Most Powerful Pocket PC

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"Best" is very difficult to answer as there are many devices out there
fitting a variety of needs. I suggest going to the Pocket PC Magazine's
Buyers Guide (http://www.pocketpcmag.com/bg04/ppcs.asp) do a comparision of
the devices and see which one fits your needs best.

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<del@here.com> wrote in message
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> What is the best Pocket PC at the moment? I was looking at the Axim x50
> series as they seem to have a faster processor

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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:47:19 GMT, del@here.com wrote:

>What is the best Pocket PC at the moment? I was looking at the Axim x50
>series as they seem to have a faster processor

At the present time, the iPAQ 4700 and Dell Axium x50 hold the top 2
positions for speed. I own the 4700 and it's remarkably fast.

A_C

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A condition for "best" with me is telephone integration. I don't want to
carry a PPC and a phone. The Samsung i700 works nicely for me.

<del@here.com> wrote in message
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> What is the best Pocket PC at the moment? I was looking at the Axim x50
> series as they seem to have a faster processor

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IMO the top contendors at the high-end are these 3 units (in no particular
order)

HP iPAQ hx4700 / 4705
Asus MyPal A730W
Dell Axim x50v

And among them the choice isn't necessarily logical or easy to make... I was
able to narrow it down to 2 of them, and from there it took me the better
part of 3 days before I could make up my mind. It's min/maxer torture.

<del@here.com> wrote in message
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> What is the best Pocket PC at the moment? I was looking at the Axim x50
> series as they seem to have a faster processor

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How is the Dell Axim X50 faster than the Dell Axim X30? It was my
understanding that the only differences were that the X50 had a larger
screen (eats more batteries), has a CF slot (wish my X30 had that) and has a
more updated/modern design. They both have the same processor.


"Agent_C" <Agent-C-hates-spam@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:47:19 GMT, del@here.com wrote:
>
>>What is the best Pocket PC at the moment? I was looking at the Axim x50
>>series as they seem to have a faster processor
>
> At the present time, the iPAQ 4700 and Dell Axium x50 hold the top 2
> positions for speed. I own the 4700 and it's remarkably fast.
>
> A_C
>
>

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And again...It all depends on how you're planning on using your PPC. Get
a sheet of paper and write out what you're going to be using it for.
Then get another sheet of paper and write out what you want. The best
PPC will be the only that gives you what you want and lets you do what
you want to.

David H

del@here.com wrote:
> What is the best Pocket PC at the moment? I was looking at the Axim x50
> series as they seem to have a faster processor

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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:47:19 GMT, del@here.com wrote:

>What is the best Pocket PC at the moment? I was looking at the Axim x50
>series as they seem to have a faster processor
The one that fits your needs. First decide what you want the device
to do.

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IMHO
You know, powerful processor for pocket computer make no sense.
If it will do all you want as POCKET computer it's enough.
More powerful processor will eat more power and so will work less.
How will you feel if it turns off when it's needed most of all?
As i know only Asus has system of smart proccesor using. Other, will you
read book or watch video, will work the same time. So think about time, not
power.

<del@here.com> wrote in message
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> What is the best Pocket PC at the moment? I was looking at the Axim x50
> series as they seem to have a faster processor

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I have a Ipaq 2210 and it is not powerful enough for the things I use
(streaming of video files across my network)

TomTom Runs too slow

as do many other applications.

I dont need time I need speed.

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The x50 series also has power management of the processor. It will
throttle down when full power is not needed. The biggest battery drain
comes from the screen, not from the processor.

Bobby

"Amirov Zakhar" <amirov@tric.ru> wrote in message
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> IMHO
> You know, powerful processor for pocket computer make no sense.
> If it will do all you want as POCKET computer it's enough.
> More powerful processor will eat more power and so will work less.
> How will you feel if it turns off when it's needed most of all?
> As i know only Asus has system of smart proccesor using. Other, will you
> read book or watch video, will work the same time. So think about time,
> not
> power.
>
> <del@here.com> wrote in message
> news:420cc577$0$3350$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> What is the best Pocket PC at the moment? I was looking at the Axim x50
>> series as they seem to have a faster processor
>
>

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<del@here.com> wrote in message
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>I have a Ipaq 2210 and it is not powerful enough for the things I use
> (streaming of video files across my network)
>
> TomTom Runs too slow
>
> as do many other applications.
>
> I dont need time I need speed.

What are the mechanics of the videos you are streaming? Do you know the
bitrate, size, type, etc? I have even streamed video on older units (3835
with sled and pcmcia card), and gotten it to work quite acceptably. The
newer units definitely more so.

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Is nt 2210 has 400Mhz processor?
My Asus716 has too. Using WiFi i played 400Kbit video stream, all is fine.
I copied usual avi of 480x640x23 800Mbit to flash card and it worked fine
too.
Maybe problem is not a power of processor but network bandwidth?

By the way, not all depends on processor. For example, I compared some my
friend's Toshiba 300Mhz and my switched to 300Mhz. My is 2 times faster!!
Many things depends on RAM speed and video subsystem.

<del@here.com> wrote in message
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> I have a Ipaq 2210 and it is not powerful enough for the things I use
> (streaming of video files across my network)
>
> TomTom Runs too slow
>
> as do many other applications.
>
> I dont need time I need speed.

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It looks like Ill get the Dell one. they are much cheaper than Asus or HP (I
hate HP) plus Dell are throwing in free stuff like a CF TV Tuner!! how cool
is that.

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When comparing these you need to talk about the X50v and X30 high, both with
624Mhz processors. The X50v has a dedicated graphics processor that
theoretically makes it perform better when discussing video playback. I
would have to say I agree with that assessment, however I don't feel that
the video coprocessor has added much to normal performance. Unfortunately
the addition of VGA tasks the processor more, so you get a trade off. If you
are comfortable with the QVGA screen of your X30, but covet the CF slot, I
think an X50 520MHz machine would suit you nicely. I don't think you will
see any performance degredation in everyday use.

--
Sven, MS-MVP Mobile Devices
"Jeff Daly" <jeff at dalydose dot com> wrote in message
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> How is the Dell Axim X50 faster than the Dell Axim X30? It was my
> understanding that the only differences were that the X50 had a larger
> screen (eats more batteries), has a CF slot (wish my X30 had that) and has
a
> more updated/modern design. They both have the same processor.
>
>
> "Agent_C" <Agent-C-hates-spam@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:9ikp0152vg0sntvfj4dfm97su34qi5n6bi@4ax.com...
> > On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:47:19 GMT, del@here.com wrote:
> >
> >>What is the best Pocket PC at the moment? I was looking at the Axim x50
> >>series as they seem to have a faster processor
> >
> > At the present time, the iPAQ 4700 and Dell Axium x50 hold the top 2
> > positions for speed. I own the 4700 and it's remarkably fast.
> >
> > A_C
> >
> >
>
>

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del@here.com wrote in microsoft.public.pocketpc:

> (I hate HP)

That is a good criterium to choose the "best" and the "most
powerful" Pocket PC.



--
CeeBee


"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."

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Yeah I hate em as I bought a BRAND NEW Ipaq 2210. 2 weeks later MS announced
Pocket 2003 SE,

"oh good" I thought I'll get the upgrade from HP.

HP said, "sorry we are not supporting 2003SE on the 2210!

"Ah but" I said, "I have just bought my 2210, its BRAND NEW",

HP said "sorry, you looser. We dont care - go buy another IPAQ and we might
consider supporting you" (or words to that effect)

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del@here.com wrote in microsoft.public.pocketpc:

> Yeah I hate em as I bought a BRAND NEW Ipaq 2210. 2 weeks later
> MS announced Pocket 2003 SE,
>
> "oh good" I thought I'll get the upgrade from HP.
>
> HP said, "sorry we are not supporting 2003SE on the 2210!
>
> "Ah but" I said, "I have just bought my 2210, its BRAND NEW",
>
> HP said "sorry, you looser. We dont care - go buy another IPAQ
> and we might consider supporting you" (or words to that effect)


Well, to be honest, this isn't very special. And especially given
the life cycle of computers and other electronical gadgets. It
happens all the time, and with all sorts of consumer products.

Today you buy a wireless router with WEP and next day they come up
with WPA, and you can't upgrade.
Today you buy a car with four airbags, next day the restyled model
has 8 airbags and lightweight alloy wheels standard, and it costs
you a fortune to change wheels, and you can't even install the
four other airbags in you brand new, one day old car.

It not only happens with specifications, it also happens with
prices. One day you buy it brandnew, next day they slash prices to
brandnew lows.

You must hate a lot of companies.

--
CeeBee


"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."

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Err no, that is a stupid assumption isn't it? A pocket PC is not a car or a
wireless router, it is a computer, just like you purchase a PC there is some
form of upgradability (more memory, bigger hard drive, better graphics card,
faster processor etc. I bought this PCC with the understanding that it would
be upgradeable to the latest operating system, of which it is not. If I buy
an item and suddenly the next day it changes dramatically (price drop or new
features) then I would take the item back to the shop and demand a refund.
Failing that I would purposely break the item and say it was not fit for the
purpose it was sold and demand my money back, pretty simple.

I have bought a BRAND new item, I don't expect software/hardware support for
it to be dropped the day I buy it. Most other PDA suppliers manage to
support their customers with upgrades and the like. If a company does do
that to me then yes I do hate them, along with 1000's of other people. HP
are in the Microsoft ilk. They don't care about the end user, they just care
about bulk shifting and making vast amounts of money, which in the end will
backfire. Its the end user who has to put up with all the problems of poorly
supported items, lack of concern from the parent company who think they can
fob off us end users as they are of little concern.

I have read the HP forum on HP's web site. It has hundreds of people
complaining about the 2200 series not being supported anymore, they demand a
response by HP but HP refuses to give any decent answer. If that is not a
total disregard for their customers then I don't know what is?

Angry? yes I am angry and I certainly will not be buying anymore of HP's
equipment.

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But again, I come back to the simple statement/question:

Will the release of new version of WindowsCE make your PPC STOP
functioning? NO, NO, NO. Would it be NICE if you could upgrade? Yes. Is
the upgrade REQUIRED for the PPC to continue working? NO

For the record, I bough a HP2210 last November and YES I'm quite happy
with it. I DO NOT in the least bit expect to NEED to replace it for at
least a year - more like two years. Should HP continue support? If I
were them, I would simply because of the user base that's out there and
not wanting to piss them off (which obviously HP is doing). If I
manufactured a PPC, I would have no problem selling them until every
last one of them is gone, provided that I continued support for them for
about 1 year afterward AND that I communicated that to the purchasers.

Is that double-speak? Not exactly. I have no control over what HP does,
its strategy or actions. I can only decide how I'm going to respond and
the factors that I'm going to take into account when making a decision.
When I buy my next PPC, BTW, I will be inquiring as to when the
make/model was first released to try & get a feel as to how long its
going to be around. Until then, as I said I'm quite happy with my HP2210.

David H

P.S. And YES as some of you have noted, I view the PPC as somewhat
disposable and that a 2 year life span is quite resonable. At $350
total, it works out to be $15 a month which is something that I can
afford. (I can even afford the $30/month for a 1 year lifespan).

del@here.com wrote:
> Err no, that is a stupid assumption isn't it? A pocket PC is not a car or a
> wireless router, it is a computer, just like you purchase a PC there is some
> form of upgradability (more memory, bigger hard drive, better graphics card,
> faster processor etc. I bought this PCC with the understanding that it would
> be upgradeable to the latest operating system, of which it is not. If I buy
> an item and suddenly the next day it changes dramatically (price drop or new
> features) then I would take the item back to the shop and demand a refund.
> Failing that I would purposely break the item and say it was not fit for the
> purpose it was sold and demand my money back, pretty simple.
>
> I have bought a BRAND new item, I don't expect software/hardware support for
> it to be dropped the day I buy it. Most other PDA suppliers manage to
> support their customers with upgrades and the like. If a company does do
> that to me then yes I do hate them, along with 1000's of other people. HP
> are in the Microsoft ilk. They don't care about the end user, they just care
> about bulk shifting and making vast amounts of money, which in the end will
> backfire. Its the end user who has to put up with all the problems of poorly
> supported items, lack of concern from the parent company who think they can
> fob off us end users as they are of little concern.
>
> I have read the HP forum on HP's web site. It has hundreds of people
> complaining about the 2200 series not being supported anymore, they demand a
> response by HP but HP refuses to give any decent answer. If that is not a
> total disregard for their customers then I don't know what is?
>
> Angry? yes I am angry and I certainly will not be buying anymore of HP's
> equipment.

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Where did you buy it from? Many stores have a 30 day return policy, or, if
not, a 30 day exchange policy. If so, exercise that.

I got Dell to let me upgrade from their X30 to the newest X50v even though I
was past their 21 day return policy. It just took a little extra
groveling...

<del@here.com> wrote in message
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> Yeah I hate em as I bought a BRAND NEW Ipaq 2210. 2 weeks later MS
> announced
> Pocket 2003 SE,
>
> "oh good" I thought I'll get the upgrade from HP.
>
> HP said, "sorry we are not supporting 2003SE on the 2210!
>
> "Ah but" I said, "I have just bought my 2210, its BRAND NEW",
>
> HP said "sorry, you looser. We dont care - go buy another IPAQ and we
> might
> consider supporting you" (or words to that effect)

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del@here.com wrote in microsoft.public.pocketpc:

> Err no, that is a stupid assumption isn't it? A pocket PC is not
> a car or a wireless router, it is a computer, just like you
> purchase a PC there is some form of upgradability (more memory,
> bigger hard drive, better graphics card, faster processor etc. I
> bought this PCC with the understanding that it would be
> upgradeable to the latest operating system, of which it is not.
> If I buy an item and suddenly the next day it changes
> dramatically (price drop or new features) then I would take the
> item back to the shop and demand a refund. Failing that I would
> purposely break the item and say it was not fit for the purpose
> it was sold and demand my money back, pretty simple.


No, it isn't a "stupid assumption". It happen to cars or wireless
routers as well. It does every day.
In reality it's your attitude problem.

Today you buy a new car and tomorrow a new model will be
announced, and your model will drop sharply in price. You
certainly can't upgrade by "demanding" it, or demanding a refund.
You still have a functioning car you agreed to buy.
And if you bought that car and you want an airco that wasn't
standard but now is on newer models, or bigger tires, it might not
be possible to "upgrade", and if so, you certainly won't get it
for free.

If you buy a 54g router and tomorrow they introduce a 100MBit
model for the same price, and drop the 54g price or model, you're
simply out of luck. You still have a perfectly working 54g router.

What you really are stating is not "I hate HP" but "I demand the
eternal right to always be supplied with the latest and newest and
expect the producer or retailer to give it to me at no extra
cost".
You must hate a lot of companies.

Not to mention breaking a perfectly working device to get a
refund. That is simply pathetic antisocial behaviour from spoilt
people who demand everything for nothing. A generation assuming
that decency is stupidity, and a sales contract is less worth than
the paper written on it. And letting other consumers pay for their
antisocial behaviour.


--
CeeBee


"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."

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I agree.

David H
(And FYI, when the 2005 Mustangs came out, the '69 Mustangs STILL kept
running.)

CeeBee wrote:
> del@here.com wrote in microsoft.public.pocketpc:
>
>
>>Err no, that is a stupid assumption isn't it? A pocket PC is not
>>a car or a wireless router, it is a computer, just like you
>>purchase a PC there is some form of upgradability (more memory,
>>bigger hard drive, better graphics card, faster processor etc. I
>>bought this PCC with the understanding that it would be
>>upgradeable to the latest operating system, of which it is not.
>>If I buy an item and suddenly the next day it changes
>>dramatically (price drop or new features) then I would take the
>>item back to the shop and demand a refund. Failing that I would
>>purposely break the item and say it was not fit for the purpose
>>it was sold and demand my money back, pretty simple.
>
>
>
> No, it isn't a "stupid assumption". It happen to cars or wireless
> routers as well. It does every day.
> In reality it's your attitude problem.
>
> Today you buy a new car and tomorrow a new model will be
> announced, and your model will drop sharply in price. You
> certainly can't upgrade by "demanding" it, or demanding a refund.
> You still have a functioning car you agreed to buy.
> And if you bought that car and you want an airco that wasn't
> standard but now is on newer models, or bigger tires, it might not
> be possible to "upgrade", and if so, you certainly won't get it
> for free.
>
> If you buy a 54g router and tomorrow they introduce a 100MBit
> model for the same price, and drop the 54g price or model, you're
> simply out of luck. You still have a perfectly working 54g router.
>
> What you really are stating is not "I hate HP" but "I demand the
> eternal right to always be supplied with the latest and newest and
> expect the producer or retailer to give it to me at no extra
> cost".
> You must hate a lot of companies.
>
> Not to mention breaking a perfectly working device to get a
> refund. That is simply pathetic antisocial behaviour from spoilt
> people who demand everything for nothing. A generation assuming
> that decency is stupidity, and a sales contract is less worth than
> the paper written on it. And letting other consumers pay for their
> antisocial behaviour.
>
>