that the 64 X2 series was better, if it was.

Core 2 Duo was launched 3 months ago and gives u the same performance for less than 1/2 the cost. Its the only way to go.. not to mention that it overclocks like CRAZY.


About the X1900XT. I say wait for DX10 wich is being released next week.

 

[bigsby]

NO 939!

775 Core 2 Duo is the ONLY way to go. I'm not an Intel fanboy, and i would gladly admit that the 64 X2 series was better, if it was.

Core 2 Duo was launched 3 months ago and gives u the same performance for less than 1/2 the cost. Its the only way to go.. not to mention that it overclocks like CRAZY.


About the X1900XT. I say wait for DX10 wich is being released next week.

he said no, so no.

I'd just like to say that if you're going to get a new rig with an x1900 and whatnot, you might as well upgrade your ram anyways. 939 systems run on ddr400 pc3200 ram, as opposed to pc2700. Also, games these days are liking 2 gigs of ram very muchso, so it might be a good idea to get 2 gigs of new stuff instead of saving your old ram.

 

[Mousemonkey]

less than 1/2 the cost.

I think you need to work on your maths my friend.

http://www.itcomputer.co.uk/product.php?ID=02456

3800x2 £115.00

http://www.itcomputer.co.uk/product.php?ID=03783

939 mobo 45.00

£160 total

http://www.itcomputer.co.uk/product.php?ID=03535

E6300 £139.00

http://www.itcomputer.co.uk/product.php?ID=03704

Intel mobo £69.00

http://www.itcomputer.co.uk/product.php?ID=01951

DDR2 533 1GB £95.00

total £303

back in the dark ages when I was at school 303 was a bigger number than 160, how you make it less than half I would really like to know

 

[Mousemonkey]

I have to say you are wrong mate, a 939 mobo can run DDR333 which is PC2700, you might want to check some specs before making such statements.

 

[physco827]

I agree with monkey, but i think my upgrade options are a good idea. Also i think its going to be the x1950pro ne ways.

Trying to stay around 350 with mobo, cpu, and gpu....

 

[Mousemonkey]

Rock on dude, I hope it works out for you, let me know how you get on. 8)

 

[enforcer22]

since your board only supports agp why would you get a 1950xtx? Im going by your sig of course. not sure why xtx is bad i have a 1900xtx works damn good. the only reason i see that making any sense is not every game engine supports over 256 megs of ram however the more populer newer games do. Its far from a bad card its surly not a scam im not sure where that came from. the 1950xtx has much higher memory bandwidth course for people who play in crappy 1600x1200 and lower resoultions probly wont benafit from that right now. running 333mhz ram though give a what 5 to 10% praformance loss? async operation.

 

[Track]

The fact that 939 motherboards are cheap and have old RAM is NOT a good thing.

I need to work on my math? 140$ for an E6300 wich with a good cooler can become almost as good as the X6800. The 3800 X2 dosent even come close! And im pretty sure they make 64 X2 CPUs for AM2..

775/AM2 offer the only real upgrade point, but the FX-62 wich is the best CPU for AM2 cannot even beat the E6300, wich costs more than 3 times less.


Well, u have ur choices, now its ur turn.